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freshpots
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Hello, 

I've tried my best to research this topic but I suppose since the 16" MBP is so new, that there's not too much information about it. I was hoping to buy a eGPU, either a 2080 or 2080Ti, and have been reading through this thread: https://egpu.io/forums/builds/2019-16-macbook-pro-rp500m-9th8ch-rtx-2080-fe-32gbps-tb3-razer-core-x-chroma-win-10-1909-radeon-vii-32gbps-tb3-razer-core-v2-macos-10-15-1/

According to these users, with the latest 1909 Win 10 build, using an nVidia GPU on the new 16" MacBook Pro with the 5500m/i9 config seems relatively plug and play? Connect eGPU via TB3, connect external display via DP/HDMI to eGPU enclosure, remove current AMD drivers via DDU (courtesy of bootcampdrivers.com), install the latest nVidia drivers for the respective card you have, and it should work?

I have a 2019 16" MBP, 5500M 8GB, i9 9980HK, 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD if it makes a difference. Is there a particular enclosure that's needed for this machine? Does it matter between a 2080 FE/Super or 2080Ti?

Sorry if this has been discussed. New to this forum and tried my best to research beforehand. Found a lot of issues with the 15" version, but so far I'm seeing that the 16" might be much more straightforward. 

 

 

2019 16" MacBook Pro | i9 2.4 | 5500M 8GB | 32GB | 2TB |


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TheJizel
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You shouldn't even need to uninstall AMD drivers. That is only an issue when using an AMD card for the eGPU.

The only other potential problem I could think of is the pci.sys thing.

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My RTX 2080 + Razer Core X Chroma were plug and play.  Only hitch is bluetooth usually (but not always) stops working after I plug in the egpu, it takes longer than my previous laptops (2016 15" and 2018 13")  to initialize the egpu, and you can't boot with an RTX card plugged in or the Macbook will hang on the boot screen.

2019 16 Macbook Pro + Core v2 + Radeon VII MacOS 10.15.1
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Posted by: @thejizel

You shouldn't even need to uninstall AMD drivers. That is only an issue when using an AMD card for the eGPU.

The only other potential problem I could think of is the pci.sys thing.

Oh? That's good to know. Right now I have the AMD drivers installed from bootcampdrivers.com, and it's been pretty good all things considered. I'll just download the nVidia drivers and install them without uninstalling the AMD drivers and see how that goes

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Posted by: @ningauble77

My RTX 2080 + Razer Core X Chroma were plug and play.  Only hitch is bluetooth usually (but not always) stops working after I plug in the egpu, it takes longer than my previous laptops (2016 15" and 2018 13")  to initialize the egpu, and you can't boot with an RTX card plugged in or the Macbook will hang on the boot screen.

That's great to know. I'm hoping the 2080Ti is plug and play as well.. As for booting, I don't think it would be too much of an issue. The eGPU will permanently be on my TV stand, next to a stand for the MBP.. Will just be plugging in via TB3 for games, that's pretty much all I'm using it for. Super happy to know that I can just plug it in and install the drivers and have it work. I know that if the external display is set as primary, I don't need to change any graphics settings, but on the built in display I have to change the graphics properties for each application. Is this still true?

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Booted into Windows this morning, login screen popped up, I hit enter, screen froze, fans went from 0 to 100% for about half a second, BSOD. 

"Page Fault in non paged Area" was the error. Will not boot, I even went into safe mode and removed the Adrenalin drivers for my 5500M (Bootcampdrivers.com) and it still won't boot. This has nothing to do with eGPUs but, does anyone have a clue? Really don't want to re-install windows and applications if I don't have to.. 

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@freshpots

download drivers from here: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/apple-boot-camp

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Bump - just ordered a Razer Core X Chroma with an ASUS ROG 2080Ti, should arrive tomorrow. I'm going to simply install the NVidia drivers, then hot-plug the GPU enclosure to my laptop while it's connected to my TV via HDMI. I'm hoping that's all I need to do.

One thing to take note, correct me if I'm wrong, is to never try and boot the computer up while the eGPU is plugged in. I wanted to ask if this kind of set up makes sense:

I use Mac OS mainly for photo and video editing. In our office upstairs I have a HDD/TB3 Dock combo that has all my peripherals, speakers, monitor etc. Laptop is up here most of the time, but I want to keep the eGPU+2080ti in our TV stand. I was hoping to just keep it connected to the TV permanently. If I want to play some games, I can just boot into Windows, hot plug the GPU and I'm good right? Would I have any issues booting into Windows while Nvidia drivers are installed, when the 2080 isn't connected?

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at any rate keep us posted, this look like a powerfull combo, I'm struggling with my MBP16 setup and I begin to think my razer core X is faulty, so razer X chroma might be my next step:(

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Posted by: @deanorth

at any rate keep us posted, this look like a powerfull combo, I'm struggling with my MBP16 setup and I begin to think my razer core X is faulty, so razer X chroma might be my next step:(

Yeah I'll definitely keep this updated, super excited to have a "docking station" for better gaming on the TV. 

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When you have your rig installed, could you check in Win10, with HWinfo64, what is the status of your PCI express line where the Razer Chroma is connected? Mine says max bandwith is 8 GT/s, which should be enough to run anything, but still curious to compare:)

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One thing to take note, correct me if I'm wrong, is to never try and boot the computer up while the eGPU is plugged in. I wanted to ask if this kind of set up makes sense:

Not necessarily. It does no damage to try to boot in different ways. I have a GTX 1070 on a 2018 MBP and it's very much plug and play. I've never had to mess with a single community solution. It just worked the second I plugged it in. Sometimes it doesn't like it when I try to start with it plugged in so I'll plug it in at the login screen. But it doesn't hurt anything to try.

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Posted by: @tsh3721

One thing to take note, correct me if I'm wrong, is to never try and boot the computer up while the eGPU is plugged in. I wanted to ask if this kind of set up makes sense:

Not necessarily. It does no damage to try to boot in different ways. I have a GTX 1070 on a 2018 MBP and it's very much plug and play. I've never had to mess with a single community solution. It just worked the second I plugged it in. Sometimes it doesn't like it when I try to start with it plugged in so I'll plug it in at the login screen. But it doesn't hurt anything to try.

Good to know, I’m hoping I have the same experience. The Core X Chroma literally just showed up at my door, and I’m just doing a fresh install of bootcamp after resetting the NVRAM and SCM in Mac OS. I’m just going to try and install the NVIDIA drivers straight from g-force experience and not bother uninstalling any default bootcamp drivers and see if that works. I don’t want to have to run DDU if I don’t need to

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Posted by: @deanorth

When you have your rig installed, could you check in Win10, with HWinfo64, what is the status of your PCI express line where the Razer Chroma is connected? Mine says max bandwith is 8 GT/s, which should be enough to run anything, but still curious to compare:)

What's this for? Are you concerned about the performance hit that you're taking by using an eGPU vs a desktop setup?

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@freshpots

I was just curious if you had the same reading as I am.

Frankly I'm going nuts, I have tried everything, old drivers, regsitry edit etc etc. My 1080ti produce driver crash with heavy gaming at 1440P 🙁 I'm going to move to a Radeon I think, seems simplier.

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Well I got that stupid BSOD again and Windows repaired my computer back to factory settings. Starting to just give up on this, there has to be something physically wrong with my laptop.

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@freshpots

Any update with your setup ? I have a 16" MBP as well as a 1080 Ti (in my gaming rig) and I'm seriously considering just selling my gaming rig and popping the 1080 Ti into an eGPU enclosure and running everything off of my MBP.

16” MBP: 2.6 GHz i7 || 16GB RAM ||| 5500M 4GB || 512 GB SSD


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@sam_durston

Don't do it if you already have a PC set up, you lose a good amount of performance with the enclosures. My 2080Ti ran pretty good with the MacBook (until it just shit the bed on me for the 3rd time and I gave up and returned everything), but the 2080Ti in our old PC with a 4th gen i5 ran so much better. Could play AAA titles in 4k no problem. 1080 and 1440 caused the CPU to bottleneck performance - understandably.

Don't sell your rig especially if you bought it new. Custom built PCs depreciate so fast and it's financially moronic to do anything but keep it for as long as humanly possible.

My next course of action is probably to keep our old PC as a dedicated gaming computer and put a 5700XT into the enclosure. This way I can use the enclosure for Mac whenever we edit videos, and the occasional time I'd like to game on the PC I can just swap the 5700 out into the desktop.. 

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@freshpots

Thanks for the info. On your advice I am going to stay with my gaming desktop + MBP. My current PC is a 3600X with the 1080 Ti so it runs games beautifully. My dream is the single laptop + eGPU solution, but reading your experiences it seems like that isn't ready for prime time yet.

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Yeah man that sounds like the way to go if you really enjoy your PC games, which by the sounds of your hardware I would assume you do. I would say the MBP+eGPU solution is basically ready for the casual gamer. But if you're like me and you really want to utilize your hardware to the fullest potential, you're gonna want to stick to the PC. 

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