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MBP 2019 16" 5500M + Blackmagic eGPU Pro + LG5K in Bootcamp:
How I got 2019 16" MBP and BMD eGPU Pro and LG Ultrafine 5k working with one TB3 cable in bootcamp by ktek#2994 @ Discord

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Ok, so quick summary as it seems I haven't found time for proper tutorial.

Windows OS build 18362.30, anything above resulted in error 12.

Install with bootcamp assistant, install macOS support package / drivers, download DDU, restart in safe mode (shift click restart in windows menu), remove drivers and disable windows automatic driver search.

Download latest bootcampdrivers red edition (gaming?), not the one recommended for 16" MBP (blue ones).

On macOS side I ran the BM eGPU update tool but that did nothing. Only when OS itself put up notification "there's update for your egpu" it fixed the TB3 windows side for 5k / TB3 connection. You can dismiss the notification or click restart instantly, I dismissed first two times and it took some time to reapper, maybe even couple of boots.

I found no info how to force update check on macOS for BMD eGPU, it just happened randomly.

Before the macOS pinged BMD update moshi cable worked (DP from egpu to USB-C to LG5K) but with only 4k res. Now I can just use one TB3 cable from eGPU to LG5K with full functionality of usb hub, camera and everything, even on Windows.

Other than that it's plug and play atm, everything works beautifully. I can just boot into whatever whenever without any trouble. Windows loading screen takes some time and can stay black, but eventually it lets you log in. Having other monitor not attached to eGPU helps, or if if you keep your Pro open I guess that works too. I run clamshell mode.

Had couple driver BSODs yesterday, but that might be not related as I run SLOBS and loads of other USB devices with sketchy drivers.

But hey, now it works and and I'm happy camper

Remember to disable windows automatic updates from registry and make several restore points and backups when you get your setup working

I have one usb c monitor connected too, R5500M seems to drive that, but that's not really an issue

dGPU still gets hot but does not affect gaming as it doesn't really matter if it downclocks itself. And it might be because I have that usb-c monitor attached.

Gaming and streaming on windows drains the battery, tho, slowly. 2h gaming 70% left. I have Caldigit TB3 dock and BMD eGPU Pro connected, and I have no idea which one charges the mbp, and I dont even know if I can avoid discharging using original apple charger. Just to note, I this might be also because I'm fully utilizing TB3 to the max. I have two Lacie 2B TB3 raid arrays chained, and one USB-C SSD chained there too. I have UAD Arrow as audio interface and it needs direct TB3 connection to power and function as well.

 

It's very late here (going to get some sleep now) and my time is pretty limited, but I'll try to reformat this into full quide some time soon if possible. But if you have this marginal same setup as me and never made it to work, with or without Moshi cable hope this helps.

MBP16 BMDEGPUPRO LG5K TB3

EDIT: Driver BSODs happen only when restarting from Windows start menu. Restarting balls spin quite a long and then it hangs with driver error BSOD. Funnily enough the BSOD still shows up in LG5K, so at least the egpu is working when that happens. These didn't happen first when I got this working so I guess there's something else to blame (Loupedeck, Focusrite Scarlett (Yeah I have several audio interfaces connected), Stream deck or something. But no BSOD's / hangs while gaming EXCEPT:

Borderlands 3 in DX12 mode while streaming with SLOBS. DX12 works wonders in BL3, smooth and better framerates, but there might be memory leak or something, as it hangs and restarts drivers pretty quickly into playing+streaming. RAM usage goes thru the roof. With DX11 last night I had zero issue streaming and playing, but DX11 doesn't feel as smooth and stable otherwise.

 

Macbook Pro 2019 16" + Blackmagic eGPU Pro + LG Ultrafine 5K
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Quick and dirty writeup about "plug and play" 16" Pro + Blackmagic eGPU Pro + LG5K working in Bootcamp.


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@ktek, Thank you for sharing this nice build! The upstream power delivery device is likely the Caldigit TB3 dock with 87W PD. You can get a USB-C volt/amp meter and check all Thunderbolt 3 connection to check. Given the 2019 16-in MBP can draw more wattage than 96W, I don't think there's a solution to battery drain during high load unless Apple make firmware changes.

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Posted by: @itsage

@ktek, Thank you for sharing this nice build! The upstream power delivery device is likely the Caldigit TB3 dock with 87W PD. You can get a USB-C volt/amp meter and check all Thunderbolt 3 connection to check. Given the 2019 16-in MBP can draw more wattage than 96W, I don't think there's a solution to battery drain during high load unless Apple make firmware changes.

Thanks! I hope I can find more time and energy to do further testing and documenting.

Battery drain hasn’t been issue at all when I’m only gaming, not streaming at the same time. Sadly I don’t have access to USB-C power meter at the moment, but I’ll update of I ever get one. Related, how does the device decide what power source to use, order of plugging in or something else? 

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Quick and dirty writeup about "plug and play" 16" Pro + Blackmagic eGPU Pro + LG5K working in Bootcamp.


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@ktek, The USB-C controller would choose a single device with highest Power Delivery. 

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Posted by: @itsage

@ktek, The USB-C controller would choose a single device with highest Power Delivery. 

Ok, so keeping the original charger plugged when streaming long periods could make sense. Good to know, thanks!

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Damn, finally someone has the black magic working in Windows! Great to see... would love a set up pic and some gaming benchmarks.... I'm off to Ebay.

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Posted by: @eightarmedpet

Damn, finally someone has the black magic working in Windows! Great to see... would love a set up pic and some gaming benchmarks.... I'm off to Ebay.

Hi eigharmedpet! I remember you from early days of this forum or first Discord channel. 🙂

Here be some pics from BMD setup, whole gallery in imgur link below. I'll try to run some gaming benchmarks next time I boot into Windows!

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More unnecessary extensive setup pics @ imgur here

 

Macbook Pro 2019 16" + Blackmagic eGPU Pro + LG Ultrafine 5K
ktek#2994 @ Discord

Quick and dirty writeup about "plug and play" 16" Pro + Blackmagic eGPU Pro + LG5K working in Bootcamp.


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@ktek, thought I recognised your name too! How are things?

Cheers for those pics, so good to hear someone finally has these up and running with the 5K, almost a bit fo a Unicorn set up.

Going through the pics on that link thats a pretty crazy set up! Mind if I ask what you use it for?

My SFFPC is satisfying my gaming needs atm and working with my 5K but I imagine I will have a Windows induced meltdown at some point and look at something like a Mac mini paired with either my Mantiz or a Blackmagic.

 

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix

 
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@eightarmedpet, it's been wild ride but everything's great considering the world situation. I had pretty beasty full custom loop gaming / workstation PC setup before this (and still have, need to decide what to do with it).

I'm part-time dad gamer nowadays and work as creative director for small agency. Cinematography and photography and audio production as hobbies and some occacional income. So this setup is for pretty much everything I do, including undocking and just browsing the web on a couch or something. 😉

I was considering Mini too but can't even remember how I ended up going with new 16" Pro even tho I have PC and older 2016 MBP still lying around here...

I was hoping BM would release Navi(2?) eGPU but I couldn't wait, I wanted to tinker now. Best time as there's no business going anywhere outside the house / area for atleast before summer. 

 

Macbook Pro 2019 16" + Blackmagic eGPU Pro + LG Ultrafine 5K
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@ktek, yeah, can attest to that!

Sounds like we are in similar boat use case wise, although I am so slack on Video stuff, really ought to spend a bit more time on it during this lock down period, but I say that about everything (DIY, reading, learning, etc).

Constantly unplugged cables got a bit old for me, I think I've warmed back up to the idea of two machines - have my MacBook for kicking about with, meetings, working on the go, couch intercepting and then a desktop that remains plugged into ALL the peripherals.

I too am holding out some hope for a Navi based BM, but fear it may take a very long time if at all. I wouldn't expect Navi2 until end of the year.

 

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix

 
2017 13" MacBook Pro [7th,2C,U] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.15.4 & Win10 2004 [build link]  


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