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Hi,

I've had my Mantiz Venus (1080ti + SSD) with updated firmware running fine for weeks on a TB3 macbook pro 13 late 2016, on both macos 10.12.6 and windows 10 bootcamp.

After an unfortunate forced update to windows 10 Fall Creators, everything went south regarding thunderbolt device mounting on that system and none of my thunderbolt devices (mz and thunderbolt2 with tb3 adapter elgato dock) would mount on boot.

I tried a clean installation of W10 Anniversary (1607) + thunderbolt Bus Driver for Intel (2.0.4.250) + intel chipset update with no luck.  I also retried with W10 Creator. The mantiz is powering the mac but no graphic card / ssd is detected. Also, nothing appears in the device manager and I suspect there's an issue on thunderbolt device mounting during boot.

Also tried SMC + NVRAM reset and a full formatting + high sierra reinstallation with no success.

Anybody got any clue of what's going on?

Leo

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Had the same problem. MBP 15 2016 tb, aorus gaming box, win 10 bootcamp - at first time system recognize egpu, but then was some "critical" update, and now win10 don't recognize egpu at all. After reinstall win10 download and install update at first, and egpu still not recognize.

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I think I am having a similar problem on my 15" MacBook pro 2017.  On the left side it recognizes it but wont run because of the error 12 issue and on the right when plugged in it shows a thunderbolt device is plugged in, but gpu doesn't show and I get a connect sound follow by a disconnect sound when I first plug it in.  I have tried the original apple thunderbolt drivers as well as newest drivers that come with the Intel NUC

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Posted by: Lunchbox

I think I am having a similar problem on my 15" MacBook pro 2017.  On the left side it recognizes it but wont run because of the error 12 issue and on the right when plugged in it shows a thunderbolt device is plugged in, but gpu doesn't show and I get a connect sound follow by a disconnect sound when I first plug it in.  I have tried the original apple thunderbolt drivers as well as newest drivers that come with the Intel NUC

I don't think it's linked. It has always been recommended to plug egpu to the left ports of mpbs. Also, error 12 can be fixed by several ways depending on your hardware.

I tried both of my tb3 port, and my egpu won't even show in the device manager. Seems to be related to thunderbolt drivers / firmware, but I really have no clue how to fix it.

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Posted by: Lunchbox

I think I am having a similar problem on my 15" MacBook pro 2017.  On the left side it recognizes it but wont run because of the error 12 issue and on the right when plugged in it shows a thunderbolt device is plugged in, but gpu doesn't show and I get a connect sound follow by a disconnect sound when I first plug it in.  I have tried the original apple thunderbolt drivers as well as newest drivers that come with the Intel NUC

I seem to have spoken too soon beforehand.

My MBP was working regardless of which port I was using in windows... until something happened and my setup now behaves exactly how you described. I hope there is an easy fix for this... because since then I have stopped using it.

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I had the same issue before twice. What I did was I disconnected the main power, disconnected gpu from psu and reconnect gpu and that solves my issues. I hope this would help to everyone 

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Ok, I think I have a related problem: I've always used mantiz Venus with 1080ti on the right port of my macbook 2017, and a thunderbolt 3 elgato dock in the left port. I'm not sure if it was after I updated to High Sierra, or if windows did an auto update (gotta check), but my thunderbolt 3 dock stopped working on Windows. On Macos it works 100%. 

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Posted by: kimbo

I had the same issue before twice. What I did was I disconnected the main power, disconnected gpu from psu and reconnect gpu and that solves my issues. I hope this would help to everyone 

Even without the graphic card, the SSD installed in the Mantiz won't mount so the issue is deeper than that :/

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I had a very similar issue, while this won't fix error 12. NVRAM and SMC reset usually do the trick when trying to make bootcamp detect my Mantiz, on my 2016 MBP

Just make sure you get the button combos correct for SMC reset. On the newer MacBooks the process is different than most tutorials and its not always clear SMC was reset correctly.

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NVRAM- https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204063

SMC-  https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

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Posted by: wavesdontdie

I had a very similar issue, while this won't fix error 12. NVRAM and SMC reset usually do the trick when trying to make bootcamp detect my Mantiz, on my 2016 MBP

Just make sure you get the button combos correct for SMC reset. On the newer MacBooks the process is different than most tutorials and its not always clear SMC was reset correctly.

That makes sense but I already tried several times to reset SMC and NVRAM with no result.

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Guys, this ( https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/2016-15-macbook-pro-stopped-detecting-egpu-in-windows-help/) resolve my problem, with DSDT win10 detect my egpu

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I really don't understand why booting on my bootcamp partition with the original efi corrupts all my thunderbolt ports, but I finally got something working by using the apple_set_os.efi.

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For me I think it was an early sign of Logic Board failure as my computer has completely died now and is with apple getting its logic board replaced.  Maybe something to keep an eye out for.  

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Posted by: Lunchbox

For me I think it was an early sign of Logic Board failure as my computer has completely died now and is with apple getting its logic board replaced.  Maybe something to keep an eye out for.  

That's no fun. Did AppleCare explain what's the cause of logic board failure on your MacBook Pro?

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No the technician simply stated had yet see this happen with a  2017 MBP and the it was failing the most basic of low level diagnostic tests.  I had decided to take it in to apple after I had tried to reset the SMC holding down shift control option and rebooting hoping it might help with the thunderbolt errors.  After the reset the fans were running 100% at all times and I could not get the computer to boot into my user account (it would just keep rebooting) or the bootcamp partition it would just sit spinning indefinitely.  I could get it to boot into the low level guest account.  The basic level diagnostic test completed by apple at the store failed to located the RAM, the battery and showed SMC failure amongst other issues.   

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An update.  I received the repaired macbook pro and everything seems to be working well (or much better) After some hard use in bootcamp playing Destiny 2 the egpu crashed twice and required me to turn it off and on again before the computer would recognize it after a restart.  In comparison to the previous issues I would say this is a significant improvement!  

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I have been switching ports to make my eGPU work, but now all of my 4 ports don't recognize the eGPU under Bootcamp. I will be taking my MacBook Pro 2017 15" to the Apple Store to see if all the ports are in working conditions.

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Posted by: Creativity

I have been switching ports to make my eGPU work, but now all of my 4 ports don't recognize the eGPU under Bootcamp. I will be taking my MacBook Pro 2017 15" to the Apple Store to see if all the ports are in working conditions.

I'm facing the same issue on Windows 🙁 I had it working for about 5 months, but suddenly it doesn't work anymore. Please keep me posted, I'm sad 🙁

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Any news on this issue?

I believe i have a similar issue, I had this working for a few days, then the computer went into hibernation and after a troublesome restart of the computer the devices never came back on the righthand ports (4x), the devices show up(inconsistently) on the left side(8x), but since i'm using a rx580 i must stay with the 4x as i can never get passed the code12 issue. This is driving me nuts, trying to talk to mantiz support on messenger is hopeless as they only tell me to do a reinstall(something i have done several times now, full format, windows reset etc etc etc) with no luck. This is something else.. 

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If your eGPU works normally in MacOS and just couldn't be detected under Win10. Try reinstall the 1703 version and stop windows auto update.

I fixed my Aorus Gaming Box 1070 by doing that.  And the system is very stable now. I just plug it to the closer left port and do not need to halt any device in device manager. 

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Posted by: Rycco
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I have been switching ports to make my eGPU work, but now all of my 4 ports don't recognize the eGPU under Bootcamp. I will be taking my MacBook Pro 2017 15" to the Apple Store to see if all the ports are in working conditions.

I'm facing the same issue on Windows 🙁 I had it working for about 5 months, but suddenly it doesn't work anymore. Please keep me posted, I'm sad 🙁

So, I’ve checked with Apple and they say all ports are in working condition… I’ve been using my eGPU by enabling iGPU on Windows 10 and that seems to work fine.

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Posted by: Creativity
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I have been switching ports to make my eGPU work, but now all of my 4 ports don't recognize the eGPU under Bootcamp. I will be taking my MacBook Pro 2017 15" to the Apple Store to see if all the ports are in working conditions.

I'm facing the same issue on Windows 🙁 I had it working for about 5 months, but suddenly it doesn't work anymore. Please keep me posted, I'm sad 🙁

So, I’ve checked with Apple and they say all ports are in working condition… I’ve been using my eGPU by enabling iGPU on Windows 10 and that seems to work fine.

Can you elaborate on what you have done?

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Posted by: Lunchbox

An update.  I received the repaired macbook pro and everything seems to be working well (or much better) After some hard use in bootcamp playing Destiny 2 the egpu crashed twice and required me to turn it off and on again before the computer would recognize it after a restart.  In comparison to the previous issues I would say this is a significant improvement!  

How long it took? What were the signals that happened before you realized something was broken? My macbook is randomly freezing in macos when using any thunderbolt device as well ( and no thunderbolt device work on Windows, neither egpu of course) so I'm assuming is something wrong on the hardware. Should I take to Apple?

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Posted by: Rycco
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I have been switching ports to make my eGPU work, but now all of my 4 ports don't recognize the eGPU under Bootcamp. I will be taking my MacBook Pro 2017 15" to the Apple Store to see if all the ports are in working conditions.

I'm facing the same issue on Windows 🙁 I had it working for about 5 months, but suddenly it doesn't work anymore. Please keep me posted, I'm sad 🙁

So, I’ve checked with Apple and they say all ports are in working condition… I’ve been using my eGPU by enabling iGPU on Windows 10 and that seems to work fine.

Can you elaborate on what you have done?

I followed this guide,  https://egpu.io/forums/pc-setup/how-to-keep-mbps-irisiris-pro-activated-when-booting-into-windows-boot-camp/

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Posted by: Creativity
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I have been switching ports to make my eGPU work, but now all of my 4 ports don't recognize the eGPU under Bootcamp. I will be taking my MacBook Pro 2017 15" to the Apple Store to see if all the ports are in working conditions.

I'm facing the same issue on Windows 🙁 I had it working for about 5 months, but suddenly it doesn't work anymore. Please keep me posted, I'm sad 🙁

So, I’ve checked with Apple and they say all ports are in working condition… I’ve been using my eGPU by enabling iGPU on Windows 10 and that seems to work fine.

Can you elaborate on what you have done?

I followed this guide,  https://egpu.io/forums/pc-setup/how-to-keep-mbps-irisiris-pro-activated-when-booting-into-windows-boot-camp/

I tried but no success. Not sure I'm doing it right. Here's what I did:

Installed refind

Put the apple_set_os.efi in the right folder

Rebooted the computer

On refind, fist select the script, then select to load windows.

When doing this, windows crashes on boot and restarted. No success. Am I doing something wrong?

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Can I get some love on my reply above?

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I think you missed the integrated.bat part.

automate-eGPU EFIapple_set_os.efi

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Posted by: goalque

I think you missed the integrated.bat part.

Ok, running the integrated.bat causes the Windows not to load. I get a weird glitch on the boot screen, something like an old tv where the image is not stable. Then it went to safe mode and then it was back booting again. With no eGPU detection of course. Hope Apple can confirm my thunderbolt inputs are fucked up 🙁

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I've searched a lot during these 3 weeks. I assume if no one else if facing any issues on Windows bootacamp using Macbook pro 2017, it IS a hardware issue here. Does anyone know if Apple officially support Windows 10 on Bootcamp? By support I mean: if it's proved that none thunderbolt device is working on Windows, then it's a hardware issue and they will look after that.

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Did you get this working under the fall creators update or prior windows version?  Were you using Hotplug method prior?

I am about to get my aorus gaming box with late 2016 MBP w/TB - and nervous.  I need this solution to work reliably under both High Sierra and Bootcamp (with hotplug method).  I am about to deploy and want a reliable way to amp my MBP.  Otherwise, I need to buy a seperate gaming notebook to lug around.

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I couldn't get the hotplug method to work in my nearly mint install of 1709 on my new (refurb) late 2016 MBP 13 w/TB.  I went back to a 1703 build I downloaded, clean install, and hotplug method is working great.  Results in windows are pretty awesome so far.  Meets and exceeds the performance on 1060 gaming laptops for the most part.  I was even shocked to see Battlefield 1 blasting away at 1440P/Ultra at well over 60FPS without issue.  This is pretty...interesting, considering other reviews said BF1 was a pretty severely CPU limited game (albeit on a slower chip than the MBP 13 w/TB).

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Posted by: usafballer

I couldn't get the hotplug method to work in my nearly mint install of 1709 on my new (refurb) late 2016 MBP 13 w/TB.  I went back to a 1703 build I downloaded, clean install, and hotplug method is working great.  Results in windows are pretty awesome so far.  Meets and exceeds the performance on 1060 gaming laptops for the most part.  I was even shocked to see Battlefield 1 blasting away at 1440P/Ultra at well over 60FPS without issue.  This is pretty...interesting, considering other reviews said BF1 was a pretty severely CPU limited game (albeit on a slower chip than the MBP 13 w/TB).

That's nice to hear! I still couldn't figure my issue out, I even took my macbook pro back to apple 🙁

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I couldn't get the hotplug method to work in my nearly mint install of 1709 on my new (refurb) late 2016 MBP 13 w/TB.  I went back to a 1703 build I downloaded, clean install, and hotplug method is working great.  Results in windows are pretty awesome so far.  Meets and exceeds the performance on 1060 gaming laptops for the most part.  I was even shocked to see Battlefield 1 blasting away at 1440P/Ultra at well over 60FPS without issue.  This is pretty...interesting, considering other reviews said BF1 was a pretty severely CPU limited game (albeit on a slower chip than the MBP 13 w/TB).

That's nice to hear! I still couldn't figure my issue out, I even took my macbook pro back to apple 🙁

UPDATE:

Took my Macbook to Apple, they took one month but replaced the logic board. All good now.

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After reading this I’m certain the eGPU’s are doing something to our I/O or Logic Boards? Anyone have any idea how it would be damaging it?

My 15” 2017 MacBook is too in at Apple to have both replaced, except my issue was top right port only. Initially the top right port would only work intermittently then this weekend it started frying (with smoke) anything without a battery; USB Drive, 2.4GHz Wireless Mouse Reciever and headphones. Effectively treating every device as though it needed power delivery. 

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It looks like Microsoft have changed the Thunderbolt drivers in the Creators update so that ports are enumerated differently making it impossible to disable them until a device has been connected.  Even after doing this after connection, still a no-go here.  Right side ports on MacBook Pro 15" look to be setup for 4-lane which is what we want as the left are showing up as 8-lane making it difficult to allocate resources.

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