2012 14" Lenovo Thinkpad T430s + [email protected] (Mantiz Venus via TB3 to TB adapter) + Win10 [Yukikaze]^  

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Yukikaze
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June 13, 2017 12:25 am  

About three weeks ago, nando brought it to my attention that a TB2 non-Mac laptop was successfully connected to an AKiTiO Node via an Apple TB3 to TB adapter. I wanted to try this sooner, but I was swamped with real life. As a result, only now I am getting to try this with my own laptops and a Mantiz board (the same one as used in the Venus). This board has updated FW, which appears to be the key to this working.

In short, I can get the ancient TB1 T430s to play nice with a state of the art Mantiz Venus board, and it is pretty much plug-and-play.

Components used:

Laptop: Lenovo T430s (2355HKU).

BIOS Version: G7ET94WW (2.54)

CPU: Core i7-3520M (dual-core, 2.9Ghz).

Memory: 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz.

SSD: myDigitalSSD BP4e 120Gb mSATA SSD.

eGPU: Gigabyte GTX 1050Ti 4GB sitting on the Mantiz board and connected to the T430s via a 2m Apple TB cable and the Apple TB3<->TB adapter.

Screen: Sony XBR-43X800D TV ([email protected] over HDMI2.0).

OS: Windows 10 Professional 64-bit.

Installation Process:

1) I disconnected my Thunder2 from the laptop and moved the TB cable to the Venus via the Apple adapter. The same HDMI cable was connected to the card and the TV.

2) I powered up the system. Windows immediately picked up a pair of "new" devices. These were the NVidia Audio Controller and the GTX1050Ti.

3) As previously, the GTX1050Ti came up with a Code 12. I disabled the NVidia audio device as I do not need it and rebooted.

4) The GTX1050Ti came up fully functional and the TV immediately took over as the primary display, as it was via the Thunderbolt2 setup.

This is very exciting! I will try it with my ZBook setup in the next few days!

EDIT:

Additional info:

1) The Valley score is all but identical to the score achieved via a Thunder2 eGPU setup. 

2) I did not try the USB/Ethernet/SATA expansion board of the Venus, so I do not know if this works, but with the little bandwidth available over TB1, this is mostly an academic question: Do not use the additional expansion ports if you run a setup like this, as you're going to further degrade your performance.

Update: Having retired my AKiTiO Thunder2 enclosures (look for a sale soon!) I moved the Venus board permanently to the T430s. Here are come benchmarks.

Unigine Valley/Heaven:

3DMark Tests:
Cloud Gate: 24,156 Graphics, 3,328 Physics, 10,103 Overall.
Sky Diver: 15,512 Graphics, 4,875 Physics, 11,343 Overall.
Fire Strike: 5,825 Graphics, 4,606 Physics, 4,816 Overall.
Time Spy: 959 Graphics, 660 CPU, 897 Overall.

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nando4
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June 13, 2017 12:43 am  

Thank you for this important second confirmation that TB3 enclosures can work on PC notebooks via the Apple TB3 to TB2 adapter.

Very much looking forward to your ZBook 15 G2 implementation. ZBook 15/17 G2 systems with a potent i7-quad CPU and a TB2 port.  Would make a good s/h budget TB eGPU candidate.

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thor203
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June 13, 2017 6:15 pm  

Will this configuration also work with a MBP tb1 in windows 10 ? 

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nando4
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June 13, 2017 6:23 pm  
Posted by: thor203

Will this configuration also work with a MBP tb1 in windows 10 ? 

There are implementation examples of TB3 enclosure being used on TB2/TB1 Macbooks via the Apple TB3 to TB2 adapter in Windows :

https://egpu.io/external-gpu-implementations-table/?table_filter=%22Macbook%20%3EA%20Win%22

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HWfreak
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August 3, 2017 10:30 am  

It is possible that Akitio Node will work with T430S and this adapter?

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nando4
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August 3, 2017 10:44 am  

@HWfreak, I am please to advise that yes, we have had success attaching PC Thunderbolt3 enclosures to Thunderbolt2 or 1 systems. The key is to ensure the enclosure has the latest firmware on it allowing eGPU detection even on systems that are not eGFX certified. Plus you'll need the Apple bi-directional Thunderbolt3 to Thunderbolt2 adapter. Here's a list of TB2/TB1 notebooks successfully attaching a TB3 enclosure:

https://egpu.io/external-gpu-implementations-table/?table_filter=%22%3ETB3%20Win%20%22#search

 

eGPU Setup 1.35    •    eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference Table    •    Several builds
2015 15" Dell Precision 7510 M1000M + macOS 10.14 & Win10


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