2012 15" Macbook Pro Retina GT650M + GTX1060@10Gbps-TB1 (AKiTiO Thunder2) + Win10 [enjoy]^  

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January 5, 2017 10:58 pm  

I dont like the new retina MacBook Pro 2016 and choose to spend my money for the eGPU setup

you can see new thread here - 2013 15" Macbook Pro Iris Pro + GTX1060@16Gbps-TB2 (AKiTiO Thunder2) + Win10 [enjoy]^ // Optimus Internal Display

I read a lot of info before i start my project! Now i have more then 5 times better laptop just for 633 EUR!


MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) / Windows 10 64 Bit (BIOS) / Bootcamp

2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 "Ivy Bridge" (I7-3615QM) (Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz) with 6MB shared L3 cache

8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB / Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB

256GB SSD + 1TB WD My Passport Ultra Metal Edition (Silver)


I. PARTS

1. Akitio Thunderbolt2 PCIe Expansion Box 290 EUR

2. 2 x Startech.com 6 inch PCI Express Power Splitter Cable 20 EUR

3. EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 Super Clocked (1607 /1835)  GAMING 6GB  275 EUR

4. Dell 220W DA-2 35 EUR

5. DC Barrel 5.5mm x 2.5mm 1 EUR

6. HDMI to VGA adapter from Bulgaria 12 EUR - to play on the retina internal screen

TOTAL: 633 EUR


II. DELL 220W DA-2 SETUP: 


III. Uninstall GT650M Drivers from Device Manager and Download and install 327.70 NVIDIA Drivers http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/107012/en-us


IV. ERROR 12 FIX

Obtain nando4's DIY eGPU Setup 1.35 and install per supplied instructions

Restart and load eGPU Setup 1.35 and select 2 with your keyboard:

1. 

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2.

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3.

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V. Install again 327.70 NVIDIA Driver when you with the two GPU's in Windows


VI. UPDATE THE DRIVERS

Update to latest NVIDIA Drivers - 378.66


VII. DONE

I can play all games - FULL HD / 60 FPS (all to MAX + AA) on External Display

I can play all games - 1680x1050 / 30-40 FPS (all to MAX + AA) on my Internal Reitna Display

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 I also made a custom Windows 10 theme aka macOS Gaming 10.10.10 🙂


PLAY ON INTERNAL RETINA MONITOR 

So the main limitations with this model of Macbook is the fact that you need an external display. We can got around this limitation with this little device and three resistors:

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It's a HDMI to VGA adapter. 

All you need to do is put 3x 100ohm resistors inside the VGA port to create a fake external display. You can see where the resistors need to go with this image:

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So the deal with this is, any program started on the 'external screen' (being powered by the eGPU) will use the eGPU. So what you'll want to do is set the fake display as your main display. Then anything started on that display will be running from the eGPU. Now there is a little limitation here; only games that run in windowed mode will work (which is most). You'll want to start the game on the fake screen in windowed mode and then drag it over to your internal display.

So how do you grab from a display you can't see? Well, I found this free program called Dual Monitor Tools (it's free right here: Dual Monitor Tools - Home ) and what you can do in this program is set a keyboard shortcut to move the selected window over to the other display. So you click on the game in the task bar, and hit the shortcut you assigned and it'll pop over to the internal screen, but because it was launched on the fake screen, it'll be powered by the eGPU.

Simple as that, there's no performance hit either as you're just dragging the game to the other screen.

A good tip is to have the internal display set as default first, launch the game, go to options and set the game to windowed mode now, then quit and relaunch after you've changed the fake screen as your primary. Otherwise you might not be able to switch it with the shortcut while it's in full screen.


HOW TO START THE SETUP (when i want to play games):

1. Power the laptop and hold alt opt key

2. Click on Bootcamp

3. choose eGPU Setup 1.35 from boot menu and select 1 with your keyboard

4. choose again Windows 10 from boot menu

5. Start the game i want

6. Press the combination for Dual Monitor Tools to show the game on my Internal Display (i use Borderless Gaming so i run my games fullscreen on my retina display)


 PICTURES:

Akitio TB2 Case Mod + EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 Super Clocked (1607 /1835)  GAMING 6GB


VIDEOS:


BENCHMARKS:

Unigine Heaven 4.0 Benchmark Score EXTERNAL DISPLAY 1920x1080:

Unigine Heaven 4.0 Benchmark Score INTERNAL RETINA DISPLAY 1680x1050:

3DMark Fire Strike v.1.1 Benchmarks Score:

6584 in Fire Strike (V1.1) - External (fake display) - the basic test (for example only 1522 with dGPU - GT 650M)
Graphics score: 7 210 
Graphics test 1: 32.47 FPS
Graphics test 2: 30.30 FP

FOR EXAMPLE: This user have 8556 in Fire Strike (V1.1) (  http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9689714  ) with the closer CPU to mine so there is 20% performance loss because of TB1 but I still can play all games Very High or Ultra FULL HD!

1680 x 1050 - External (fake display) - just change the resolution i don't touch any settings
Graphics score: 9 089
Graphics test 1: 46.98 FPS
Graphics test 2: 34.11 FPS

1680 x 1050 - Internal Retina Display  (Borderless) - just change the resolution i don't touch any settings
Graphics score: 7 852  - the score is enough to play all games VERY HIGH/ULTRA with 1680 x 1050 on the Internal Retina Display  (Borderless)
Graphics test 1: 33.96 FPS
Graphics test 2: 34.32 FPS
 

1680 x 1050 - Internal Retina Display  (Windowed) - just change the resolution i don't touch any settings
Graphics score: 8 377 
Graphics test 1: 37.83 FPS
Graphics test 2: 35.12 FPS


HOW TO CLOSE THE AKiTiO

1. I made by myself 90 degrees 6 pin i use one of my  Startech.com 6 inch PCI Express Power Splitter Cable to close the Akitio

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 2. I buy 6-pin to 6+2-pin PCI-E power cable (you can use 6pin to 6 pin but i cant find here in Bulgaria), cut him and put him in the Akitio original hole close to Akitio Barell plug

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3. I remove the Akitio back panel (also help for the Air)


enjoy 🙂

Edited: 1 week  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 6, 2017 4:43 pm  
Posted by: enjoy

 

I read a lot of info before i start my project! Now i have more then 5 times better laptop just for 633 EUR!

   

great write up!  This will, for sure, be incredibly helpful anyone looking to incorporate a TB2 egpu in their setup.

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January 6, 2017 6:39 pm  

I install 3DMark and run the Fire Strike 1.1 here are the results:

 

6584 in Fire Strike (V1.1) - External (fake display) - the basic test
Graphics score
7 210 
Graphics test 1
32.47 FPS
Graphics test 2
30.30 FP

 

FOR EXAMPLE: This user have 8556 in Fire Strike (V1.1) (  http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9689714  ) with the closer CPU to mine so there is 20% performance loss because of TB1 but I still can play all games Very High or Ultra FULL HD!

 

1680 x 1050 - External (fake display) - just change the resolution i don't touch any settings
Graphics score
9 089
Graphics test 1
46.98 FPS
Graphics test 2
34.11 FPS

1680 x 1050 - Internal Retina Display  (Borderless) - just change the resolution i don't touch any settings
Graphics score
7 852  - the score is enough to play all games VERY HIGH/ULTRA with 1680 x 1050 on the Internal Retina Display  (Borderless)
Graphics test 1
33.96 FPS
Graphics test 2
34.32 FPS

 

1680 x 1050 - Internal Retina Display  (Windowed) - just change the resolution i don't touch any settings
Graphics score
8 377 
Graphics test 1
37.83 FPS
Graphics test 2
35.12 FPS

 

Here is also a video of the setup

Edited: 6 days  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 7, 2017 12:34 pm  

Between i just buy Far Cry Primal, and this is the first game that have a menu to choose the video card you want to play!

 

1. So to play the game I made my Retina display as my main display

2. Start the game

3. Choose GTX 1060 6GB

4. set Borderless Windowed

5. Restart the game

6. DONE, i can play without   Borderless Gaming and  Dual Monitor Tools - Home

 

If in future more games have that options, it will be easy for us, because Retina display will be Primary always,

 

Not big problem for me now because i drag the taskbar from primary display (fake display) to my Retina display and i have fake main display but i must use Dual Monitor Tool or Shift + Left + CMD to move programs to my Retina display and Borderless Gaming app :) 

 

And again Far Cry Primal with Far Cry Primal HD Texture Pack and all set to ULTRA Setting with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-50 FPS on my retina display ;) Its look amazing!

 

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ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 12, 2017 8:00 pm  

And again, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided 

 

Ultra preset with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-40 FPS on my retina display ;) Its look great!

 

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Edited: 1 year  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 12, 2017 8:41 pm  

When my AKiTiO Thunder2 grows up, it wants to be like yours. Awesome build and documentation!

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January 17, 2017 9:54 pm  

Need For Speed

Ultra + TAA with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-40 FPS on my retina display... :)

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Call of Duty Infinite Warfare

Ultra + all to MAX with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-40 FPS on my retina display... :)

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Crysis 3

Very High (all to MAX) + FXAA with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-40 FPS on my retina display... old but GOLD...

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Project CARS

Ultra (all to MAX) + SMAA with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-40 FPS on my retina display... the best racing game for me, with the most detailed cars!

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ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 18, 2017 4:34 pm  

For everyone who is interested:

Here is the deference between Thunderbolt™ 1,Thunderbolt™ 2 and Thunderbolt™ 3

In my case, my eGPU have TB1 (PCIe x4 2.0) so we have only 5% drop vs. TB2 and TB3, so no reason to update to TB2 or TB3 laptop and Akitio Node or Akitio TB3 :) I will have only 5-10% better performance from what i read or 5 FPS increase in games with other words!

 

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Edited: 1 year  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 18, 2017 4:42 pm  
Posted by: enjoy

 

For everyone who is interested:

 

Here is the deference between Thunderbolt™ 1,Thunderbolt™ 2 and Thunderbolt™ 3

 

In my case, my eGPU we have TB1 (PCIe x4 2.0) so we have only 5% drop vs. TB2 and TB3, so no reason to update to TB2 or TB3 laptop and Akitio Node or TB3 :) I will have only 5-10% better performance from what i read.

 

@enjoy, you have a x4 2.0 electrical link (16Gbps) but your TB1 channel is constricted to 10Gbps. With an external LCD TB1 to TB3 can do OK.

Its when you drive the internal LCD that bandwidth requirements increase. A lot. Running 4k internal @ 60Hz requires 15Gbps, more than your entire 10Gbos link can supply. Hence these new XPS/Macbooks with high res screens want TB3 for good eGPU performance on the internal LCD (NVidia Optimus or AMD X-Connect).

eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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January 18, 2017 4:55 pm  

@nando4

Yes but with the "fake display" we removed that limits, I speak for my case.

I just add the post for people that maybe want to buy TB2 or TB3 laptop and use the same method as mine, for now i don't have a reason to update my laptop, because for example - Macbook Pro 2016 with Akitio Node or Akitio TB3 and my EVGA 1060 SC 6GB will have the same permormance like me (or close) if they run the games with NVidia Optimus on the internal dipslay right ?

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 18, 2017 5:32 pm  
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@nando4

Yes but with the "fake display" we removed that limits, I speak for my case.

I just add the post for people that maybe want to buy TB2 or TB3 laptop and use the same method as mine, for now i don't have a reason to update my laptop, because for example - Macbook Pro 2016 with Akitio Node or Akitio TB3 and my EVGA 1060 SC 6GB will have the same permormance like me (or close) if they run the games with NVidia Optimus on the internal dipslay right ?

   

 Fake display is impinging on your 10Gbps bandwidth since the image needs to be sent from the eGPU to the dGPU along TB channel for display on internal LCD.

 

https://k.kramerav.com/support/bwcalculator.asp tells me 1680x1050 @ 60Hz, 8bits-per-pixel, 3 channels = 4.41Gbps. So nearly half your 10Gbps bandwidth is used for "fake" internal LCD traffic.

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eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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January 19, 2017 10:40 am  

Watch Dogs 2 also have the option to choose the Display and the Video Card - its amazing if the new games keep this option!

 

Ultra (all to MAX) + MSAAx2 with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-35 FPS on my retina display... no comment :)

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Tom Clancy's The Division™

Ultra (all to MAX) + SMAAx1 with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-35 FPS on my retina display... great game ;)

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Edited: 1 year  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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Posted by: enjoy

 

@nando4

Yes but with the "fake display" we removed that limits, I speak for my case.

I just add the post for people that maybe want to buy TB2 or TB3 laptop and use the same method as mine, for now i don't have a reason to update my laptop, because for example - Macbook Pro 2016 with Akitio Node or Akitio TB3 and my EVGA 1060 SC 6GB will have the same permormance like me (or close) if they run the games with NVidia Optimus on the internal dipslay right ?

   

 Fake display is impinging on your 10Gbps bandwidth since the image needs to be sent from the eGPU to the dGPU along TB channel for display on internal LCD.

 

https://k.kramerav.com/support/bwcalculator.asp tells me 1680x1050 @ 60Hz, 8bits-per-pixel, 3 channels = 4.41Gbps. So nearly half your 10Gbps bandwidth is used for "fake" internal LCD traffic.

   

Thanks for the info, i know that i can UP the FPS and the performance with 5-10% if i buy TB2 Macbook (2013) for example (i can buy it for the same price) but for now i like my setup, maybe when new games starts to lag on my setup i will upgrade just the model of the Macbook! I dont like the new Macbook. 

Can you tell me how much -  i will UP the FPS and the performance (on the internal display) with Thunderbolt 2 laptop if i use the same video card?

Edited: 1 year  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 21, 2017 7:40 am  

Thanks for the info, i know that i can UP the FPS and the performance with 5-10% if i buy TB2 Macbook (2013) for example (i can buy it for the same price) but for now i like my setup, maybe when new games starts to lag on my setup i will upgrade just the model of the Macbook! I dont like the new Macbook. 

Can you tell me how much -  i will UP the FPS and the performance (on the internal display) with Thunderbolt 2 laptop if i use the same video card?

  

Based on the x4 1.0 (8Gbps ~TB1) versus x4 2.0 (16Gbps-TB2) PCIe scaling results for a GTX980,  you'll go from 75% to 87% of x16 2.0 desktop performance at FHD. That's if using an external LCD. Using the internal LCD, FHD@60Hz requires 4.46Gbps. So you'd have 11.5Gbps left over for gaming traffic.

You could approximately see that performance by attaching an external LCD to your current rig, which would be slightly less bandwidth at 10Gbps. See how much it improves performance over your current ~5.6Gbps bandwidth remaining after using internal LCD mode on your 10Gbps-TB1 link.

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eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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January 22, 2017 12:09 am  

BIG UPDATE about Thunderbolt 1 vs Thunderbolt 2:

Here is the results from a user with MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) TB2 with the same video card like me clocked - GPU +120Mhz Mem +300Mhz (2126Mhz and 4304Mhz)

Internal Display:

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I have run the same test with the same clocks of the video card - GPU +120Mhz Mem +300Mhz (2126Mhz and 4304Mhz)  (MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) on my Internal Display

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So its confirmed that for now i dont need upgrade to TB2 Macbook 🙂

 

Here is the Unigine Heaven 4.0 Benchmark Score with my gaming 1680x1050 on my Retina Display: 

MY SETUP
Edited: 1 year  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 25, 2017 11:27 pm  

DiRT Rally

Ultra (all to MAX) + 8xMSAA with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-35 FPS on my retina display... 

 

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ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 26, 2017 12:05 pm  

The Witcher 3 

Ultra (all to MAX) + Nvidia HairWorks AA with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-35 FPS (i have some drops but it is playable) on my retina display

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ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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January 31, 2017 7:45 pm  

After month with my AKITIO Thunder2 feat. EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC 6GB eGPU setup I can confirm that this is the best way to turn your OLD Macbook in gaming Laptop.

 

I can play all games - FULL HD / 60 FPS (all to MAX + AA) on External Display

I can play all games - 1680x1050 / 30-40 FPS (all to MAX + AA) on my Internal Reitna Display

 

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 I also made a custom Windows 10 theme aka macOS Gaming 10.10.10 🙂

enjoy 🙂

Edited: 1 year  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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February 1, 2017 10:06 am  

I got a question for you enjoy. I'm currently waiting for my Thunder3 and EVGA GTX 1060 (half length) to arrive. I have also bought this cable. Will I be able to close the enclousure?

I will drill a hole in the back so the power cable can go out there. But my concern is the GPU power cable at the top. The cable have a 90 degree socket. Will that help?

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February 1, 2017 10:55 am  

@noler Yes you can.

1, I made by myself 90 degrees 6 pin i use one of my  Startech.com 6 inch PCI Express Power Splitter Cable to close the Akitio

123455.jpg

 2. I buy 6-pin to 6+2-pin PCI-E power cable (you can use 6pin to 6 pin but i cant find here in Bulgaria), cut him and put him in the Akitio original hole close to Akitio Barell plug

qwrqwrrq.jpg

3. I remove the Akitio back panel (also help for the Air)

 

About your cable i think you will need to cut small part of the plastic of the 90 degree 6 pin end (look first picture in this post) to close the Akitio Thunder3

Edited: 1 year  ago

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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February 1, 2017 1:36 pm  

I cut big part of the plastic of one of my Startech.com 6 inch PCI Express Power Splitter Cable 6 pin end (look first picture in this post)

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February 1, 2017 2:47 pm  
Posted by: enjoy

 

I cut big part of the plastic of one of my Startech.com 6 inch PCI Express Power Splitter Cable 6 pin end (look first picture in this post)

   

I'm sorry. I Must be stupid, but I seriously cant see which part you cut of. Can you be more specific? 

Sorry haha

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February 1, 2017 4:07 pm  

Nice setup and very well explained! I didn't know it was possible to run games so well on macbooks with only thunderbolt 1 ports 🙂

I would have two questions:

How are the fans? Are they noisy while you're playing? Does your macbook heat up?

If I build my setup (your setup 🙂 ) but with a thunderbolt 2 macbook (dGPU 750m), the available bandwidth will be twice that of the bandwidth you have, right?
So, i don't understand why i could not run games on my internal screen much better than you're running these games on your internal screen. As nando4 wrote, I should have 11 Gbps left for gaming traffic and you only have 5.6 Gbps. Why does thunderbolt 2 not improve the performance that much?

I must miss something 🙂

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February 1, 2017 4:47 pm  

@Antharsious -

 

@noler - see the picture:

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February 1, 2017 5:09 pm  

Thanks alot for the picture!!

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February 10, 2017 11:45 am  

GTA V

Ultra (all to MAX) + 8xMSAA  with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-35 FPS on my retina display... 

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 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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February 14, 2017 6:01 pm  

@enjoy

Thanks for your write-up as well. I have the same MBP model as you, GTX 970 and Win10 ready but before I proceed with buying the DIY setup and switching the drivers, I wanted to kindly ask a couple of questions:

1) According to this, I suppose I could use the newest driver instead of 327.70 due to having GTX 970?

2) Did your MBP also fail to boot without the DIY setup when you plugged in the Akitio?


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February 14, 2017 6:14 pm  

@Kyrio

1) I don't know but I'am still with 376.09 and don't have problems with all games 🙂 - you must try with latest!

2) You will have error 12 without nando4's DIY eGPU Setup 1.35

 

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February 14, 2017 6:19 pm  

Forza Horizon 3

Ultra (all to MAX) + 4xMSAA  with 1680x1050 I can play the game with 30-35 FPS on my retina display... 

ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
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February 14, 2017 6:40 pm  

Have you had any issues with the boot process being broken by, say, a Windows update?

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Posted by: Kyrio

 

Have you had any issues with the boot process being broken by, say, a Windows update?

   

Windows update doesn't touch the BCD used for the boot process.

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eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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February 14, 2017 7:22 pm  
Posted by: Kyrio

 

Have you had any issues with the boot process being broken by, say, a Windows update?

   

 

No problems with my setup for 2 months, i still update the Windows 10, i don't touch only the NVIDIA drivers because all games work great with 376.09.

eGPU - turns our 2012 old Macbook Pro - in a Gaming Macbook better than the new one 2016 with TB - 5 years later. So if you want to gaming like me - just DO IT 🙂 Our laptops have a Quad Core processors, its old but its still great for gaming, SSD and 8GB of RAM is enough for all games, even Thunderbolt 1 is not a problem 🙂

I still update the thread with games that runs like a charm on my retina display. With External Display you can have 60 FPS gaming, but 30 FPS in great for me and i love my retina display and how clean the setup is. 

You must also know that our 2012 15" MBPr GT650M with DIY Setup is the best and easy setup, its work great, other have a problems, we can restart always without problems!

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ϟ AKiTiO Thunder2 + EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Gaming (macOS Sierra 10.12.4 and Windows 10)
 MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Later 2013) 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i7-4750HQ / 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 / 256GB SSD + 1TB
mini eGPUPCI Express vs. ThunderboltMac CAN gameGaming Laptops vs. MacBook Pro with eGPU


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February 14, 2017 8:28 pm  

That's great to hear, thank you both! I'm trying this out right now but when I uninstall the GT650M driver in device manager, I can no longer install 327.70 (or the latest). The included hardware compatibility check tells me it can not find an NVidia card... So far, I can't boot with Akitio+GTX970 plugged in and the end result is the same if I try to plug them right before the uninstallation. Had to go back to a recovery point.

Is it really necessary to uninstall the GT650M driver first?


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February 14, 2017 8:56 pm  

GT650M + GTX970 are included in the same 351.53 MB 372.70 NVidia driver regardless of if they refer to it as the mobile or desktop driver. So no need to uninstall the GT650M. Instead:

- install 372.70 while only the GT650M is detected (eGPU attached).  Reboot into Windows.

- shutdown Windows

- attach the GTX970 eGPU

- boot Win10 and allow Win10 to automatically PnP the 372.70 driver for the GTX970. Do a Device Manager rescan confirm it's detected and showing as GTX970 in Device Manager->Display adapters.

- then use Setup 1.35 to eradicate error 12 against the eGPU (PCI Compaction->All except SATA, Chainloader->Test Run).

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