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October 8, 2017 11:39 am  

Keeping this short and sweet.

3rd set up, previous ones here and here

I found my original set up the GPU would get too hot for my liking and the Dell PSU was nearly the same size as the Thunder3 itself. My first Dell PSU failed and by the time my second arrived I was sick of the sight of them - along with the messy cabling required to power anything above a 1050ti, so I purchased a Sonnet.

I had a 1060 in there originally and all was fine, upgraded to a 1070 and had the dreaded error 12, recieved a notification telling me I needed to restart to finish new hardware setup and once back up into Windows all was fine.

My benchmarks are VERY low, which I assume is due to using an LG 5K Display which means I can only connect it to my Macbook and not the GPU directly. A bit annoying, contemplating a new monitor but prob wont bother.

I'm an idiot, benchmarks are in keeping with others 1070's. Just ran the same benchmark on my PC with the 1060 in it now and got a sub 1000 score (900 something) so the 1070 even in an eGPU connected to a MacBook beats a custom built PC with a 1060 and a 4790K.

To get things working I did nothing... all I have to do is plug the GPU after boot selection. I tried apple_set_os.efi but that resulted in a flickering internal screen at desktop and no output on the LG.

I've played a few games and I am not convinced the upgrade from 1060>1070 was really worth it, I'm wondering if the 1060 6GB is the sweet spot for U class processors and anything else just bottlenecks, or it might be due to not connecting directly to the GPU.

Will be adding some pics and gaming benchmarks as I go. One thing of note, the LG does do W10 in 5K despite what folks have previously stated.

Edit: Since updating to Creators Fall edition and new drivers for both intel and Nvidia when 5K is selected the screen splits in two and goes crazy - so is unusable.

Edit 2: 5K appears to be working again... no idea how/why


Synthetic Benchmarks


1080 on the internal screen

1080 on internal as I couldn't get it to run on the LG display.


Gaming benchmarks


DayZ, 4K but only around 35fps.

Another game in 4K, and old one so not really much to go on, State of Decay 40-60fps on High settings.

Fallout 4, only 1440 this time but hovering around 60fps (sometimes over) on High settings. (The 1060 was about the same to be honest).

PUBG, mostly on High with AA and foliage on Low. Was over 60fps at times on EU server, 45-55 on AS.

Additional info: I played half a game on my 4K TV using the same settings but with the TV plugged directly into the GPU, frames varied a lot more than usual, dropping to 20's at times and hitting 80 the other end of the scale. Around 60fps was what I was seeing most the time, very little performance gain and much less stable fps.

Mad Max on Highest settings (very High preset).  Very solid 60fps.

Road Redemption - not a very visually demanding game, in fact it plays just fine without a GPU, but I was still getting 60fps with high settings at 5K

Rocket League, again not the most demanding but it's pretty popular, maxxed out FPS was hovering around 145!

Tom Clancy's Wildlands, this game performs the worst out of all I have tested but not as bad as I originally thought (I may have had the res wrong). 40-60 fps on high, usually around the higher end of that range. My desktop with i7 and 1060 performs about 20% better so CPU and TB3 causing bottlenecking here for sure.

GTA V, very high settings, nothing turned down (MMA only on x2 though) managed a solid 60fps. Tried in 5K and only managed around 20fps, 4K gave me 30+ fps prefer 60fps so not playing on higher than 1440.

Tom Clancy's The Division. These games are the worst of the bunch with numerous headaches. After updating drivers and Windows I'm getting a black screen on Wildlands but I can hear the game is functioning. Both have pretty terrible FPS too. Was managing little over 40 on medium @1440 here...

 

Metro Redux, Highest settings, over 60FPS @1440 and over 30 @4k, oh boy does this game look good. Going to spend a wintery month getting immersed in this.

Dying Light, high settings, 45-55fps, so a little disappointing IMO (although I also have a 2016 MBP with 455 and it was about 25fps on lower settings). This game feels a bit like the Tom Clancy ones so not sure if they are using the same tech hence similar FPS.

 


 And set up pic (I wish more people would do these! )

 

May-24-2018: updated setup pic:

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October 15, 2017 11:49 am  

Would you mind testing X-Plane 11?  http://www.x-plane.com/desktop/try-it/

The demo should run with the same performance as the full version. I have a spare GTX 980 and would like to try the Sonnet with it, and am of course curious to what the performance will be like (with Highish settings) before I buy the enclosure. I have a late 2016 13 MBP Touch, w/the upgraded i7.

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October 15, 2017 9:19 pm  

Just gave it a bash, I dont really know what I'm doing and it's quite a complicated sim/game but it looked to be running at 180ish FPS. Pretty sure native res and high settings. Not the best graphics though?

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October 19, 2017 1:49 pm  
Posted by: Eightarmedpet

Just gave it a bash, I dont really know what I'm doing and it's quite a complicated sim/game but it looked to be running at 180ish FPS. Pretty sure native res and high settings. Not the best graphics though?

Hey, thank you. Typically I'd expect anywhere from 30-40FPS with High/Ultra Settings in X-Plane 11, actually. It's a resource hog, but it would typically run well on a GTX 1070. So if you were seeing good performance then I guess that is a good sign. My Sonnet comes tomorrow, so I'll try it out with a GTX 980 and see how things go. Hopefully the install is as simple as yours was.


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November 5, 2017 3:26 pm  

I’ve played a few games and I am not convinced the upgrade from 1060>1070 was really worth it, I’m wondering if the 1060 6GB is the sweet spot for U class processors and anything else just bottlenecks, or it might be due to not connecting directly to the GPU.

So the 1080 with MacBook Pro 2017 i5 is overkill?


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December 9, 2017 12:51 pm  

Hi sorry for the belated reply. I haven't tested a 1080 but my feeling is it would be overkill... although if you are using a normal monitor connected to the GPU it might not be an issue. The 1060 is prob the sweet spot for my set up where the monitor has to be plugged into the laptop

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2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + [email protected] (Sonnet Breakaway Box) + Win10

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December 27, 2017 8:14 pm  

I got a notification that someone had asked if the eGPU was driving the LG display, but its not showing up in thread? Either way, incase it was unclear, yes the eGPU is driving the LG display even though its not plugged in directly to the GPU. 

So... eGPU > Laptop > LG display

Works a treat.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touchbar + [email protected] (AKiTiO Thunder3) + Win10
2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + [email protected] (Sonnet Breakaway Box) + Win10

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December 27, 2017 9:18 pm  

Improving my setup for X-Plane 11 is the 1st reason for which I bought an eGPU. I am using X-Plane since v3, and a private pilot in actual life.

My setup: MBP15" late 2016, RP460, sonnet eGFX 550W and MSI GTX1080 gaming. OS X 10.13.2 and the nvidia setup from this great forum. I have an apple 27" TB2 display but this one cannot be plugged into the GPU (no TB port from the gpu, and a simple DP -> miniDP is not working , the apple display requires a TB it seems :(. So my eGPU is currently connected to an old DELL in 1680 x 1050 native res.

The Heaven benchmark  improved in my case from about 25fps to 103fps (8xAA, Ultra, tessellation moderate), so about 4x better. But the Heaven bench is not a game/simulator. However, in X-Plane 11, I obtain at least double fps in populated area's like, eg, the demo area Seattle Tacoma, all GPU-demanding options to high, and cpu-demanding options to medium. Actually the cpu is now the bottleneck with that eGPU. But with GPU-demanding options to high or max (HDR rendering, 8x AA, textures etc), X-Plane looks definitely better and is flyable in populated areas.

 

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March 8, 2018 7:57 pm  

But just to clairify - connecting the 5k to the macbook on one Thunderbolt port, and the Sonnet to the other, does indeed accelerate MacOS? 

Been debating pulling the trigger on a Sonnet eGFX RX 570 for a while now... this might put me over the hump.


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October 23, 2018 10:37 pm  

Hi There,

How did you end up going with the EGPU and your mac with X-Plane 11?

Cheers
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October 24, 2018 1:51 pm  

@nickpeters @eightarmedpet It works great. I ran X Plane 11 on Windows 10 in Boot Camp. I used a GTX 1070 and was able to run High settings with 4x AA at 1080p and lower AA at 4K with good results - FPS 30-60 depending on scenery, aircraft, plugins, etc. The biggest issue with any MBP is going to be CPU bottlenecking, which is what happened to me. The eGPU is great, and makes X Plane 11 playable with pretty high settings most of the time...but if you use a lot of CPU heavy plugins or aircraft, you will bottleneck the CPU and no matter how good your GPU is it won't help. So just keep that in mind. XP11 is also mostly single thread, so CPU frequency boost is most important...my 2 core i7 would max out at around 3.5Ghz due to temp throttling. But if your MBP can do better, then FPS will be better the higher that boost clock can go...


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