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2016 13" Dell XPS 13 9360 [7th,2C,U] + RP WX 5100 @ 16Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station...
 

2016 13" Dell XPS 13 9360 [7th,2C,U] + RP WX 5100 @ 16Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station 2) + Win10 [R-Marked] // cinema display  

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Hi Guys,

I got my XPS 13 9360 working with XG Station 2. Even though Intel software still reports that external graphics cards are not supported.

  • Intel Thunderbolt 3 NVM 21, downloaded from the US website. Finnish website did not have this yet available.
  • Asus ROG XG Station firmware version 25 released just a few weeks ago.

After this everything just worked and there hasn't been any larger issues. I'm still testing for if wake up is normal every time, but overall general use is working.

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Hi R-Marked,

- What AMD driver are you using?

- have you updates your laptop's system BIOS?  http://www.dell.com/support/home/ca/en/cabsdt1/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=8C84P

- are you seeing any sleep related issues? Crimson 17.6.1/2 has a fix for that (sleep related issues on 9360), but that driver only applies only to consumer cards (like RX /R9).

Please let me know.

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Hi OP, do you have problem with the plasma tube, my one is dead after two days.

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Hi,

the AMD FirePro driver is version 17.Q2.1 / Driver Packaging Version 17.10.1730.1004-170605a-315017C-RadeonProEnterprise.
Recovering from sleep is ok, but hibernation causes a crash.

Two things that bugged me, first was the USB-C gen2 cable is short, I had to buy a longer one for my setup. It's only 90 cm long due to gen2 specs. And you have to know that  is needs to be gen2, it's not clearly stated anywhere. I got the answer from Asus support after a few emails. This whole USB-C/TB3 thing is awesome but still very messy. Only few resellers/customers really know what they are selling/buying.

The other thing is the power button location. I like to shutdown everything for the night, but it's not really easy or convenient when the power button is inside the enclosure.

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Hi,

my plasma tube is still ok after a week. But I really don't mind it, I'd rather not have it at all.

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Hi,

the AMD FirePro driver is version 17.Q2.1 / Driver Packaging Version 17.10.1730.1004-170605a-315017C-RadeonProEnterprise.
Recovering from sleep is ok, but hibernation causes a crash.

Two things that bugged me, first was the USB-C gen2 cable is short, I had to buy a longer one for my setup. It's only 90 cm long due to gen2 specs. And you have to know that  is needs to be gen2, it's not clearly stated anywhere. I got the answer from Asus support after a few emails. This whole USB-C/TB3 thing is awesome but still very messy. Only few resellers/customers really know what they are selling/buying.

The other thing is the power button location. I like to shutdown everything for the night, but it's not really easy or convenient when the power button is inside the enclosure.

Hello, I have good news for you: the fix for hibernation crash is coming - new FirePro driver with the fix will posted sometime in July (I will post the driver here on the forum as well)

Longer Thunderbolt3 cables are available, but a still pricey and not easy to get. Here is one I ordered (2M long), waiting for it to arrive:  http://www.caldigit.com/Thunderbolt-3-USB-C-Type-C-Charge-Cable/#Thunderbolt3

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Posted by: Sky11

Hello, I have good news for you: the fix for hibernation crash is coming - new FirePro driver with the fix will posted sometime in July (I will post the driver here on the forum as well)

Longer Thunderbolt3 cables are available, but a still pricey and not easy to get. Here is one I ordered (2M long), waiting for it to arrive:  http://www.caldigit.com/Thunderbolt-3-USB-C-Type-C-Charge-Cable/#Thunderbolt3

Hi,

I think that this problem needs some new firmwares to be solved. When I press the power button on the XPS when hibernation is activated, nothing happens. Everything just freezes. I need to unplug the tb cable from the XPS and then long press on the XPS power button. After this Windows will ask if it needs to do some problem solving or just a restart.

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- Have you update your laptop's system BIOS?   http://www.dell.com/support/home/ca/en/cabsdt1/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=8C84P

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Posted by: Sky11

- Have you update your laptop's system BIOS?   http://www.dell.com/support/home/ca/en/cabsdt1/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=8C84P

Yep, I have installed the latest bios update from Dell.

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Thats good. I have no ASUS XG2 so I cannot check what you are seeing. New driver will posted in a month, and I know for sure that for consumer cards like regular RX5xx, Crimson 17.6.1  resolved BSOD issue when you try to resume from hibernation.

As a temporary workaround, I suggest you to disable hibernation is OS settings - sleep should work; am I right?

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Hi Guys,

I got my XPS 13 9360 working with XG Station 2. Even though Intel software still reports that external graphics cards are not supported.

  • Intel Thunderbolt 3 NVM 21, downloaded from the US website. Finnish website did not have this yet available.
  • Asus ROG XG Station firmware version 25 released just a few weeks ago.

After this everything just worked and there hasn't been any larger issues. I'm still testing for if wake up is normal every time, but overall general use is working.

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Hi! does it work? do you work with 3D applications? did you test that card with SPECviewperf 12.1?

 

here some benchmarks for a comparison

http://techgage.com/article/amd-radeon-pro-wx-5100-wx-4100-workstation-gpu-review/4/

 

 

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Here are the benchmark results from Specviewperf 12.1

Specviewperf

For comparison:

AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100 WX 4100 SPECviewperf 12

Comparison Excel

I think that the results are excellent. Especially when compared to the test setup of Asus X99, i7-5960X, 16GB. That's a full desktop and I'm using an ultrabook.

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Posted by: R-Marked

Here are the benchmark results from Specviewperf 12.1

Specviewperf

For comparison:

AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100 WX 4100 SPECviewperf 12

Comparison Excel

I think that the results are excellent. Especially when compared to the test setup of Asus X99, i7-5960X, 16GB. That's a full desktop and I'm using an ultrabook.

thanks for your tests! these infos are really useful 🙂

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R-Marked, as I promised there is a new AMD Graphics driver posted - Radeon Pro Software Enterprise 17.Q3   http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/workstation?os=Windows%2010%20-%2064#pro-driver

Please uninstall your old driver before installing the new one.

P.S. The specific bug fix for XPS13 is not mentioned, but there is some cool stuff here:   https://pro.radeon.com/en-us/delivering-power-efficiency-improved-performance-radeon-pro-software-enterprise-driver-17-q3/

 

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