2018 13.3" DELL XPS 13 9370 + [email protected] (Aorus Gaming Box) + WIN10 [B. van Luijk]  

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June 11, 2018 8:48 pm  

Hello, this build guide is a work in progress.
After lurking on this website and forum, I decided to go for the Aorus Gaming Box GTX 1080. I tried it with different ultraportables and am now using it with the DELL XPS 13 9370 (the chosen one). Feel free to ask me what you would like to know or have tested.

System specs

  • 2018 XPS 13 9370
  • 13.3" 4K IPS screen
  • Intel i5-8250u
  • 8 GB dualchannel RAM 1866MHz
  • Intel UHD 620
  • Windows 10 Home 1803


eGPU hardware


Hardware pictures 

Will follow later


Installation steps

Installation is on one hand very simple once you installed all drivers. Most important is to install the sofware from gigabyte, then windows soon finds new hardware (the GPU) and starts downloading the drivers. I updated all drivers manually via NVidia's site. It all takes a few restarts and the it works great.
On the other hand: I find the AGB still a bit finnicky: sometimes it works right away, other times I have to enable the graphics card in de control panel. Also, when I plug a TB3 cable/peripheral into the laptop, sometimes the AGB software starts up. I also have the LED failure message, tried the copy the other LED software from aorus, but decided to wait till gigabyte fixes it with a new update. It is best to look from time to time on the website, because not always the sofware updates itself.
The USB ports on the AGB are not thrustworthy when you update the firmware. When the AGB becomes more stressed and warm, the connection gets lost. That's not good when you have your controllers plugged in.
I undervolt my processor which makes the turbos last longer and the laptop cooler.


Benchmarks

My AIDa64 & Cuda-Z bandwidth, Cuda-Z and HWinfo:

Underneath you find a comparison between a Dell 7577 (1060 Qmax), HP Spectre 13 and Lenovo Yoga 920. I also had an AGB 1070 and have some benchmarks from this. Tested on internal screen (4K) and external screen (2560*1080/1920*1080).


Comments 

I think for me coming from a 15.6" laptop with a Radeon 8850 (Dell Latitude 3540) my gaming setup has improved. Gaming is great on the internal 4K screen with relative low worknoise. I'am aware that by doing this the framerate takes a big hit compared with using an external screen, but with the power of the GTX 1080 I don't mind. Playing racinggames with my sons on the wide external screen is also an improvement: I don't need the steam link, but just use a long HDMI cable. Perfect for a minimalist. Most of the time I don't need the AGB and thats when the portability of the XPS 13 comes in handy: writing film reviews in the train or just taking the laptop into the garden. The included bag from the AGB keeps the AGB safe and looks clean.


Future
In the future I plan on buying a longer active TB3 cable (2m). Steve from Own or Disown mentions something like this could solve the bottleneck of the AGB. In his comparison with a different EGPU, the other one has a better (active?) cable. I would like to test if a better/active cable also will result in better benchmarks.
I'm also planning on buying a new external screen. I tried a 3440*1440 IPS ultra wide screen but was not satisfied. I watch a lot of movies and the 21*9 ratio is great for that. So now I wish for a 5k ultrawide screen (like the LG 34WK95U-W).

Dell XPS13 9370 8250U 8GB UHD & EGPU: Gigabyte Aorus GB GTX1080 8GB
Dell Latitude 3540 4200U 8GB FHD & IGP: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2GB


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FiveNines
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June 13, 2018 7:01 am  

Hi, recently posted a similar set up (9370 and 1080gtx AGB) - how are you finding the heat dissipation from the laptop when gaming? Do use the laptop in a docked set up wher piping to external or run with 2 screens up?

Dell XPS 13" 9370 (2018 version), i7-8550U, 16GB, Aorus Gaming Box w/GTX 1080 (GV-N1080IXEB-8GD)


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June 14, 2018 8:06 am  

Thank you for your question! I have my laptop on a stand and only use one screen when playing (so: external or internal). I'm really surprised on how this little laptop handles the heat: I have no problems at all. I also have to try it with undervolting via XTU (-0.850 CPU and -0.550 GPU are stable for me), but the undervolts keep resetting every time I reboot.
BTW I saw that you have the 9370 with the 8850U, maybe that gets warmer? When looking at benchmarks I saw that the 8250U was sometimes better, so I got that one. My only wish was that they would have one with 16GB. Do you have any other benchmarks? I'm curious on how the CPU might make a difference. In my testing with other laptops with the 8850U, I found that how the laptop was setup was more important (lanes, CPU clocking etc).

Dell XPS13 9370 8250U 8GB UHD & EGPU: Gigabyte Aorus GB GTX1080 8GB
Dell Latitude 3540 4200U 8GB FHD & IGP: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2GB


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June 14, 2018 8:53 am  

Thanks for the reply!

To be honest I hadn’t considered temperature when making the purchase and got swept up with more speed! More memory! Higher res! Etc etc

I’m happy to run further benchmarks! The only reason I’ve completed the cuda-z because there was link to it on this site (I’m quite paranoid about downloading executables off the net hehe).

Dell XPS 13" 9370 (2018 version), i7-8550U, 16GB, Aorus Gaming Box w/GTX 1080 (GV-N1080IXEB-8GD)


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Hdjekso
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October 11, 2018 4:28 am  

Hi, is 8GB of ram enough for gaming with this setup? Will it bottleneck the performance of the AGB GTX 1080? Thanks!

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October 11, 2018 8:00 am  
Posted by: Hdjekso

Hi, is 8GB of ram enough for gaming with this setup? Will it bottleneck the performance of the AGB GTX 1080? Thanks!

Well, it depends, it depends. When gaming I don't feel it holding back the AGb 1080, but I think it will depend on the sort of game you play. You can find on youtube comparisons between different amounts of RAM, they mostly say that 8 GB would be fine. But I think that in the future, games will use more RAM. All said and done: I think I have enough RAM for my gamingneeds. Teh only think that came in my mind when choosing between 8 or 16GB was the higher clockrates of the 16GB, but the better performance of the 8250 vs the 8550 made me decide for the 8GB version of the XPS13. Hope this helps.

Dell XPS13 9370 8250U 8GB UHD & EGPU: Gigabyte Aorus GB GTX1080 8GB
Dell Latitude 3540 4200U 8GB FHD & IGP: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2GB


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October 12, 2018 8:10 am  

Thanks for the reply, were there any instances where you felt like there wasn't enough ram? If so, which game were you playing?

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October 13, 2018 7:59 am  
Posted by: Hdjekso

Thanks for the reply, were there any instances where you felt like there wasn't enough ram? If so, which game were you playing?

No, I haven't had any games where I thought that the RAM was the bottleneck. But when I encounter one I will report back. In the information above you can find some of the games I tested.

Dell XPS13 9370 8250U 8GB UHD & EGPU: Gigabyte Aorus GB GTX1080 8GB
Dell Latitude 3540 4200U 8GB FHD & IGP: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2GB


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November 28, 2018 6:12 pm  

@mdfanatic

Do you have the aida benchmarks for this setup? 

I tried today the dell 9370 with the gaming box rx580 and i got the attache so i would like to compare. Thanks. one of the benchmarks is with the caldigit active 2m cable the other two are the apple 0.8 (the half finished benchmark) and the other the gigabyte cable. 

A. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb

B. 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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November 30, 2018 10:24 pm  

I will back with you with my aida results. From your results it seems that the 2m active cable won't give more bandwith. Luckily it also doesn't limit bandwith.

Dell XPS13 9370 8250U 8GB UHD & EGPU: Gigabyte Aorus GB GTX1080 8GB
Dell Latitude 3540 4200U 8GB FHD & IGP: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2GB


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December 2, 2018 3:53 pm  
Posted by: tsakal

@mdfanatic

Do you have the aida benchmarks for this setup? 

I tried today the dell 9370 with the gaming box rx580 and i got the attache so i would like to compare. Thanks. one of the benchmarks is with the caldigit active 2m cable the other two are the apple 0.8 (the half finished benchmark) and the other the gigabyte cable. 

Here are my results. Seems like they are quite a bit higher. Maybe the active cable will make a difference with these througputs? Measured with cable provided with Gaming Box: 0.5m passive.

Dell XPS13 9370 8250U 8GB UHD & EGPU: Gigabyte Aorus GB GTX1080 8GB
Dell Latitude 3540 4200U 8GB FHD & IGP: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2GB


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December 8, 2018 11:12 am  

Hi there. 

Thanks for the post. It really helps.
Because I am thinking to buy the same too.

But I still have a budget problem.
Should I wait a couple of more month, saving my money to buy gaming box with gtx 1080, or should I get the cheaper ones?
I do apprechiate the details while gaming, so I didnt mind waiting  a little bit longer. I just worried if there are any bottle neck with it that makes buying 1080 is not as worth it as buying 1070 or the rx580. 

Cheers 🙂

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December 8, 2018 11:27 am  
Posted by: armedzerox

Hi there. 

Thanks for the post. It really helps.
Because I am thinking to buy the same too.

But I still have a budget problem.
Should I wait a couple of more month, saving my money to buy gaming box with gtx 1080, or should I get the cheaper ones?
I do apprechiate the details while gaming, so I didnt mind waiting  a little bit longer. I just worried if there are any bottle neck with it that makes buying 1080 is not as worth it as buying 1070 or the rx580. 

Cheers 🙂

I was choosing between the 1070 and 1080 too. While the price difference was about 100 euro's I thought it would be the best to go for the 1080. For me it depends on what sort of games you play. I like the slower detailrich games over the fast ones. Fast ones you could also play in 1080p and then i think the 1070 is good enough. While I play mostly on the internal 4k screen, I have some bandwithloss, thats why I have chosen the 1080. I thought the 580 was positioned underneath the 1070 performancewise. Well, when I was looking for an egpu gigabyte didn't have the 580.
I have the 1080 now for six months and never regretted it. Plays smoothly and is really compact.
Hope this helps. Let me know if I can test something for you.

Dell XPS13 9370 8250U 8GB UHD & EGPU: Gigabyte Aorus GB GTX1080 8GB
Dell Latitude 3540 4200U 8GB FHD & IGP: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2GB


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