2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 [OliverB] // Radeon VII vs GTX 1080 Ti  

1. Workload and computing benchmarks.

a) GPGPU

b) LuxMark, GeekBench and SPECviewperf13

	Radeon VII	GTX 1080 Ti
GeekBench OpenCL

c) Comments:
- The raw calculation numbers of Radeon VII are much better than the GTX 1080 Ti. Especially the double float performance is impressive. Scientific programs like numeric simulations will profit immensely by this.
- Luxmark profits most of this "computing power".
- Amazingly in "application benchmarks", the GTX1080Ti looks equal, if not better.
- Interesting note for benchmark "SNX-03" of SPECviewperf13: This is very slow on both cards, nVidia Quadro K6000 scores with 150 (vs. 14 or 16) here. See also here.
- I haven't posted any Video codec benchmarks, because I haven't solved the mystery yet, why AMD eGPU don't use full GPU power when encoding. See also here. nVidia with NVENC is the winner here in any case.

Tie: 1 - 1

2. Synthetic Benchmarks

	Radeon VII	GTX 1080 Ti
Unigine Valley Extreme HD
Unigine Superposition 1440p Extreme
3dMark Time Spy
3dMark Firestrike
3dMark 11

C0mments:
- This is another tie: 1 - 1

Hi @OliverB, before running gaming benchmarks. I’ve questions, I saw this also on several benchmarks that MacBook Pro physical score is pretty low. Is that Apple EC firmware setting or cpu thermal throttling happens during benchmarks. 8850 that has higher frequency clock than  8750H theoretically should perform better. Maybe by undervolting it’ll be better?
Good side as always MacBook Pro 15 graphics score is decent compared Laptops with dgpu, I’ve headache catching that
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6594762
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16420889
Edit: for dx12 update i think i saw in nvidia Forum that Radeon VII will update for better performance like on timespy, maybe you want to check that as well.

3. Gaming Benchmarks

External display: Resolution 2560 x 1440, Max details, typical AA
Internal display: Resolution 2880 x 1800, Max details, No AA

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Comments:

- There is a clear winner: The GTX 1080 Ti
- It has to been noted that the EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 is an overclocked card, while the Radeon VII is reference.
- I removed "Alien Isolation" and "Resident Evil 6" from the Average. With them the result was 86.8 to 100.
- The results often do not reflect benchmarks of Desktop PC. It looks as Radeon VII has more FPS drops in eGPU setups.
- The first five titles a major and current, so benchmarks on the internal display have been made, too.
- All titles have built-in benchmarks, I am looking to add some others.

Great posts @oliverb ! Unless I’m reading them wrong (hey it’s possible!) the VII is pretty much on par with a 1080ti, lagging a bit in gaming but ahead in other tasks. I wonder how much extra gaming performance Wattman could get out of the card? My Vega 56 once tweaked gained 10+ FPS in all the games I tried it in.

Posted by: Eightarmedpet

Great posts @oliverb ! Unless I’m reading them wrong (hey it’s possible!) the VII is pretty much on par with a 1080ti, lagging a bit in gaming but ahead in other tasks. I wonder how much extra gaming performance Wattman could get out of the card? My Vega 56 once tweaked gained 10+ FPS in all the games I tried it in.

@eightarmedpet, thank you. I haven't tried a lot tweaking with Wattman yet, once I click "Auto undervolting" and the system crashed, aha. lol
Don't have the time, but I will keep one Radeon VII for at least 14 days and want to try it. (I am having two RadeonVIIs at this moment, running perfectly in a Asus XG Station Pro, which will be for sale in the next weeks, does Asus give me a bonus for doing this?) 

To be fair, in brand-new titles the Radeon VII looks much better than in older title. I tested some new titles like Resident Evil 2 Remake and Dreamfall Chapter with MSI Afterburner and that was amazing:. Highest Settings 1440p more than 135 FPS.
But: Everytime the Radeon VII is performing great, it's getting very loud on load, about 57 dbA on 20 cm distance and open enclosure. That is said just for information, because I always said I don't care about some noise on load when the thing is silent on idle work and it is silent then.

@oliverb I think for testing sake you should send me one Asus enclosure and one Vega VII so I can independently verify it’s performance. 

Im happy to do this for free. I’ll pm you my details 😉

(on a serious note- still interested in the enclosure).

@eightarmedpet,  hehe,

the second Asus enclosure will be for sale, that is 100%, the day Asus service, aka fools, is returning the one where they have to change the power cables.

Are you planning to buy a Radeon VII? How much are they in UK? Here you won't get nothing under 750 EUR. :/ (That was a double negative, hehe)

I am tempted by the VII but realistically it would be overkill for my 2017 dual core MacBook so I’m going to try and hold off for Navi and see what that brings. 
I have just bought a node lite to put a tb3 card in to accelerate my 5k directly which will keep me busy for a bit...