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rubycrow
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System specs (model inc screen size, CPU, iGPU, dGPU, operating system)

- MacBook Pro 15" (2018)
- 2.9 GHz Intel Core i9 CPU (i9-8950HK) 
- Intel UHD 630 iGPU, AMD Vega 20 dGPU
- Windows 10 (& MacOS (not using with eGPU))

eGPU hardware (eGPU enclosure, video card, any third-party TB3 cable, any custom mods)

- Akitio Node Pro (with metal shield removed to fit EVGA 3-slot card)
- EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3
- External Display (LG 27UD68)

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Installation steps (what did you do to get it all going?)

EVGA changed their graphic card design this year with the RTX 20 series cards to have 3-slot wide on all their cards with more than 2-slot wide cooler. 


I purchased a FTW3 and a Razer Core X without worrying too much about compatibility as the length of the card is only 301.925mm (1.89in) according to EVGA. However, although Razer Core X does fit cards with 3-slot wide coolers, they did not leave enough space for the 3-slot bracket. The card can be put into the PCI-E slot in an angle but the bracket will not mount with the screws. I almost destroyed the PCI-E fingers trying to get the card to fit.

No other enclosure on the market officially supports 3-slot bracket and people had to do significant modification to fit EVGA's 2-slot bracket (designed for waterblock only) on the 3-slot card. However, thanks to itsage's awesome review and disassembly pictures ( https://egpu.io/akitio-node-pro-review-jack-of-all-trades/), Akitio Node Pro not only has the same mounting design (mount inside of the box instead of outside like a Sonnet Breakbox) that allows the bracket to extend over 2 slots, but itsage also mentioned that the Node Pro has a lot more enough room left even after installing a 2.5 slot card. So I bought one.

However, the metal shield that covers the PCI-E slot board also covers the space to put the 3rd leg of the 3-slot bracket. So I had to remove the shield and basically have the PCB hanging on top of the bottom stand-offs as well as the tension of the 2 PCI-E slots (one for the thunderbolt 3 board and one for the graphic card)

Thanks to guide from Yukikaze ( https://egpu.io/forums/psu-cables/akitio-node-pro-power-supply-replacement-guide/), taking the enclosure apart was very easy.

Once the card is secured by the 2 screws on the bracket, the entire thing only wiggles a little bit. I might end up buying some bolts to actually screw in the stand-offs so the far side of the PCB is secured.

Not going to go into details about setting up the software side as there are plenty guides on how to get bootcamp working with Nvidia GPUs. Even EVGA Precision X1 works!


Benchmarks 
(Include a  CUDA-Z  or  AIDA64  bandwidth pic. Optional: Valley, 3dmark, noting if it's on internal/external LCD )

All benchmarks done in Boot Camp Windows 10 1809 with Nvidia Driver 417.35 using external monitor

Synthetic:

Games:
World of Warships (The game I play the most. I could only get 40fps without AA on the desktop with AMD Fury X I had, now it's hitting 60-70fps with everything to max)

Comments (eg: how has the eGPU improved your workflow or gaming)

4K 60fps used to be just a dream, and I never dare to have the thought about having a laptop that does 7-hour without charging on the go and can game at 4K 60fps at home. Not a smooth experience having to go through all the stuff above, the result is well worth it. Hopefully some company can make a 3-slot compatible enclosure soon that is as well built as the Node Pro but with 100w charging and 650w PSU like the Razer Core X.

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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OliverB
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@rubycrow, thank you for your post. Please post some benchmarks from your system. Gaming as well as synthetics. Thank you.

Opinion: 4k60 FPS can be achieved with ta GTX1080Ti, too, and it's much better supported, especially you have possibilities under MacOSX, too.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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AIDA64 GPGPU benchmark somehow won't show my 2080 Ti so I don't have that yet.

I have a slow internet and this is new set up and I don't actually play the big titles that are usually used as benchmarks. I will post CS:GO and World of Warships/World of Tanks FPS shortly but I doubt that means anything.

For 4K 60fps, I don't have a G-Sync monitor as I came from an AMD card. From what I've seen, 1080 Ti can only do on avg 58fps on ultra which is not 60fps for my use case. However, 2080 ti can do 75fps in a desktop so 2080 Ti is the only true 4k 60fps especially in an eGPU.

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Posted by: rubycrow

 

For 4K 60fps, I don't have a G-Sync monitor as I came from an AMD card. From what I've seen, 1080 Ti can only do on avg 58fps on ultra which is not 60fps for my use case. However, 2080 ti can do 75fps in a desktop so 2080 Ti is the only true 4k 60fps especially in an eGPU.

Which game are you talking about?

I can assure you with 100% guarantee, that on settings where you get 58FPS with the GTX1080Ti, you will never get 75FPS with the 2080Ti. Of course, we are talking about eGPU Setups. I have tested both cards for weeks, have a look at my particular builds!

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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You can get a 2-slot back plate from EVGA.

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=M022-10-000130

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2017 27" iMac 5K (RP580) [7th,4C,K] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Sonnet Breakaway 550) + Win10 [build link]  

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@Jyin According to EVGA staff, the 2-slot bracket is intended for the HydroCopper water block only and will not fit any of the 3-slot cooler unless you bend or cut the lip.
https://forums.evga.com/Anyone-using-the-2slot-bracket-with-the-FTW3-m2886294.aspx

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@OliverB 
You can see that on most of the games tested, even on a desktop setup, the 1080 Ti is barely making 4k 60fps which makes eGPU 4k 60fps impossible. However, 2080 Ti has a 5-10fps room above 60. I am also getting  12 033 (70fps) in Time Spy compared to your 8866 on your 1080 Ti.

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Posted by: rubycrow

@OliverB 
You can see that on most of the games tested, even on a desktop setup, the 1080 Ti is barely making 4k 60fps which makes eGPU 4k 60fps impossible. However, 2080 Ti has a 5-10fps room above 60. I am also getting  12 033 (70fps) in Time Spy compared to your 8866 on your 1080 Ti.

You are comparing apples with pears. First, the video has little to do with eGPU performances, it's made with a desktop computer. Then  why would you compare *your* TimeSpy Score with *my* TimeSpy score? Of course you have to compare the GPU with with
1) Same game
2) Same computer
3) Same eGPU enclosure.
4) Same settings.

Finally TimeSpy is a most synthetic benchmark and has little to do with the real world.

PS: How old are you, if I may ask?
PPS: You haven't answered to my question, to which game you are referring that the GTX1080Ti makes 58FPS while the RTX2080Ti makes 75FPS on a eGPU setup?

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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Talking about synthetic benchmarks, you may be interested in the GTX1080Ti benchmarks of Unigine Valley Extreme HD, the RTX2080Ti Score is hardly better:

ValleyWin10GTX1080TiDX11

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
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Posted by: OliverB
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@OliverB 
You can see that on most of the games tested, even on a desktop setup, the 1080 Ti is barely making 4k 60fps which makes eGPU 4k 60fps impossible. However, 2080 Ti has a 5-10fps room above 60. I am also getting  12 033 (70fps) in Time Spy compared to your 8866 on your 1080 Ti.

You are comparing apples with pears. First, the video has little to do with eGPU performances, it's made with a desktop computer. Then  why would you compare *your* TimeSpy Score with *my* TimeSpy score? Of course you have to compare the GPU with with
1) Same game
2) Same computer
3) Same eGPU enclosure.
4) Same settings.

Finally TimeSpy is a most synthetic benchmark and has little to do with the real world.

PS: How old are you, if I may ask?
PPS: You haven't answered to my question, to which game you are referring that the GTX1080Ti makes 58FPS while the RTX2080Ti makes 75FPS on a eGPU setup?

I am not sure what have triggered you into even asking my age. I am 29 just in case you are wondering.
I did not intend to argue with you on anything, and I didn't even care about benchmarking and mentioned my reason in the original post. You asked where I based my comment on and I sent you the information I had that made me into coming to my own conclusion. You said 1080 Ti perform the same so I ran Time Spy and mentioned the difference. You mentioned Time Spy is not a good benchmark so I ran Valley but you did not post a 4k result for me to compare. The 1080p result really means nothing to me as I know cpu/thunderbolt bottlenecks in high fps even more and has nothing to do with my intended usage. I know you are a well established member here, if the community is like what you have demonstrated, I am start to wondering why I spent the time making the post letting people know how to fit a 3-slot card into an enclosure.

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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