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rubycrow
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And now you are just asking an impossible question for me to answer. I never said I know there is a game that will run 58 fps on 1080 Ti and 75 fps on 2080 Ti and I won't be able to answer as I don't own a 1080 Ti. I said from the benchmark I saw (aka the YouTube video I sent you), 1080 Ti on average is 10-20 frames slower than a RTX 2080 Ti which makes a 1080 Ti not hitting the 60fps mark while 2080 Ti exceeding that mark based on the rough 20% performance drop in eGPU.

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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OliverB
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Do you have a video/link where games are being compared between GTX1080Ti and RTX2080Ti in a eGPU setup (not Desktop)?

PS: Your setup is super-interesting, that's why I am very curious about it in details.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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rubycrow
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Posted by: OliverB

Do you have a video/link where games are being compared between GTX1080Ti and RTX2080Ti in a eGPU setup (not Desktop)?

PS: Your setup is super-interesting, that's why I am very curious about it in details.

Unfortunately I do not. My decisions to make this build and assumptions mentioned earlier were all based on desktop benchmark results I saw from YouTube videos and other tech sites.

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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OliverB
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Posted by: rubycrow
Posted by: OliverB

Do you have a video/link where games are being compared between GTX1080Ti and RTX2080Ti in a eGPU setup (not Desktop)?

PS: Your setup is super-interesting, that's why I am very curious about it in details.

Unfortunately I do not. My decisions to make this build and assumptions mentioned earlier were all based on desktop benchmark results I saw from YouTube videos and other tech sites.

It's a pity that there is very little to find about eGPU Benchmarks. eGPUs perform really quite well for 60FPS compared to desktops.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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rubycrow
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Posted by: OliverB
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Posted by: OliverB

Do you have a video/link where games are being compared between GTX1080Ti and RTX2080Ti in a eGPU setup (not Desktop)?

PS: Your setup is super-interesting, that's why I am very curious about it in details.

Unfortunately I do not. My decisions to make this build and assumptions mentioned earlier were all based on desktop benchmark results I saw from YouTube videos and other tech sites.

It's a pity that there is very little to find about eGPU Benchmarks. eGPUs perform really quite well for 60FPS compared to desktops.

Absolutely, and thank you for your contribution to the community. Without people like you and itsage and other members who dedicate time to inform people about eGPU, I would probably still be struggling with fitting a desktop in my suitcase when I travel. Please keep up the good work.

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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jerry Kansai
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@rubycrow @OliverB, I found also on some games like Battlefront 2 and destiny 2, GTA V FPS in 4K is significantly different between rtx2080ti 1080ti, similar with desktop setting around 30% different, on Battlefront 2 is similar with desktop 2080ti FPS. I tried all RTX cards, and for my setting, the best value for the price for performance was actually 1080ti if I get it again for €650 new which is impossible here. €520 rtx2070 that now I’m using is great value as it can mostly play 1440p with respectable FPS, I play even on some titles like AC Odyssey and FIFA in ultrawide 5xxxp x 1440p on dual monitor nvidia surrounds that take advantage on that viewing mode.
Rtx cards if comparing to similar raw performance like 2080 to 1080ti, will take advantages on dx12 titles, it can be proofed from timespy, dx12 it’s benchmarks tool.
From timespy score above I can only say there’s cpu bottleneck happens or thermal throttling that made i9 physical score lower than my 8750H on MacBook Pro 15 2018, I think 8850H should also perform better than lower clocked 8750H. 
Here some 3Dmark timespy comparison and mrsp or price I bought without discount from store or amazon.
8750H Asus Turbo 2080ti €1169
8750H evga xc 2080 €890
 8750H evga Black 2070 €520
7700HQ Evga 1080 ftw2 €550
8750H Zotac Mini 1080ti €650
 Unless 4K is your only aimed resolution, rtx2070 is actually great value for its performance on 1440p. I saw even other cheaper brands lower the 2070 price to under €500 recently, OC gpu version may be higher but on egpu setting with limited PSU like on my core v2, I can’t anyway get OC value as well as desktop setting.

Razer Blade 15 2018, i7 8750H 16gb ddr4 2666mhz 1tb 970Evo
Razer Blade Stealth 12,5 2016 i7 7500U 8gb ddr3 1866mhz 500gb 970Evo
MacBook Pro 13 mid 2012 i5 3210M 12gb ddr3 1600mhz 500GB HDD
Razer Core V2 rtx 2070 Black 2040mhz Boost clock
Previous setting: rtx 2080ti Asus Turbo, rtx 2080 xc gaming, rtx 2080 Fe, Zotac Mini 1080ti, Evga 1080 FTW2 gaming.
Dual Monitor Predator XB241YU 165Hz 1440p, LG l24UD58 60Hz 4K
Portable Monitor Magedok 1440p HDR 60Hz usbA/C monitor

 
2016 12" Razer Blade Stealth [7th,2C,U] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V2) + Win10 1803 [build link]  


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rubycrow
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@Joikansai Thank you very much for sharing. I am totally aware that the 1080 Ti has way better value than 2080 Ti as majority of Youtube tech reviewers been suggesting that 2080 Ti's performance gain is not significant enough for the cost increase. However, unfortunately, 1080 Ti is impossible to find brand new with reasonable cost anymore in the US, and majority of the used market came from crypto mining. Not that I think mining will do that much on the card as most people believe, most company do not provide warranty if the proof of original purchase is lost. So I ended up getting an 2080 Ti because EVGA had them back in stock under their MSRP.

Yes. Looks like the i9 thermal problem was never fixed by Apple and the Macbook Pro thermal design is indeed not enough for the boost clock. I only got the i9 model thinking it may bottle neck the GPU less due to the higher base clock, but I guess I am wrong on this one.

I also completely agreed that due to the bottleneck around thuenderbolt 3, RTX 2070 is the best valued 20 series card hands down (TBH, compared to 10 series card, the entire 20 series is not that well priced, I believe may be a 1070 Ti is even better for its value). However, the last graphic card I had was an AMD Fury X, a 2070 / 1070 Ti really does not post much of an upgrade compared to that card, especially in 4K.

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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OliverB
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Posted by: Joikansai

@rubycrow @OliverB, I found also on some games like Battlefront 2 and destiny 2, GTA V FPS in 4K is significantly different between rtx2080ti 1080ti, similar with desktop setting around 30% different, on Battlefront 2 is similar with desktop 2080ti FPS. 

@Joikansai, That's not the same result I had with both cards. There is gain was only about 10%, you can lookup these results here:
https://egpu.io/forums/builds/2018-15-macbook-pro-rp560x-rtx2080ti32gbps-tb3-asus-xg-station-pro-macos10-13-6-win10-oliverb

The only significant differences were in the synthetic DirectX 12 benchmarks (TimeSpy and Superposition). In the "real world", that means current Direct11 games there is hardly any difference. Some games very even worse. This problem was not only bound to games, the most important application for me is the encoding of videos with HEVC codec. There the GTX1080Ti is better, too. I get 650 FPS encoding a 720p video with the GTX1080Ti, while the RTX2080Ti can do about 550FPS.

That was quite disappointing and I returned the RTX2080Ti

It's very possible that in the future there will more games that support DirectX 12 or even DLSS and Raytracing the value gets better. But now, this doesn't seem to be true for eGPU setups.

 

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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Jyin
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Posted by: rubycrow

@Jyin According to EVGA staff, the 2-slot bracket is intended for the HydroCopper water block only and will not fit any of the 3-slot cooler unless you bend or cut the lip.
https://forums.evga.com/Anyone-using-the-2slot-bracket-with-the-FTW3-m2886294.aspx

Interesting.
The web site claims otherwise.

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2017 27" iMac 5K (RP580) [7th,4C,K] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Sonnet Breakaway 550) + Win10 [build link]  

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rubycrow
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Posted by: Jyin
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@Jyin According to EVGA staff, the 2-slot bracket is intended for the HydroCopper water block only and will not fit any of the 3-slot cooler unless you bend or cut the lip.
https://forums.evga.com/Anyone-using-the-2slot-bracket-with-the-FTW3-m2886294.aspx

Interesting.
The web site claims otherwise.

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If you check out the link you will see multiple people bought 2-slot bracket thinking exactly the same. According to EVGA, the bracket is indeed compatible with FTW3 but only after installing the Hydro Copper water block.

2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RTX 2080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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