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2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + RX Vega 64 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.14 [ikir]  

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tsakal
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@ikir
I got a new mbp 13 2018 2.7 16gb 1 tb paired with the gaming box rx580 and a Dell 29' 2k and the benchmarks i get are not as i expected and not better than what i got with my 2015 mbp 13 with TB2. With the mbp 23 2018 i get the 41fps (1040) on Heaven ultra setting 1080p  vs 39fps and 67.5 fps on the basic preset. Cinebench is at 62fps vs 61fps. Dirt Rally on macOS at 55 fps. 
I run macOS 10.14.1 (18B75)
Do you think that i need to change any setting?

A) 2020 MacBook Pro, i7-1068NG7, 32GB RAM, 1TB, EGPU Razer Core X, Gigabyte OC 3080 10Gb, Samsung 49 1440p UltraWide C49RG
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7, Internal Bootcamp Windows 10 latest update previously W10 2004 pci.sys swap.
B) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

C) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

D) 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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tsakal
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Hi there, i have a setup similar to yours and i feel that my system is not performing to its best. Do you have any 
benchmarks that you can share. See mine below. Do you think that i need to change any setting? Thanks 

I got a new mbp 13 2018 2.7 16gb 1 tb paired with the gaming box rx580 and a Dell 29' 2k and the benchmarks i get are not as i expected and not better than what i got with my 2015 mbp 13 with TB2. With the mbp 13 2018 i get the 41fps (1040) on Heaven ultra setting 1080p  vs 39fps on the mbp 2015 and 67.5 fps on the basic preset. Cinebench is at 62fps vs 61fps. Dirt Rally on macOS at 55 fps. FCPX looks to perform a bit faster but similar to the mbp2015 but as the projects i quickly looked at were only 3.3 min the difference might not be apparent, i will revert when checking longer projects. 
I run macOS 10.14.1 (18B75)
Do you think that i need to change any setting?

A) 2020 MacBook Pro, i7-1068NG7, 32GB RAM, 1TB, EGPU Razer Core X, Gigabyte OC 3080 10Gb, Samsung 49 1440p UltraWide C49RG
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7, Internal Bootcamp Windows 10 latest update previously W10 2004 pci.sys swap.
B) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

C) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

D) 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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mostlikelynotarobot
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@tsakal
I don't have access to my eGPU until next week. I'll run the benchmarks then.

2018 MacBook Pro 13" | Mantiz Venus | RX 580 8GB


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tsakal
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Thanks

A) 2020 MacBook Pro, i7-1068NG7, 32GB RAM, 1TB, EGPU Razer Core X, Gigabyte OC 3080 10Gb, Samsung 49 1440p UltraWide C49RG
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7, Internal Bootcamp Windows 10 latest update previously W10 2004 pci.sys swap.
B) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

C) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

D) 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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ed_co
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Fortunately, the Mantiz Venus doesn't have to be modded to use the Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 64 card, no need to remove anything but just dismount the whole back, and that's it. I did without any problem. It runs well, obviously I am sure will get hotter than yours, but no problems so far (I did today, and stress it out).
Just for your information, I thought I need to buy another bigger case, but don't need to (knocking on wood).
It looks like our Venus is perfectly capable for everything ;). Thanks

2017 15" MacBook Pro (RP560) [7th,4C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.13 & Win10 [build link]  

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stoffer88
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Anyone who tried this setup on bootcamp? i'll change my PSU soon to Silverstone 800W SFX-L and run bootcamp to see if it still crashes. Wondering if anyone did that? 

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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stoffer88
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I officially tried this setup with a bootcamp with the following components.

Mantiz Venus 2 (newest)

Sapphire Radeon 64 nitro+ 8 gb
PSU: Silverstone 800 Watt SST-SX800-LTI  to replace mantiz own 550 watt psu 
SSD from Samsung EVO 
Windows bootcamp 10 
Macbook pro 2018 2,9 GHz Intel Core i9 

I've been in contact with Mantiz Venus and experienced very mixed support from them. NOT very useful nor friendly to talk to. They said the 550 watt was too little for the nitro peak current of +700 watt so I bought an 800 watt to prove that their board can’t handle these kind of cards.

1 test (550 watt PSU) : 

Windows bootcamp: I tried using the nitro+ with the Mantiz out of the box and quickly got shutdowns when launching PUBG on high as well as running performance tests.  Got recommended to downvolt  with volt man from Mantiz support without luck. 

OS X: work fine even on high load

 

2 test (800 watt silverstone PSU):

Same.

Windows bootcamp: I tried using the nitro+ with the Mantiz out of the box and quickly got shutdowns when launching PUBG on high as well as running performance tests.  Got recommended to down-watt  with volt man from Mantiz support without luck. 

OS X: work fine even on high load

 

Conclusion: The Mantiz Venus and vega 64 nitro+ combination is not a good match for the bootcamp solutoin. The Mantiz can not perform and match even with a stronger PSU.

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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mac_editor
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@stoffer88

Interesting. IIRC people have sometimes encountered issues with the Silverstone PSUs in eGPUs. Perhaps searching the forums may help. I recommend trying a Corsair or Enermax (used in Sonnet Breakaway 650). I have been considering switching to Mantiz for a long time, but user experiences have so far kept me from pulling the trigger. Thank you for sharing your test results.

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2019 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + RX Vega 64 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.14.6 & Win10 [build link]  


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Eightarmedpet
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@mac_editor I'd recommend the Mantiz Venus V2, much better than I expected bot build quality wise and function wise (ports appear solid connection wise).
That coupled with its more regular components and layout makes it a bit like a MITX case meaning you can switch parts out super easy (but you already knew that...).
Also, Y U NO link your build in your 
signature?

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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2018 Mac Mini [8th,6C,B] + RX 580 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node Lite) + Win10 20H2 [build link]  


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stoffer88
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@mac_editor

Hey man. 

Well it has definitely been mentioned but the problem was EXACTLY the same with both PSU's (came at the same time in game and in tests) 

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