2018 Macbook Pro 13" (Intel Iris Plus 655) + Asus RX Vega 64 @ 32 Gbps-TB3 + Razer Core X + Mojave 10.14.1 + Bootcamp Win10 [spiderweb]  

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spiderweb
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December 3, 2018 11:41 pm  

System specs:

2018 Macbook Pro 13" i5 Quad Core 2,3 Ghz. 16 Gb RAM. 1 Tb SDD.
Intel Iris Plus 655 iGPU
Samsung CJ791 34" UltraWide 4K Thunderbolt Display
Mojave 10.14.1
Bootcamp Win10 (October Build)

Benchmark (OS X):

Civilization VI in-game benchmark (3440x1440):
iGPU: 5-8 FPS
eGPU: approx. 30 FPS

Cities Skylines (Steam) (3440x1440) Graphics High:
iGPU: 5-10 FPS
eGPU: 60-80 FPS

Geekbench:
OpenCL: 133 005

Benchmark Bootcamp (Win10):

Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Steam):
3440x1440 Highest: 38 FPS
                      High:      45 FPS
2560x1080 Highest: 51 FPS
                      High:      56 FPS

First tried this game with the original graphics drivers with no luck. Resulted in crash claiming something about insufficient resources for the graphics driver. The "fix" was to disable Direct X 12 from the game menu and after that I managed to run it with poor results: 10-30 FPS with all the above mentioned settings. Installed fresh drivers from bootcampdrivers.com and finally the performance was up to the expected level. Now running graphics driver version 25.20.14011.1003 included in the Bootcampdrivers.com Edition 18.11.1.

Unigine Valley:
3440x1440
4xAA
Ultra
50.1 FPS

Unigine Heaven:
3440x1440
2xAA
High
63.1 FPS

Geekbench:
OpenCL 169 536 (vs. Mac OSX 133 005 !)

Installation:

Run Bootcamp installer as per instructions.

*** Unplug all peripherals during installation. ***

That's it.


Result:

Everything in OS X working as should.
Internal monitor missing in Windows.

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Eightarmedpet
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December 4, 2018 9:05 am  

It would be great to see some pics of your set up and some benchmarks in games... I'm really curious as to whether I would see much of a performance boost going from my 2017 13inch MBP to wither a 2018 model or a Mac mini and would be great to see some game frames I can compare mine to...

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touchbar + [email protected] (AKiTiO Thunder3) + Win10
2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + [email protected] (Sonnet Breakaway Box) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + GTX1070 (debating 2070 upgrade) @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + Vega 56 @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10 & macOS 10.14+

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spiderweb
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December 4, 2018 12:39 pm  
Posted by: Eightarmedpet

It would be great to see some pics of your set up and some benchmarks in games... I'm really curious as to whether I would see much of a performance boost going from my 2017 13inch MBP to wither a 2018 model or a Mac mini and would be great to see some game frames I can compare mine to...

Updated pics.
If the CPU does not bottleneck your eGPU then there should be no difference. However, I am not that aware of connection differences etc. "more in-depth" tech talk.
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https://thebottlenecker.com/calculator

--> Comparison 13" vs 15" (shows the non-existent difference of CPU's in the graphics performance):

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Eightarmedpet
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December 4, 2018 1:03 pm  

Great pics, feels like a bit of a shame to hide the core under the desk no?
Cheers for that video link, although my situation is slightly different as I have the 2017 which is only a dual core while the 2018's are quad.

That Bottleneck calculator tells me mines quite bottlenecked!

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touchbar + [email protected] (AKiTiO Thunder3) + Win10
2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + [email protected] (Sonnet Breakaway Box) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + GTX1070 (debating 2070 upgrade) @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar + Vega 56 @32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V1) + Win10 & macOS 10.14+

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spiderweb
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December 4, 2018 3:21 pm  

I like my desk free from all irrelevant gadgets and cable spagetti. All I need from the eGPU is the TB3 cable.

Also damping the noise from the Vega and keeping the pumping red lights out of my face.

🤨

In my opinion quad core is the minimum for eGPU due to future proofing.

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Notorious826
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December 4, 2018 11:01 pm  

@spiderweb no Error 12 in Bootcamp?

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spiderweb
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December 4, 2018 11:44 pm  
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@spiderweb no Error 12 in Bootcamp?

@Notorious826 No problems whatsoever.

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zharrief
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December 5, 2018 10:15 am  

Did you daisy-chain the eGPU through the monitor?

I just recently got the same monitor, and already had the Razer Core X and Vega RX 64 Strix, but I have a 6-core 2018 MBP, and daisy chaining did not work no matter what I did (disabling the PCI controller for left side ports and the 560X results in no output from anything, even the eGPU). If I didn't disable the controllers then it would give error 12 on the Vega 64 card, but the 560X worked and drove the internal and the monitor without issue. When I plug the eGPU in by itself, without TB3 from the monitor, then it works, but I lose all my USB devices that are connected to the monitor (and the internal monitor doesn't work, but I don't care about that). Plugging them both in separately (not daisy chaining) leads to error 12 unless I get lucky on a boot after disabling left side ports. 

I also have a GTX 1070 Gaming X laying around and ran into pretty much the same issue. Shame, because if the GTX 1070 worked then I would have finally achieved a one cable solution: I could use displayport over USB-C when in Mac OS by passing the NVidia GPU and its macOS driver issues, and use the eGPU when in Windows for gaming.

Victory is so close... but so far away...

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spiderweb
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December 5, 2018 7:15 pm  

If you look closely at the picture you can see two TB3 cables (zip tied together) right next to right side TB3 ports on MBP.
One going to the Core X and the other one is connected directly to the monitor. eGPU is connected to the monitor via HDMI.

If I don't use the eGPU then I just switch the TB3 cable and enjoy the silence.

Using Sonos Play:5 as an external speaker (behind the monitor) which is connected to the monitor's 3,5mm audio jack.
Keyboard, mouse and headphones are all connected via bluetooth...

I guess this does not help you much since I'm not using any USB peripherals.
But what I've understood the past few weeks browsing this forum the 15" MBP is a totally different thing due to the dGPU so you might want to check some builds concerning the 15" model.

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QwilfishTrainer
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December 14, 2018 12:22 am  

So... everything is just plug and play? On both macos and bootcamp? : o

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