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2019 16" MacBook Pro (RP5500M) [9th,8C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core X) + macOS 10.15.6 & Win10 2004  

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raebyagthefirst
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@arzen, I ran heaven on macOS and got similar results as in Win

@cc88, I personally don’t know. Gaming was my primary target, but I think if you use 4K panels, you would benefit from having egpu for them

 

2019 16" MacBook Pro (RP5500M) [9th,8C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core X) + macOS 10.15.6 & Win10 2004 [build link]  

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Erik Tank
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FYI - I've messed with this for about 9 hours straight now.  Had 1909 and even with PCI could not get it to work.  Your instructions were pretty spot on, only I leave mine plugged in all the way for bootup - and then after I log into windows - I move the cable from top left TB3 port to top right TB3 port - wait for usb to make an USB disconnect noise (makes a lot of connect sounds, and eventually one disconnect), then I move the plug from top right TB3 back to the original top left TB3 and son of a gun it all springs to life.  I have no clue why this works, but yikes - it's awesome.  

I'm worried about adding a drive to the internal storage in the Mantiz since I have to disconnect the thing twice and move the cable back and forth and what that might do to the integrity of data.  

System specs

  • 2019 16" MacBook Pro w/ i9-9880HK, 32GB RAM, 5500M 8GB, 1TB SSD
  • dGPU: RP5500M 8 GB
  • iGPU: Intel UHD Graphics 630 
  • macOS Catalina 10.15.6
  • Windows 10 Pro 2004 (Build 19041.508)  Slightly newer than OP.  I got my ISO from MS VLC Aug 2020 release.

 

eGPU hardware

 

For those curious - the Mantiz is pretty awesome.  I have two USB hubs plugged into the front USB ports on the Mantiz, which includes audio usb adapters, iPad, keyboard and mouse, and misc other things.  I have a nvme external enclosure for my games in bootcamp currently plugged into one of the back ports on the Mantiz box and wired ethernet plugged into it as well.  So it's really quite the one plug setup for all data connections, peripherals, and charging power.  

Now I'm going to install parallels and see how badly that will mess up my bootcamp partition and these driver issues.  I use parallels while I'm at work for various quick things throughout the work day - and game in bootcamp at night.  Or at least I hope too with this new eGPU setup.  I can't wait to see what the RX 6000 line brings us!

Added details: If you don't press any key to load the custom efi file, and instead use the original efi file - then the 5700 xt will be code 12'd.  This is expected.  You have to use the custom efi file so that it properly allocates windows' resources so it can start the 5700xt.  I don't know how it does it - and why I have to move my cable back and forth between my 8x and 4x PCIE lanes, but at least it works, and somewhat reliably so far, albeit burdensome to move ports every time I reboot, and sit to press any key at startup.

Can the EFI startup be reversed?  Example: Is there a way to default to the custom efi bios on the count down timer, and only boot into the original if you press any key?  So if I have to reboot I don't have to baby sit and press a key at startup?  And perhaps shorten the timer to 3 seconds?  It takes about 33 seconds to bring up the press any key button on my system and another 43 seconds to boot into the windows login screen.  It takes 8 seconds in parallels to boot.  Just curious... 

2019 16" MBP - i9 - 32GB - 5500M 8GB - 1TB SSD w/eGPU 5700XT OC


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Arzen
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@erik_tank, any chance you would post a screenshot from MacOS running Heaven with 1080p and the "Extreme" preset which defaults to 1600x900? I'd greatly appreciate it.

I'm trying to decide between a Saturn Pro w/ a 5700 XT or upgrade my 580 Gaming Box to a PowerColor 5700 ITX card.

Another eGPU brother posted that his 5700 ITX gets around a 1800-1900 score in Heaven on the "Extreme" preset at 1600x900 resolution -- about a 100% upgrade over the 580 card in the Gigabyte eGPU. If I can just find someone with a 5700 XT then I'll have all the pieces to the puzzle. 😉

I just posted my results from the 580 Gaming Box here if you are interested (and the 5500M w/4GB): https://egpu.io/forums/postid/86564/

 

MacBook Pro 16" - 2.3 i9, 16GB, 1TB, 5500m (I added thermal pads to the VRMs); Mantiz Saturn Pro w/ PowerColor Red Devil 5700 XT (previously, a Gigabyte RX 580 Gaming Box) + LG OLED C9


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@arzen, Take a look at my build using the 2019 16-in MacBook Pro + Radeon VII + Razer Core V2. In that build I tested not only the 5500M dGPU and Radeon VII eGPU but also several Radeon eGPUs (RX 580, RX Vega 56, and RX 5700 XT). Synthetic benchmark numbers do show RX 5700 XT is twice as fast compared to RX 580.

 

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2013 Mac Pro (FP D500 x2) [3rd,12C,E] + RX 5700 XT @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (Mantiz Saturn Pro) + macOS 11 [build link]  


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@arzen, I will check this out when I get home tonight.  I'm not sure there's much to tweak while in MacOS, like turbo, etc... I think I am thermal throttling though.  In my bootcamp install - I ran a userbenchmark test to see the difference in speed between the two GPUs in the same system, with and without turbo turned on (bootcamp) and got this:

Turbo On: 

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Turbo Off:

image

 

Userbenchmark.com has a great set of data to use to compare different model video cards (or CPUs, etc.) together and see the differences between them, using user submitted data.  

 

2019 16" MBP - i9 - 32GB - 5500M 8GB - 1TB SSD w/eGPU 5700XT OC


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raebyagthefirst
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@arzen,

Screen Shot 2020 09 18 at 16.43.36

 

 

2019 16" MacBook Pro (RP5500M) [9th,8C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core X) + macOS 10.15.6 & Win10 2004 [build link]  

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Erik Tank
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@raebyagthefirst, This is much better than my score... do you throttle stop or such your macOS install?  I have about 60 programs loaded in the back and foreground, so I'm sure my environment isn't optimal for testing - but this is a very nice score and I just wondered how I could reproduce it 😉

 

2019 16" MBP - i9 - 32GB - 5500M 8GB - 1TB SSD w/eGPU 5700XT OC


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Posted by: @erik_tank

@raebyagthefirst, This is much better than my score... do you throttle stop or such your macOS install?  I have about 60 programs loaded in the back and foreground, so I'm sure my environment isn't optimal for testing - but this is a very nice score and I just wondered how I could reproduce it 😉

 

Yeah, he probably closed all the applications he had running (usually that's suggested for benchmarking). Secondly, are you running your benchmark at 1600x900? Or something higher? That'll make a huge difference. 

MacBook Pro 16" - 2.3 i9, 16GB, 1TB, 5500m (I added thermal pads to the VRMs); Mantiz Saturn Pro w/ PowerColor Red Devil 5700 XT (previously, a Gigabyte RX 580 Gaming Box) + LG OLED C9


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raebyagthefirst
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@arzen, I ran in extreme preset as you asked, missed the part for 1080p.

Here are results for 1080p with extreme settings. Surprisingly or not, Win results are defly better

Screen Shot 2020 09 20 at 14.58.08

 

 

2019 16" MacBook Pro (RP5500M) [9th,8C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core X) + macOS 10.15.6 & Win10 2004 [build link]  

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Arzen
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@raebyagthefirst, yeah! Pretty crazy huh? The good thing is that on Mac I don't think the benchmarks are a perfect way to test eGPUs. 

For example, my 5500m scores more than 20% higher than my 580 Gaming Box but in actual use I get nearly 20-30% better FPS with exactly the same settings in games on the eGPU vs the dGPU (eGPU is better). 

Confusing but at least it's an improvement. When I figured that out I finally decided to get the 5700xt for a Mantiz Saturn Pro. Waiting for all my stuff now -- going to be nice to game on Ultra settings at 1440p. 😄

 

MacBook Pro 16" - 2.3 i9, 16GB, 1TB, 5500m (I added thermal pads to the VRMs); Mantiz Saturn Pro w/ PowerColor Red Devil 5700 XT (previously, a Gigabyte RX 580 Gaming Box) + LG OLED C9


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