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2021 13" MSI Summit E13 Flip EVO [11th,4C,G] + RTX 3080 @ 32Gbps-TB4 (Razer Core X Chroma) + Win10 20H2 [Wildfear]  

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wildfear
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Hello everyone !

 

Another Tiger lake build with this time a 13" 2-in-1 device.

I used the same the same eGPU of my main setup :

2020 15" Lenovo Legion 7i (RTX2070S) [10th,8C,H] + RTX 3080 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core X Chroma) + Win10 20H2

 

System specs :

Laptop :

MSI Summit E13 Flip 13.4" 16:10

i7 1185G7 / 32GB 4266MHz / 1To NVMe PCIe Gen4x4

dGPU : n/a

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Screens :

- main : Acer Predator XB271HUBMIPRZ (27" WQHD 165Hz IPS)

- secondary : SKILLKORP SKP_E20-27 (27" WQHD 144Hz VA)

OS :Windows 10 20H2

 

eGPU hardware :

eGPU enclosure : Razer Core X Chroma 

TB3 Cable : from Razer bundle

eGPU card : MSI GeForce RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X 10G OC (hardware limited to 320W)

 

Hardware pictures : /

 

Installation steps :

Original OEM OS, just updated to Windows 20H2

Hotlug eGPU and install lastest drivers for RTX

 

> This device is just launch and maybe too pricy but CPU TDP and cooling system are pretty good for this thin form factor : 55+ burst, 36W sustain

> I manage to open the lid and repaste it (painful with 2 screws under rubber pad...)

> Cooling was ok before repaste, with it I just gain little more stability in clock rates, around 3.5Ghz in long run in perf mode

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Benchmarks : with comparison with my main laptop and previous testing :

 

Timespy : https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19592088

MSI E13 Tiger Lake 4C G 28W : GPU 15061 / CPU 5383 (after repaste)

MSI M15 Tiger Lake 4C H 35W : GPU 15011 / CPU 5356

Asus Tiger Lake 4C G 25W : GPU 15046 / CPU 4489

Lenovo Comet Lake 8C H 45W : GPU 14043 / CPU 10249

 

Timespy Extreme :  https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19589161

MSI E13 Tiger Lake 4C G 28W : 7980 GPU / 2304 CPU (before repaste)

MSI Tiger Lake 4C H 35W : 7961 GPU / 2483 CPU

Asus Tiger Lake 4C G 25W : 8016 GPU/ 1998 CPU

Lenovo Comet Lake 8C H 45W : 7748 GPU / 4605 CPU

 

Port Royal : https://www.3dmark.com/pr/985108 / GPU 8380

Firestrike : https://www.3dmark.com/fs/25329476 / GPU 32163 / Phys 14588 / Comb 9074

Firestrike Extreme : https://www.3dmark.com/fs/25328901 / GPU 17722 / Phys 14474 / Comb 8336

Firestrike Ultra : https://www.3dmark.com/fs/25328911 / GPU 9696 / Phys 14493 / Comb 5474

 

Others benchmarks and system infos :

CudaZ :

cudaz

Cinebench R20 before repaste :

CB20

Cinebench R20 after repaste :

CB20.repasted

Heaven 1080 ultra/extreme :

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 Heaven QHD ultra/extreme :

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Superposition extreme 1080 :

Superposition Benchmark v1.1 10083 1617915719

 Superposition medium 1080 :

Superposition Benchmark v1.1 25267 1617915934

 Superposition medium 1440 :

Superposition Benchmark v1.1 19050 1617916179

 Superposition medium 4k :

Superposition Benchmark v1.1 10227 1617916423
2021 16" Lenovo Legion 5i Pro Gen 6 (RTX3060) [11th,8C,H] + RTX 3080 @ 32Gbps-TB4 (Razer Core X Chroma) + Win10 21H1 [build link]  

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TheGreen
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Awesome! I have been looking forward for this laptop to launch, as I'm considering for myself.

How are the thermals? I see that you mention that it doesn't throttle, which is great, but in my use case it would be plugged and on for 16+hours a day. What are your impressions about durability/build quality? How hot does it get at 100% load on AC?

Clevo NS50 i7-1165G7 32GB + Akitio Node Pro w/ GTX 1660 (AMA while I haven't a build posted)


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wildfear
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@thegreen, it starts throttling when it passes 36-37w and 94°C+ with Clock rate beeing at 3.5-3.6Ghz

The performance profile rightfully is set to 64W PL2 / 36W PL1 : PL2 can't be maintain more than a few sec and Throttle arround 40W but allows high clock rate for short burst if needed

Balanced profile is 40WPL2 / 28W PL1 : seems perfect for non gaming activites

Silent is like 28W PL2 / 15W PL1.

Of course it's with AC on Smile

 

On performance mode fans can get loud when CPU temps goes over 80°C but that's expected. Rest of time they settle.

The main concern might be the externals thermals as the device get really hot on the rear side (don't have thermal camera to get more info).

I think this device is not suitable for 10+ hours of full load (as any convertible device) but it can handle more than other 2-in1 I tested.

 

Build quality is good, not at dell xps and razer levels, but it's a good step up for MSI.

 

 

 

2021 16" Lenovo Legion 5i Pro Gen 6 (RTX3060) [11th,8C,H] + RTX 3080 @ 32Gbps-TB4 (Razer Core X Chroma) + Win10 21H1 [build link]  

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MrCat
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@wildfear

 

These are some impressive values for PL1, especially considering it's tickness (around 15 mm)! Did you do any more stress tests? I've been trying to find some info about this convertible but somehow there are almost no reviews online. There was a video on YouTube though (around 4:45 min):

The reviewer stated it would throttle to 200 MHz when using the iGPU and CPU at the same time. Did you experince any of this?

 

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wildfear
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@mrcat, the device was pretty stable on all benchmark I ran but I didn't run long stability /stress test.

For me this is a very good convertible (but too pricy), snappy with good burst power, but I would prefer not to do long heavy CPU task on it as thermals get too high.

I return it because off those thermals and fan noise at full speed. I'm quite picky on those points 😐 

 

 

 

2021 16" Lenovo Legion 5i Pro Gen 6 (RTX3060) [11th,8C,H] + RTX 3080 @ 32Gbps-TB4 (Razer Core X Chroma) + Win10 21H1 [build link]  

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