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2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + GTX 1080 Ti @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + macOS 10.13.6 & Win10 [OliverB]  

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OliverB
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System specs

-MacBook Pro 15 inch 2018, i7-8850 6-core, 32GB Ram, 1TB SSD
-External Monitor Samsung 2560x1440
-Mac OSX 10.13.6
-Windows 10 Build 1803 Bootcamp

eGPU hardware (eGPU enclosure, video card, any third-party TB3 cable, any custom mods)

Asus XG Station Pro
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 (EVGA 11G-P4-6593-KR)

Hardware picture

AsusXPProWithGTX1080Ti

 

Installation

I have just reinstalled Bootcamp and have to say: The installation is even easier than I thought. It took almost no effort to get the eGPU running with Windows 10 Build 1803 in this setup:

Windows:  (Starting with a fresh Bootcamp installation Windows 10 Build 1803)

1) Hot-plug your eGPU on already running windows..
2) Give windows some time, it will do all by itself.
3) After some time "GeforceGTX1080Ti" will appear in Device Manager under "Display Adapters", but yellow banged.
4) Shutdown
5) Switch off eGPU
6) Boot into Windows
7) switch on the eGPU (or hotplug).
8) => Finished, it works!

Note: You can probably skip of the "switch off eGPU" part  5) and 7), but then internal display will mostly not work.

Note2: With this setup you not never get Error 12 or other issues often reported. The only issue can be the internal display.

Note3: I can happened that after the installation of drivers, the device is correctly detected, but yellow banged with Error 14 or 43. Especially 14 would mean to reboot. This is not necessary. Just disable and re-enabled the device and it will work.

Note4: Windows installed the nVidia Version 388 driver by itself, it is not the newest but exactly the best for the Geforce GTX 10xx series.

Note5: If you boot the system, you may want to hotplug the eGPU in order to get the internal display running with Radeon drivers. Alternatively you can deactivate the Radeon Driver in Device Manager under "Display adapters" and then you won't have trouble with it (but no acceleration either on internal display)

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jerry Kansai
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Nice setup. I’ve also gpu from evga, xc 2080, it’s really silent even on Razer Core v2 that has loud PSU that made overall enclosure loudness is better now compared to previous dual fans Zotac mini and nvidia Turing Fe, and of course Asus Turbo with blower style fan that I used.

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Razer Core V2 rtx 2070 Black 2040mhz Boost clock
Previous setting: rtx 2080ti Asus Turbo, rtx 2080 xc gaming, rtx 2080 Fe, Zotac Mini 1080ti, Evga 1080 FTW2 gaming.
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pewpewfish
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When in use, do you use the MacBook with the lid closed or open? Also, what are temperatures like for the MBP when running the benchmarks?

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OliverB
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Posted by: Joikansai

Nice setup. I’ve also gpu from evga, xc 2080, it’s really silent even on Razer Core v2 that has loud PSU that made overall enclosure loudness is better now compared to previous dual fans Zotac mini and nvidia Turing Fe, and of course Asus Turbo with blower style fan that I used.

Ah thank you, this is very interesting, because I have ordered 4 eGPU boxes for comparing. Aorus GameBox GTX 1080, Asus XG Station Pro, Razer Core X and Razer Core V2.

The Razer Cores haven't arrived yet and I have applied the cancelation of Razer Core V2 because I am very happy with the Asus XG Station Pro. Now, when you are telling me that the PSU is very loud, my decision looks confirmed as this is very important for me.

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Posted by: pewpewfish

When in use, do you use the MacBook with the lid closed or open? Also, what are temperatures like for the MBP when running the benchmarks?

The lid is always open. I haven't checked the temperatures yet, but I can tell you about "fan-activity" of the MBP: It's absolutely quiet on the Uniginie and GfxMetal Tests. They are really pure 3D-gpu tests. On the other Tests there is only MPB-fan activity when the CPU is explicitly probed.

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Fascinating. I assume when you mention the “other” tests, Tomb Raider is one of them? If so, how loud to the temps spin up?

I have my eyes set on your exact config but with a 2080ti. I’m reluctant to pull the trigger because I hear of reports where the CPU goes straight to the 90s within the first hour of gaming.

Whenever you get the time to sit down and play, give the temps of the CPU a look, please and thank you  🙂

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OliverB
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Posted by: pewpewfish

Fascinating. I assume when you mention the “other” tests, Tomb Raider is one of them? If so, how loud to the temps spin up?

I have my eyes set on your exact config but with a 2080ti. I’m reluctant to pull the trigger because I hear of reports where the CPU goes straight to the 90s within the first hour of gaming.

Whenever you get the time to sit down and play, give the temps of the CPU a look, please and thank you  🙂

Actually I was speaking more about the 3dMark Tests, they tend to probe the CPU, too. Then you hear the fan.

Playing Tomb Raider 2013 in highest settings with the eGPU, you don't hear a lot. It's a completely other thing if you are playing with the dGPU Radeon Pro 560X. Then the fan goes berserk and the notebook becomes hot.

It was a nice idea to implement a decent GPU within the notebook, but it is hardly useful and one of the main reason I went for an eGPU.

I will soon check CPU temperature and add to the information.

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I've read a lot about noise of eGPU boxes and it was concern for me - my first set up was a 1060 inside a Thunder3 and that made a crazy amount of noise (and heat) to the extent I was worried it would end up damaged. It was also too loud to use on the desk next to my laptop.

I've been running a Sonnet on the floor next to my desk for over a year now (I think?) and its super quiet, I don't even know its there, but.. its large and the average build quality was a constant niggle for me - it felt like a cheap PC case.

The Razer Core has always been the best looking enclosure IMO and I finally grabbed a cheap second hand one off ebay (the price was always a touch high for a new one for me) and I have been pleasantly surprised how quiet it is. It's on my desk, and you can hear it, but it's far from the hairdryer that the Thunder3 set up was. Will write a bit more when I do a build guide. Worth noting that I live in a busy part of central London though, so my concept of "quiet" may be different to other peoples and the amount of background noise is also worth considering.

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Just a another nice benchmark, with 1,5 active cable:

Superposition Benchmark v1.0 5542 1540851626

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Great post! I just purchased my Station Pro - looking forward to it. I will be buying a 1080ti for it but also trying my reference Sapphire Vega 64 in it (States TDP 295W so we'll see!)

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Posted by: ICULikeMac

Great post! I just purchased my Station Pro - looking forward to it. I will be buying a 1080ti for it but also trying my reference Sapphire Vega 64 in it (States TDP 295W so we'll see!)

This is great. Please post some benchmarks. Especially the comparison with the Vega 64 is mostly interesting.
I have just got some new benchmark and they show again the power of the 1080Ti. Even with the Ultra setting for my monitor (1440p) on Far Cry 5, it will never drop below 62 FPS.

FarCry5 QHD Ultra
FarCry5 FHD High

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The MacOsx comparing Benchmarks for iGPU, dGPU and eGPU yields the following improving factors:

2.6 (iGPU -> dGPU)
4.6 (dGPU -> eGPU)
11.9
(iGPU -> eGPU)

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Benchmarks for MacOSX comparing iGPU, dGPU and eGPU:

iGPU dGPU eGPU
LuxMark2018iGPU

LuxMark2018dGPU

LuxMark2018eGPU

gfxBench2018iGPU

gfxBench2018dGPU

gfxBench2018eGPU

Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0 2018iGPU

Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0 2018dGPU

Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0 2018eGPU

Borderlands2 2018iGPU

Borderlands2 2018dGPU

Borderlands2 2018eGPU

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Here an interesting Benchmark "UserBenchmark" comparing eGPU and dGPU with other users. It shows that the eGPU performs well, it looks as there was no disadvantage for being external. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12763499

UserBenchmarkGPUs15inchMPB2018

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Here another impressive Valley result witg 5403 by the GTX1080Ti, slightly undervolted. Incredible.

Unigine Valley Benchmark 1.0 GTX1080Ti oc 5403

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OliverB
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Unfortunately I deleted my opening post with the latest step-by-step guide to install bootcamp. It was even easier than ever before and the best of it:

The system is now entirely plug-n-play!
I can (dis)connect, switchon/off, hot/unplug the eGPU whenever I want and it works like charm. Even better: I have just changed the GPU within the enclosure during running windows and there was no need to reboot.

This is really amazing the only thing I don't understand what's different now, because the hardware and software is the exactly the same and it have never been this good.

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rusTORK
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Impressive results! Especially in Valley.

Can you please take screenshots from CUDA-Z and AIDA64 GPGPU benhmarks? I want to compare with my system, since i have exactly the same eGPU.

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Posted by: rusTORK

Impressive results! Especially in Valley.

Can you please take screenshots from CUDA-Z and AIDA64 GPGPU benhmarks? I want to compare with my system, since i have exactly the same eGPU.

I can attach benchmarks for AIDA64 and CUDAZ both Windows and Macosx. I made those benchmarks a couple of months ago:

Cuda Mac 80cm
Aida64 GTX1080Ti

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Thank you, @oliverb! Hm... can't really understand why results in benchmarks higher (Superposition, Valley) when bandwidth is lower... MacBook better CPU (6c/12t)?

Here is my test run in Superposition:
Maximum Performance for CPU
Maximum Performance for GPU
G-SYNC is forced OFF
Meltdown and Spectre is OFF

4962 eGPU GenA Max Performance NTR1 3.7GHz Kapton Mod No Protection

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Posted by: rusTORK

Thank you, @oliverb! Hm... can't really understand why results in benchmarks higher (Superposition, Valley) when bandwidth is lower... MacBook better CPU (6c/12t)?

@rusTORK

It's the notebook. The 15-inch MacBookPro has very powerful TB3 ports. It has 4 PCIe lanes directly connected to the CPU. The difference is notable.
I am not sure if there are other notebooks with this feature. @itsage may know more about it.

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