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2018 15" Dell XPS 15 9570 (GTX1050Ti) [8th,6C,H] + GTX 1080 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (AORUS Gaming Box) + Win10 [roadie1]  

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roadie1
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I think this is one of the first published builds with a Dell XPS 9570. I'm just coming back to Windows after years on Macbooks Pro, and I'm learning about eGPUs from scratch as I go along. Please let me know if there's another benchmark you'd like me to check.

I'm not using this machine for gaming, but for job-specific 3D lighting rendering software called Capture, that runs on a DirectX-based engine. So far it's been a pretty solid improvement, though it's hard to give any benchmarks from that software, as each project within it is a custom build that loads the GPU differently.


System specs

Dell XPS 15" 9570
4K display
Intel Core i7-8750H CPU @ 2.20 GHz - stock, no undervolt
16GB RAM
1TB HDD
Nvidia GTX 1050ti MaxQ

 

eGPU hardware

Aorus Gaming Box 1080 8GB
50cm Thunderbolt cable (included)

 

Installation steps

eGPU was 100% plug-and-play, worked out of the box with zero configuration.

 

Benchmarks 

TIMESPY

  • 1050ti onboard GPU only: 2,456
  • 1080 to external monitor: 5,700
  • 1080 to laptop screen only: 5,615

     

UNGINE SUPERPOSITION - 1080p Medium

  • 1050ti onboard GPU only: 4,654
  • 1080 to external monitor: 12,798
  • 1080 to laptop screen only: 11,456

     

UNGINE SUPERPOSITION - 1080p Extreme

  • 1050ti onboard GPU only: 1,142
  • 1080 to external monitor: 3,789
  • 1080 to laptop screen only: 3,351

 

Heaven - 1080p max settings

  • 1050ti onboard GPU only: 901 - 35.8 fps - min 17.6 - max 79.7
  • 1080 to external monitor: 1,852 - 73.5 fps - min 28.0 - max 136.0
  • 1080 to laptop screen only: 1,996 - 79.2 fps - min 31.0 - max 154.6

 

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Only issue to solve is that when I disconnect the eGPU, whether by removing the Thunderbolt cable or by disconnecting it using the Nvidia software, the laptop "loses" the onboard 1050ti and the only way to get it back is to reinstall drivers.

EDIT: It looks like the driver issue can be resolved by connecting the eGPU, and THEN reinstalling the driver for the onboard 1050ti.

In all other respects, working with this eGPU really couldn't be an easier experience.

 

 

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RimsOnAToaster
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Thank you so much for your contribution to the community! The 9570 is HOT right now, but the only mention of eGPU performance we've seen so far has been less than inspiring. This, however, is a great breakdown of its performance!

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It sounds like you're doing the exact same thing as I am: jumping back to Windows to get CUDA and DirectX support and picking up an XPS on Dell's back to school sale. Did you have to do anything special to  get it to run on the internal display?

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Great post! Everybody is talking about how good is the 9570 but for some reason there’s not much information about its eGPU capabilities.

I’m a MacBook Pro user who’s thinking about switching back to Windows, for different reasons though, and the XPS is a serious contender. 

It’d be great if you could include some gaming benchmarks. Nothing in particular, something to be able to compare would be nice. Thanks!

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@roadie1 When you have a chance, please download and run HWiNFO64 and post a screen capture to show eGPU connection.

Best ultrabooks for eGPU use

eGPU enclosure buying guide


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Thanks for the post, just picked up the Aorus Box 1080 for my 9570 based on your experience. Very pleased so far and my benchmarks matched yours almost exactly. So far running a +150 core O/C on the 1080 with no issues at all and got a few more FPS out of vantage.

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i wanna buy this laptop to game on it alone but also to get a epgu at some point. Does this laptop cpu have issues even when its hooked up to a epgu ? I dont wanna spend all this money on this laptop to have it have a lot of cpu over heating/ bottle necking. Since someone now seems to have good results with this box and the laptop i would be interested in knowing how the cpu holds up ?

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Posted by: Codeman2005

Thanks for the post, just picked up the Aorus Box 1080 for my 9570 based on your experience. Very pleased so far and my benchmarks matched yours almost exactly. So far running a +150 core O/C on the 1080 with no issues at all and got a few more FPS out of vantage.

Do you know if the CPU still gets really hot in this laptop while using the egpu ? Good to know people are getting good results with the egpu but what about the processor?

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Hi folks - I'm just overseas without my EGPU, I'll get those CPU answers for you when I'm home at the end of next week!

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Posted by: roadie1

Hi folks - I'm just overseas without my EGPU, I'll get those CPU answers for you when I'm home at the end of next week!

That would be amazing thank you !! im  getting mixed reviews on this concept with this laptop. Guy on youtube says this laptop will still throttle a lot with a egpu that he uses and other say its fine. I wanted this laptop but if it struggles with serious gaming with a EGPU i might just get a powerful msi gaming laptop.

looking forward to your cpu info when you return from your trip !

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After years of Mac and fighting for Mac eGPU support I made the switch to Windows. My work always finances my laptops so this time I chose this Dell 9570 i7-8750H, 32GB configuration.

To avoid driver issues I also bought a new eGPU, the Aorus Gaming Box 1080.

I must say, it really is a great experience. It just works out of the box. At first the 1050TI is disabled because of driver conflicts. Windows first installs old drivers, but the eGPU works fine otherwise. After updating the drivers through Gefore Experience I got both GPUs to work again.

Am really amazed, just curious about why my eGPU only supplies 65W to the laptop. The specs say it should supply 100W. Also curious to see if H2D further improves the eGPU speed (not sure if it is already installed).

 

 

cuda z

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Hey a few Qs
- can I confirm you can run the 1050Ti when undocked and 1080 when docked without a problem? Is switching automatic?
- Is the 65W power delivery a problem esp. when gaming? i.e. are you draining battery when docked due to not enough charging power?
- What % benefit in FPS did you see over the 1050? I'm concerned that for XPS 15 owners, eGPU is marginal benefit as we already have an OK card?

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Posted by: wintermute000

Hey a few Qs
- can I confirm you can run the 1050Ti when undocked and 1080 when docked without a problem? Is switching automatic?
- Is the 65W power delivery a problem esp. when gaming? i.e. are you draining battery when docked due to not enough charging power?
- What % benefit in FPS did you see over the 1050? I'm concerned that for XPS 15 owners, eGPU is marginal benefit as we already have an OK card?

I have the same question
I'm going to buy a new laptop. It would be with a I7 7700HQ with a GTX 1050 ti or a I7  8565u with the gaming box GTX 1070. I think the processors performe the same  but wil the EGPU GTX 1070 have a benefit over the  GTX 1050 TI internal ?

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Posted by: wintermute000

Hey a few Qs
- can I confirm you can run the 1050Ti when undocked and 1080 when docked without a problem? Is switching automatic?
- Is the 65W power delivery a problem esp. when gaming? i.e. are you draining battery when docked due to not enough charging power?
- What % benefit in FPS did you see over the 1050? I'm concerned that for XPS 15 owners, eGPU is marginal benefit as we already have an OK card?

- Yes, auto-switching between 1050ti internal, and 1080 eGPU, has been seamless. Only interaction from me is to unplug the USB-C.

- I've never tried running the eGPU without the laptop connected to wall power; since the eGPU requires power input of its own, there's never been a reason to run the eGPU powered, and the laptop on battery.

- FPS changes are listed in my original post. In every benchmark I found, adding the eGPU increased framerates by at least 100%.

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Hi! 

What a great and helpful forum. I just bought a 1080 gaming box as well and hooked it up to my laptop, seems to be working pretty well. 

I can't get the 1050 to start working again after disconnecting it though. How did you manage to resolve this? 
I tried installing drivers through experience center, as well as a manual driver reinstall for the 1050 with the gaming box connected. Neither of those methods worked.. 

Hopefully you have a solution 🙂 

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Posted by: FricoRico

After years of Mac and fighting for Mac eGPU support I made the switch to Windows. My work always finances my laptops so this time I chose this Dell 9570 i7-8750H, 32GB configuration.

To avoid driver issues I also bought a new eGPU, the Aorus Gaming Box 1080.

I must say, it really is a great experience. It just works out of the box. At first the 1050TI is disabled because of driver conflicts. Windows first installs old drivers, but the eGPU works fine otherwise. After updating the drivers through Gefore Experience I got both GPUs to work again.

Am really amazed, just curious about why my eGPU only supplies 65W to the laptop. The specs say it should supply 100W. Also curious to see if H2D further improves the eGPU speed (not sure if it is already installed).

 

 

cuda z

Hey, thanks for the post - I've got an Aorus 1070 coming in a few days for my new Precision 5530, so I'm glad to hear it's working well with a comparable laptop. As to the power supply issue - are you positive it's only supplying 65W? I have a 100W USB-PD type-C charger (which I recommend if you can get it for a discount or on sale), but my Precision 5530 also gives me a warning that I'm using a 65W charger even with this 100W plugged in. I'm fairly certain it's supplying the whole 100W however, as it charges even when under heavy sustained loads with the internal screen on at full brightness.

If you are able to actually measure the TB3 power input, would you mind sharing how? I'd be really interested to see for my own purposes what my chargers are supplying. Thanks again for sharing!

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Hi, I'm glad you guys don't that much problems with this setup. I'm having A LOT of problems with it. The eGPU disconnects a lot of times (the disconnect/connect windows sounds hunts me in my nightmares). The only way (I know) to fix it is to 1) unplug en re-plug the TB3 cable from my laptop or 2) reboot my laptop until everything works again. Sometimes it takes 3 unplugs/reboots to get it to run again. I have my keyboard (Logitech G513 with 2 USB cables) connect to the gaming box. Also sometimes the keyboard doesn't work.

Any suggestions on what I could do about it?

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Hi, I am new to the whole eGPU set up.
Recently, I got a dell xps 15 9570, i5 8300H, not the version that OP has (mine does not have gtx 1050). I bought an used AGB on Ebay, and it works well. At least I can run games now, which is much better than the HD graphics 630. But my CUDA-z host to device performance is way below yours, at only around 700MiB/s. I wonder if there is anything I may have done wrong? Even though it is enough for light gaming that I am doing right now, it is probably not a good performance.

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