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2013 Mac Pro (FP D500 x2) [3rd,6C,E] + RX Vega 56 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.13.1 [itsage]  

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The iMac Pro launch is within weeks. I paired the nMP to an RX Vega 56 eGPU to get a baseline performance. My 6,1 is a hex-core 3.5GHz and the dual D500 discrete graphics cards. The drivers in 10.13.1 are far from mature but they are functional. I can plug the eGPU in anytime without crashing the Mac Pro. I've tried booting with a 4K display connected to the eGPU and that worked well. Using Thunderbolt Bus 0 with either Port 5 or 6 is recommended (bottom Thunderbolt 2 ports).

 

System specs:

Late 2013 Mac Pro – Xeon E5-1650 v2/2x Radeon FirePro D500 dGPU/32GB RAM/1TB SSD

 

eGPU hardware:

Mantiz Venus + Radeon RX Vega 56 + Apple TB3 to TB Adapter + 2m Thunderbolt 2 cable

 

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Installation steps:

By default macOS High Sierra shows the RX Vega eGPU as "RX XXX". I made a small change in the controller file of AMD1000Controller.kext to show "Radeon RX Vega56. I used iHex to find and replace "RX XXX".

 

Benchmarks:

Final Cut Pro X can make use of the eGPU with and without an external monitor connected. I tested both modes and consistently got 13 seconds on average to complete BruceX. The dual D500 dGPUs take 24s for the same test.

I also ran Luxmark and Geekbench to compare the dGPU vs eGPU. OpenGL is broken so I couldn't run Unigine benchmark yet.

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Super!!! With last 3-4 10.13.2 public betas OpenGL is working. Will you update this once 10.13.2 gets a release?


MacBook Pro 2018 Touch Bar i7 quad-core 2.7Ghz - 16GB RAM - 512GB PCIe SSD
my awesome Radeon VII eGPU
my Mantiz Venus extreme mod with Sapphire Nitro+ RX Vega 64

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + Radeon VII @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.15 [build link]  


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I will definitely re-run the benchmarks as well as OpenGL once the final version of 10.13.2 is released. The beta builds have power management issues so far.

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Posted by: itsage

I will definitely re-run the benchmarks as well as OpenGL once the final version of 10.13.2 is released. The beta builds have power management issues so far.

Hi! How about the benchmarking 10.13.2 is it faster than 10.13.1? I'm excited to try my Sonnet 550W eGPU with my nMP2013 just waiting for Vega 56 available in stores.

Mac Pro 2013, 10 core, Sonnet eGFX 550, Vega 64


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@artik I didn't get a chance to run with 10.13.2 but in 10.13.3, OpenCL performance for eGPU seems better. I ran these benchmarks with Luxmark and Geekbench with build # 17D29a.

 

I recently got the Samsung 49" monitor and it works great at full resolutions 3840 x 1080 @ 120Hz.

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From 136.000 to 176.000 ?? not bad!


MacBook Pro 2018 Touch Bar i7 quad-core 2.7Ghz - 16GB RAM - 512GB PCIe SSD
my awesome Radeon VII eGPU
my Mantiz Venus extreme mod with Sapphire Nitro+ RX Vega 64

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + Radeon VII @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + macOS 10.15 [build link]  


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Flint Ironstag
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Jeez - nice monitor!  How about a review of that?  Mr. Green

MP 6,1 | 4c | d700
MP 6,1 | 6c | d500


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@flint-ironstag I'm planning on doing a review of this monitor soon. It works great with the nMP btw, full resolutions running at 120Hz.

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Please excuse potentially poor protocol but am learning how to navigate. Based on your work, I have mustered the confidence to attach a Blackmagic Radeon Pro 580 out of the box via TB2 cable adapter as you suggested above to Mac Pro 6,1 with Quad Core E5 and dual AMD Firepro D300 on board. Mojave 10.14.2. No crashes hot plugged or cold boot. Istats sees eGPU along with D300, and OS system report sees it under Thunderbolt, but not yet under Graphics cards. Primary FCPX production box so moving slowly. What's next? Thanks in advance. Jim

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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@cottonj Welcome aboard! Since 10.13.4 Apple has restricted external graphics to Thunderbolt 3 Macs only. If you're running macOS 10.14.3 or newer, you'd need workarounds to unblock eGPU restriction. I'd recommend Purge-Wrangler script by @Mac_editor. Here's my build with the exact pairing.

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