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itsage
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My 2016 15" MacBook Pro is currently at a repair facility due to the stuck keyboard issue. In the meantime, I have no Thunderbolt 3 Mac to test the Blackmagic eGPU. It's a good thing because the 2013 Mac Pro trashcan is the perfect host. There are many elements of this new eGFX that were clearly inspired by the trashcan design.

 

System specs:

Late 2013 Mac Pro – Xeon E5-1650 v2/2x Radeon FirePro D500 dGPU/32GB RAM/1TB SSD

 

eGPU hardware:

Blackmagic Design eGPU + Radeon Pro 580 + Apple TB3 to TB Adapter + 2m Thunderbolt 2 cable

 

Hardware pictures:

 

Installation steps:

@Mac_editor's Purge-wrangler script was all I needed to get this setup going. Hot-plug, sleep, and hot-unplug have been working well. I don't have a Thunderbolt 3 monitor like the LG Ultrafine 5K so I used the Mantiz Titan dock to convert the TB3 monitor output into DisplayPort. The good news is this eGFX can provide Thunderbolt 3 monitor output. The bad news is it's not working well in Windows.

 

Benchmarks:

I ran some quick benchmarks with Luxmark and Geekbench to show the performance of this Blackmagic eGPU running with nMP.

 

Comments:

Blackmagic Design built this eGFX to cater to Mac users only. Bootcamp is even worse than the other eGPU solutions we've used. The main issue is identification of the graphics card or lack thereof. AMD drivers and settings have a hard time figuring out what it is and struggle to install/upgrade drivers.

When I tried with the Razer Blade Stealth, an eGPU-certified host, the Blackmagic was detected and worked in internal display mode because I had Radeon drivers already. The more concerning issue I found is no monitor output from this eGPU in Windows. I have had no success connecting the HDMI port directly to the monitor and Thunderbolt 3 indirectly through the Mantiz Titan dock. If you're planning on using Windows, this is not the eGFX for you.

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2013 Mac Pro (FP D500 x2) [3rd,12C,E] + RX 5700 XT @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (Mantiz Saturn Pro) + macOS 11 [build link]  


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Riss
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Hello Sage,

Is there any viable eGPU TB2/TB3 enclosure that works well with Mac Pro 2013 under Windows? All builds seem to be only for macOS

mid 2014 MBP 15" GT750m | Mac mini 2012 | Akitio Thunder 2 & 3 | GTX 780 3GB (flashed) | GTX Black Titan 6GB (stock) | Quadro P2000 (stock)


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mikaelnt
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Yes. The Razer Core X. works on both Windows and macOS.

https://egpu.io/builds/?table_filter=%22%22Razer%20Core%20X%22%20%22

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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SheldonTung
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Strange. According to the official page of Blackmagic eGPU Q&A :

Can I use an Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter with an older Thunderbolt 2 computer?

No, the Blackmagic eGPU won't work with Thunderbolt 2 computers as they don't support the speed required for good eGPU performance.

So I can just ignore that? @itsage

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mid-2014 15" MacBook Pro GT750M + [email protected] (AKiTiO Node via TB3->TB2 adapter) + macOS
2012 13‘’ & 15‘’ non-retina Macbook Pro + [email protected] (AKiTiO Node via TB3 to TB adapter) + MacOS

 
2014 15" MacBook Pro (GT750M) [4th,4C,H] + RX 580 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + macOS 10.12.6 [build link]  


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vegan
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@Riss - I believe the same setup as for Early 2015 MacBook Pro would work. I managed to get it work - see this build.

My build 1: Mac mini 2018 + Razer Core X + Vega 64
My build 2: early-2015 13'' MacBook Pro + [email protected] (Razer Core X via TB3->TB2 adapter) + macOS10.14&Win10

 
2015 13" MacBook Pro [5th,2C,U] + RX Vega 64 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (Razer Core X) + macOS 10.14 & Win10 [build link]  


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itsage
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@sheldontung Apple does not support eGPU on Thunderbolt 1 and Thunderbolt 2 Macs. Therefore they have to keep it consistent and state the Blackmagic eGPU doesn't work with the Mac Pro trashcan (TB2). I used @mac_editor's Purge-Wrangler script to enable eGPU support on the trashcan and was able to use the Blackmagic eGPU.

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2013 Mac Pro (FP D500 x2) [3rd,12C,E] + RX 5700 XT @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (Mantiz Saturn Pro) + macOS 11 [build link]  


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foliage
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Hi @itsage great work on this project. I'm very interested in your comment 'The good news is this eGFX can provide Thunderbolt 3 monitor output.'.

Does this mean that any Thunderbolt 1/2 mac with the Purge-Wrangler script, is able to use the LG Ultrafine 5k display with the Blackmagic eGPU

I am currently using a l2013 15' MBP with TB2 (and dGPU nvidia GT 750M)

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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rawweb
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@itsage

Thanks for this write up! Thanks to the script I was able to have this working in seconds in 10.14.5. I'm able to confirm via SwitchResX that the Blackmagic Radeon Pro 580 is able to drive the LG Ultrafine 5k at it's full 5k resolution via the eGPU on the 2013 Mac Pro. Pretty neat!

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2017 15" MacBook Pro + 16GB + Radeon Pro 560
2013 Mac Pro
Blackmagic Design Radeon Pro 580
Mantiz Venus - Radeon RX 580
LG Ultrafine 5k - Dual

 
2017 15" MacBook Pro (RP560) [7th,4C,H] + RP 580 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Blackmagic eGPU) + macOS 10.14.5 & Win10 [build link]  


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Dennis Wander
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@rawweb

Are you able to use brightness control, webcam etc?

2015 15 inch Macbook Pro (2.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)
2009 Mac Pro (6-core 3.33 GHz, 24GB RAM, Vega 56, macos 10.14.5 beta 2 & Windows 10 October edition, Apple SSUAX SSD, GC Titan Ridge TB3/USBC card)
Asus XG Station Pro w/ RX480 eGPU


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rawweb
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@dennis_wander

Yes sir!

2017 15" MacBook Pro + 16GB + Radeon Pro 560
2013 Mac Pro
Blackmagic Design Radeon Pro 580
Mantiz Venus - Radeon RX 580
LG Ultrafine 5k - Dual

 
2017 15" MacBook Pro (RP560) [7th,4C,H] + RP 580 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Blackmagic eGPU) + macOS 10.14.5 & Win10 [build link]  


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