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December 8, 2018 8:18 pm  

The RX 590 was launched last month for $279 in the US. This pricing puts it right in between the RX 580 and RX Vega 56. How does it perform in external graphics mode relative to the other two cards? I paired the RX 590 with the 2018 Mac mini which I tested using RX 580 and RX Vega 56 recently.

 

System specs:

Late 2018 Mac mini – i5-8500B/UHD Graphics 630 iGPU/8GB RAM/256GB SSD

 

eGPU hardware:

AKiTiO Node Pro + Radeon RX 590 + .5m Thunderbolt 3 cable

 

Hardware pictures:

 

Installation steps:

I'm using @goalque's eGPU EFI Boot Manager and disablement of a couple PCIe components at boot. These are the basic steps I took to get this setup going:

  • Install Windows 10 ISO through Bootcamp Assistant [in macOS].
  • Download and copy @goalque's automate-eGPU EFI to USB thumb drive [in macOS].
  • Hold OPTION at boot to select EFI drive and hit Q to access automate-eGPU EFI [boot selection].
  • Select View by Connection in Device Manager then locate and disable PCIe Root Port #2 - A339 and PCIe Controller (x16) - 1901 [in Windows].
  • Shut Mac mini down then connect eGPU to Thunderbolt 3 port closest to the HDMI port.
  • Boot into Windows using automate-eGPU EFI [boot selection].
  • Confirm a new Microsoft Basic Display Adapter in Device Manager then install Radeon drivers [in Windows].

The Intel iGPU should remain activated and power the ASUS MB16AC portable monitor (connected to USB-C port closest Ethernet port). This setup and boot-up procedure allows me to run internal display mode through AMD XConnect.

 

Benchmarks:

eGPU Interior FHD eGPU External FHD eGPU External QHD eGPU External 4K

 

Comments:

These results are closer to the RX 580 than RX Vega 56. I'm uncertain why AMD launched this card. The RX 580 is available for $200 or less during holiday season sales. Same with the RX Vega 56 & 64, they were sub $400 during Black Friday and Cyber Monday. Also worth of note is compatibility with macOS. I tried this setup in macOS but the XFX RX 590 Fatboy caused system crashes. This has been my experience with several XFX non-reference Radeon cards in the past.

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December 8, 2018 11:45 pm  

@theitsage you’re unstoppable, great!! Btw my rtx card just died last week, pushed too many games I think 😆 waiting the replacement from Evga. Just noticed you’re using usb C monitor, good to know it works fine with only usb c on egpu gaming. I’ve also this portable Monitor for multiple Monitor on go purposes or PS4 at camp place, so it should also work directly from rtx card usb c port right?

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December 10, 2018 2:58 pm  

@eightarmedpet Sorry I didn't mention Apple T2 chip. I disabled Secured Boot and allowed booting from external sources when I first got the Mac mini so that it doesn't interfere when I'm switching eGPU and booting partitions.

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December 10, 2018 3:09 pm  

@itsage ahhh cool... thought as much but wasn't sure. A quick Google tells me its just a couple of Radio's with System prefs so a pretty simple step.
Hoping to get at least a 25% FPS boots going from Laptop Dual core to Desktop 6-Core...

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December 15, 2018 11:45 pm  

Did you by any chance you do any testing with the RX 590 in Mac OS 10.14.2?

I've been looking at doing this combo:
Razer Core X + RX 590.

But there are basically zero testimonials from people who are using a RX590 with eGPU in Mojave 10.14.2 🙁

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December 18, 2018 4:23 pm  

@woodz The RX 590 uses the same drivers as RX 480/580 in macOS. Some non-reference RX 590 cards such as the XFX Fatboy card I got have compatibility issues in macOS.

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December 26, 2018 3:00 pm  
Posted by: theitsage

@woodz The RX 590 uses the same drivers as RX 480/580 in macOS. Some non-reference RX 590 cards such as the XFX Fatboy card I got have compatibility issues in macOS.

I bought it too, it crash my MacBook Pro 13" while plugging. have you tried the beta?

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December 26, 2018 3:26 pm  

I returned it due to macOS compatibility issue.

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December 30, 2018 12:21 pm  
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I returned it due to macOS compatibility issue.

Same, ordered Sapphire Nitro+

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December 30, 2018 2:31 pm  

@itsage @ikir
What Is your opinion on the compatibility of the msi Vega 56 below wiht the mbp13 2018. Which box would recommend the is the least troublesome in 
macOS ? 

MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Air Boost 8G

A. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb

B. 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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December 31, 2018 1:09 am  

@tsakal The MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Air Boost 8G works in macOS. It's essentially a reference card with the blower style cooler. I'd recommend an open air cooler if you were to get a non-reference Vega GPU though.

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December 31, 2018 1:19 am  

Thank you @itsage

And what about the box. Which one would you recommend. Reliability performance and size would be my first priorities. 

Happy new year. 

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December 31, 2018 1:41 am  

The Mantiz Venus is the most well-rounded eGPU enclosure. It's my choice if I can only have one.

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December 31, 2018 8:30 am  
Posted by: tsakal

@itsage @ikir
What Is your opinion on the compatibility of the msi Vega 56 below wiht the mbp13 2018. Which box would recommend the is the least troublesome in 
macOS ? 

MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Air Boost 8G

I’d go for the Sapphire pulse Vega 56 over the ref style design, it should run cooler and quieter.

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December 31, 2018 10:17 am  
Posted by: theitsage

The Mantiz Venus is the most well-rounded eGPU enclosure. It's my choice if I can only have one.

@itsage, I am thinking of buying one, too, but won't be able to return it. How can you compare it to the Asus XG Station Pro? What about the noise? The one I can buy has an custom PSU  600W, but I hear this lower fan is very loud? It there something that can be done about this? What about the airflow in the box? The noise and heat are my biggest concern about the Mantiz Venus.

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December 31, 2018 10:48 am  

The only silent eGPU i’ve Used is Blackmagic eGPU.
I’ve partially silenced my Venus changing the default chassis fan.
The same for AKitio Node Pro, great great enclosure, 500W PSU should be enough for Vega 56 but in the long run is better to change chassis fan, it is noticeable.

On my channel you can see many videos of Mantiz Venus, but they’re in Italian.  I’ve also heavily modded Venus to host a Vega 64

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December 31, 2018 11:02 am  
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The Mantiz Venus is the most well-rounded eGPU enclosure. It's my choice if I can only have one.

@itsage, I am thinking of buying one, too, but won't be able to return it. How can you compare it to the Asus XG Station Pro? What about the noise? The one I can buy has an custom PSU  600W, but I hear this lower fan is very loud? It there something that can be done about this? What about the airflow in the box? The noise and heat are my biggest concern about the Mantiz Venus.

The Asus XG Station Pro is prob the second quietest enclosure next to the Black Magic.

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December 31, 2018 6:51 pm  
Posted by: Eightarmedpet

 

The Asus XG Station Pro is prob the second quietest enclosure next to the Black Magic.

This is correct, I had Black Magic eGPU, Asus XG Station Pro, Razer Core X and Auros Gaming Box at home and the noisy increased from "left" to "right".

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January 9, 2019 3:27 pm  

Hi there 

With prices very close to each other does it really make sense to go for the ref Vega 64 vs the 56 nitro + or gigabyte

Apart from being a bigger card does the 64 have any other advantages ?

A. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb

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January 9, 2019 4:45 pm  

@tsakal The only reference RX Vega 64 I'd buy is the Liquid Cooled version. Go for non-reference design if it's air cooled.

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January 9, 2019 4:53 pm  

@itsage
Thanks for that 

What is the advantage for going for the Vega 64 vs the Vega 56

A. 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb

B. 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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