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Hello guys,

I have been here for a while, going through the whole process since it born, as a I really love the concept of having a mobile laptop turn into a graphics workstation/game rig (well, kind of, with all the limitation of the memory and processor which a mobile laptop has, even though it worth it). As I love the concept and the enthusiastic community here, I was part of the group buy of the Mantiz Venus too ;).

I started with the following configuration:

- Early-2013 Macbook Pro Retina GT650M

- Mantiz Venus TB3 enclosure

- MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X

Even that in MacOS worked like a charm (really easy, no problem at all, since the beginning), in Windows were really complicated, and even with the Nando DIY kit, I was not able to make it work. I though that could be feasible knowing that there were some mbp retina 2012 GT650M working out there, but I am convinced that the early 2013 retina having the same graphics card, had other differences, which made it really difficult to make it work. reinstalling windows several times and doing hundreds of tries, I was not able to make it work.

I think I should have created a thread (which is the reason I created this one) in order to get some help from others, but at that time I was really busy at work, and some personal issues which made it impossible, and I lost the patience which made me update my laptop (which I was thinking doing it in the beginning of the next year either way).

Now I updated the system to mid-2017 Macbook Pro RP560. So I have now:

- mid-2017 Macbook Pro RP560

- Mantiz Venus TB3 enclosure

- MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X

- Monitor Dell U2713HM (2560x1440 via DisplayPort)

 

So let's talk about what I did till now, and I was not able to make it work. The purpose is to track what I did till now and update the guide to make it work.

 

MacOS:

Sadly, I started with MacOS 10.13, so I couldn't try before. So, still not working 🙁

Now, as most of you are doing, I am following, and using the yifanlu's guide. I was not able to make it work, but I am sure we are near to the solution, because I am getting the cursor in a black screen, like a lot of people is getting. The case and the graphics card are recognized by the OS, which is really good.

Just one note that I don't know if anyone said before: in the moment of the nVidia web drivers installation, there were an error saying something like "there were an error trying to install the driver..." which I acepted and keep going. This happen twice, the first time I installed (yesterday), and today when I reinstalled to the new drivers that came out as someone adviced. Same results though. 

Boot procedure: to get cursor, booting without attached, re-login, otherwise just black screen without cursors. If I attach before power on, internal screen is turned off, and if I disconnect, just restarts.

The correct procedure as @unknownsolo said here:

– Make sure SIP is ENABLED
– Install nVidia drivers (this is important, if you get an error during nvidia driver installation, it won’t work and SIP is most likely still DISABLED, you need to make sure SIP is ENABLED. The nvidia driver install should run without any errors. Try to boot to recovery and enable SIP then try installing nvidia driver again without any errors)
– Once nvidia driver is installed, boot to recovery, disable SIP
– Boot to OSX, install the app in the first page then reboot
– Boot to OSX, Login, plug-in eGPU, logout…at this point your external monitor should be working

 

Win10:

I was trying to follow this guide, but there are several things I don't need to do (maybe I am wrong, so just correct me, please), as I am not interested to enable my internal screen.

I don't need this from the guide:

- To make it work in a internal screen as I just want to use my eGPU with an external screen. So I don't need to do apple_set_os.efi (USB nor ESP).

- Fix error 12. As I already have the large memory, having a mbp 2017. I don't know if I have to use the jzfgs, I already tried, but is like nothing happens... but as it says no workaround needed, I think I don't need anything.

 

What I did:

- Installing Windows, I installed the Fall Creator's update, because in any place on the guide said anything against it. Some of the people here said to use the Anniversary update, but I don't know if it matters or not, as I have seen several successfull configuration which they use the one I installed. I tried to install the nVidia drivers directly, and I retrieve a yellow bang with the error code 43, which I don't know the meaning of it.

- As I didn't have the latest version of the Mantiz Venus firmware, I remove the graphics card form the device, and I installed the NUC thunderbolt driver, and I installed the firmware succesfully. So it is supposed that I have it updated.

- I removed the graphics card driver (after installing nVidia drivers) and I removed both, radeon (from bootcamp) and nVidia (the one I download and installed) ones. Then I installed again, via browse from the device manager. No luck, still error code 43...

Boot procedure: I have to boot in windows with the device connected or the computer will restart automatically.

So, I am getting error code 43, don't understand the meaning, or what to do next.

Maybe I forgot to do something, please let me know.

EDIT: just changing from the left upper port to the right upper port everything works on Windows!!

It seems that now everything works!! Let's work with it and learn/refine/improve anything, any suggestion is welcome!!

 

This is all for now, I think. Please let me know your comments, thoughts, misunderstadings I made... whatever you want.

Thank  you very much to everyone that can help in this process in order to make it work. Hope is much easier this way.

Greetings to everyone and sorry for my English.

 

E.




NEW UPDATE: 
Move to AMD!!

I became tired of nVidia, so I sold my 1080ti. I think that is a very good card, but I am not a Windows user and I don't understand the support of nVidia on MacOS.

I bought, and I am waiting for my Gigabyte RX Vega 64 Gaming OC and PSU corsair SF600 (platinum, not gold) to use it on my Mantiz Venus.
Hope this, makes everything easier. I will start a new guide soon!!

Just to clarify, as I said in one of my posts:
I am not fan of anyone, I just have a problem with nVidia on MacOS, and as an Apple's user (I don't like windows, I just use it from time to time just for gaming, and 10 times per year), I don't want to keep with the same problem, and that's the reason for my change. I don't blame anyone, just doing what I think is better for me. If in the future, nVidia has good support on macOS and warranties (meaning: with improved drivers, because it never worked as good as AMD on MacOS; and the warranty of not having the same problem of non supporting for a long period of time on each released MacOS version), and the cards are better than AMD, I will go back with no problems nor hard feelings.
Until then: bye nVidia.

E.


Guide to uninstall nVidia eGPU software with fr34k's script in Mojave:

First step, I wanted to uninstall everything as I am moving from nVidia to AMD card. So I wanted to clean the system up from nVidia software before the new card's installation.

I uninstalled the eGPU software from Mojave (previously installed in 10.13.5 with the same fr34k's script) doing the following:

1) macos-egpu --beta -U -l , then restart (required to remove the IO PCIE Tunnelled patch avoiding the corrupt error). I think this is just necessary if you come from 10.13.5 onwards...
2) macos-egpu --beta -U , and restart again (to remove the other stuff)
Now it is supposed that all the software is finally uninstalled.
What I would like now is to remove the command macOS-eGPU command...

I did in the following way:
sudo rm -rf /usr/local/bin/macos-egpu

Please, correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks!

P.S.: HUGE THANKS all the people who made this script possible, as it worked really well!! Without your support, it would be impossible to have the eGPU in MacOS.

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WINDOWS ONLY:

Here you can see the problem on windows.

device manager

 

NOTES:

- Changed today to a MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X, just for trying same results.

- When I changed to HDMI, it worked, and then swapped to a display port (as HDMI in my monitor just offers till 1920x1080 being 2560x1440) but when I restart again, same problem happens, and even if I changed to HDMI, the problem persists.

Anyone knows? Cheers.

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MacOS udpate!!

Following this, I just did these steps in order to make it work, and worked perfectly and I didn’t have to reinstall!!

 

1) uninstall the NVIDIA driver
 
2) from /Library/Extensions/ remove NVIDIAEGPUSupport.kext
 
3) rebuild caches
if [[ $(test -f /System/Library/PrelinkedKernels/prelinkedkernel && echo 1) ]]
then 
rm /System/Library/PrelinkedKernels/prelinkedkernel 2>/dev/null
fi 
if [[ $(test -f /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/kernelcache && echo 1) ]] 
then 
rm /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/kernelcache 2>/dev/null 
fi 
sudo touch /System/Library/Extensions 
sudo kextcache -q -update-volume / 
sudo touch /System/Library/Extensions 
sudo kextcache -system-caches
 
 
4) boot to recovery (Command (⌘) + R) and enable SIP
csrutil enable
 
5) boot into macOS and install NVidia driver without errors
 
6) boot to recovery and disable SIP
csrutil disable
 
7) boot into macOS and install NVDAEGPUSupport-v1.pkg
 
8) restarted and log in, connected the EGPU with the external display
 
9) log out and the external screen works
 
Cheers.
 
I just have to make it work in Windows!! If someone could help me, I will appreciate it!! Thanks 😉

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I have the same laptop with 1080TI Founders Edition and Asus XG Station 2 paired with Acer Predator X34 using DisplayPort cable (3440x1440)

It’s plug and play, not a single mod needed to make it work in Windows. HOWEVER, don’t use the left ports, use the right ports. I had similar issues using the left ports. Using the right ports work perfectly. Also, like you mentioned, make sure the egpu is already plugged in before boot.

All I had to do to make mine work is simply install boot camp, shutdown so I can plug in my egpu, boot with egpu plugged in, install Nvidia drivers AND THATS IT. I didn’t even have to change/update my thunderbolt drivers like some suggest in other threads.

 

hope this helps

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Also, is your Mac update above with 10.13 or 10.13.1?

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Thanks for your reply unknownsolo (and for the MacOS tips in the other thread), I will try it tomorrow in Windows, here is pretty late. I am in 10.13, and I will not update till there is a nVidia driver 😉

EDIT: damn, I couldn't resist at 4.14 am!! Yes unknownsolo, just changing port to right, works perfectly (thank you very much), didn't need to do anything more on windows!! My system works in both Windows and MacOS!!

EDIT 2: didn't realize that there is a version of the nVidia drivers for 10.13.1 now!! Didn't try so far... if someone tries, please, let me know!!

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How can I use the macbook in clamshell mode, mac and win?? I don't like to use the big screen with the internal one. Thanks!!

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Working my way through your post @ed_co

Have copied and pasted exactly what you put into terminal, is there anything else I need to know as I am not sure it ran right? Does it need to be in recovery mode? Do I need to disable or enable anything? 

Below is exactly what I pasted into terminal from my Desktop from a normal login, but without the "".

"if [[ $(test -f /System/Library/PrelinkedKernels/prelinkedkernel && echo 1) ]]

 

Screen Shot 2017 11 01 at 07.56.17

then
rm /System/Library/PrelinkedKernels/prelinkedkernel 2>/dev/null
fi
if [[ $(test -f /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/kernelcache && echo 1) ]]
then
rm /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/kernelcache 2>/dev/null
fi
sudo touch /System/Library/Extensions
sudo kextcache -q -update-volume /
sudo touch /System/Library/Extensions
sudo kextcache -system-caches"

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Hey @eightarmedpet, in order to run this commands, you should be able to run is as admin, and as Juan C. Yunis recommend, the better way to go is putting rebuild cache commands inside a sh script, something like rebuild_caches.sh and make it runnable by chmod +x rebuild_caches.sh, and to run it, best way to do it, it's by going into root account, sudo su, then ./rebuild_caches.sh and wait for it 😉

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PROCEDURE TO UPDATE TO NEW VERSIONS!!

OK, just updated to 10.13.1 and NVDAEGPUSupport-v2

Steps:

1) Update to 10.13.1

2) Enable SIP

3) Install nVidia driver through the nVidia Driver Manager

4) Disable SIP

5) Install NVDAEGPUSupport-v2

6) Login/Logout

7) Done

Cheers

P.S.: Should be great to be able to make it work without Login/Logout procedure... 

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By the way, I didn't try it before, but if I plug the Mantiz before login, it works, and I don't need to go through the login/logout method...

EDIT: the above-mentioned could have side effects, so maybe is better to avoid it

Should be great to leave it plugged all the time... 😉

Anyway, need the laptop to work in clamshell mode now!! Anyone??

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Hi,

Thank you for your little tutorial. 

I have been looking into getting the exact setup as you have for a while. I have just purchased the lastest MBP 15" 3.1Ghz. Could you tell me how well this setup performs under windows? May be you could provide some FPS and resolution under some games you might be playing? 

 

Last thing I heard is that clamshell mode is not yet supported.. 🙁

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Sorry, I am not a gamer, so I will not give you games FPS.

Still missing:

- Clamshell support.

- eGPU audio support.

- Hot plug...

Thinking about going to Vega 64... unless Apple and nVidia can start talking with each other. It is a pity how much I spent in nVidia...

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Are you having any problems with Chrome (or web apps like Slack)? When I load chrome the laptop screen turns off, the browser is still display but is going super slow.

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@Mactastic08 It never happened to me, sorry.

Trying the new method to reinstall using:
bash <(curl -s  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/learex/macOS-eGPU/master/macOS-eGPU.sh)  -r

I have to test it carefully, but it looks good. It returned to 106 package, which is supposed to perform better...
EDIT: Worked pretty good as expected 😉

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Updated to 10.13.4 with no problems.
No issues so far, except the usual things:
- Login-logout-login process...
- When turning off after using eGPU, I have a black screen of death, and when you return to macOS it always says that there was a problem in the OS and had to restart...
For the rest, pretty much the same. I think with no improvements, except having the last OS.
Hopefully this could be resolved one day.
EDIT: just when I post this, I had glitches in my screen, like a diagonal thick line... I couldn't get a picture, and if I get it again, hopefully I can take a photo...

Here the log:

$ bash <(curl -s  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/learex/macOS-eGPU/master/macOS-eGPU.sh) 



macOS-eGPU.sh (v0.1α)

USAGE TERMS of macOS-eGPU.sh
# 1. You may use this script for personal use.
# 2. You may continue development of this script at it's GitHub homepage.
# 3. You may not redistribute this script or portions thereof from outside of it's GitHub homepage without explicit written permission.
# 4. You may not compile, assemble or in any other way make the source code unreadable by a human.
# 5. You may not implement this script or protions therof into other scripts and/or applications without explicit written permission.
# 6. You may not use this script, or portions thereof, for any commercial purposes.
# 7. You accept the license terms of all downloaded and/or executed content, even content that has only indirectly been been downloaded and/or executed by macOS-eGPU.sh.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
# AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
# LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
# OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN
# THE SOFTWARE.

Do you agree with the license terms of the script and wish to continue?
[y]es [n]o : y



The script will now close (kill) all programs.
Please abort the script now should you wish to do it manually and save your work.
Please do not, under any circumstances abort the script later during the execution.
This might break your system.

The script might automatically reboot the system after successful execution.
To safely abort the script now, press ^C.
Continuing in
15..14..13..12..11..10..9..8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1..0





macOS-eGPU.sh (v0.1α)

Accept license terms... [done]
Killing all other running programs...App Store, Google Chrome
 [OK]
Fetching system information...
 macOS info [done]
 system integrity protection [done]
 thunderbolt version [done]
 GPU information [done]
 installed eGPU software [done]
 installed patches [done]
 installed programs [done]
Setting internal switches...
Fetching CUDA needs...
 fetching CUDA requiring apps list [done]
 preparing matching [done]
 matching [done]
Checking for incompatibilies and up to date software...
 NVIDIA drivers [update scheduled]
 NVIDIA eGPU enabler [update scheduled]
 AMD legacy drivers [skip]
 T82 unblocker [skip]
 NVIDIA dGPU deactivator [skip]
 macOS 10.13.4 NVIDIA patch [install scheduled]
 macOS 10.13.4 thunderbolt 1/2 unlock [skip, not needed]
 CUDA software
 CUDA drivers [install scheduled]
 CUDA developer driver [skip]
 CUDA toolkit [skip]
 CUDA samples [skip]
Checking if SIP is sufficently disabled... [OK]


Download external content...
--- NVIDIA drivers ---
######################################################################## 100.0%
--- NVIDIA eGPU enabler ---
######################################################################## 100.0%
--- CUDA driver ---
######################################################################## 100.0%
Checking for elevated privileges...
 elevating privileges
 Password:
 checking for elevated privileges [OK]


Uninstalling...
 NVIDIA driver [done]
 NVIDIA eGPU support [done]
Installing...
 NVIDIA driver [done]
 NVIDIA eGPU support [done]
 NVIDIA macOS 10.13.4 unlock [done]
 CUDA [done]
Patching...
File Doesn't Exist, Will Create: 


Finish...
 cleaning system [done]
Rebuilding caches
 kext cache [done]
 system cache [done]
A reboot will soon be performed...
5..4..3..2..1..0
reboot: / is busy updating, waiting for lock (this might take approx 15-30s)...
reboot: / is busy updating; waiting for lock

$ 
 [Restored 8 May 2018 at 18:18:35]
Last login: Tue May 8 18:18:32 on console
Restored session: Tue May 8 18:17:56 CEST 2018
$ 

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I realised that I didn't installed the security update after installing 10.13.4. So, after the installation I executed again the script as before.
The difference was, the script realised the CUDA driver was already installed and with the latest version so, didn't need to install it. For the rest, pretty the same as the previous log.
Pretty straight forward. Nice, easy and clean 😉

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So to summarize, no problems using the Mantiz Venus with an Nvidia GPU in macOS and Win10? 🙂

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Installed 10.13.5 and the script again. No problems whatsoever 😉

@BossE
Just few minor workarounds, but all correct if you follow the guide...

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Hey!
So  I have the Mantis Venus coming to me in the mail, and currently have a Mac book Pro 13 inch, no touch bar, 2017. I also have a GT X 1070 and a 1 TB SSD i plan on putting games on.
So i have a few questions. 
Can you have the graphics card plugged in and switch between Mac OS and windows boot camp without unplugging?
Can you unplug the box while the mac is running? or do I have to turn it off?
Also, will windows just allow plug and play even if I decide not to run the script on the high siera side of things? 
I have more questions but I don't want to bombard you and you may inadvertently answer them for me!
Thanks a bunch in advance

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Posted by: branch_bryce

Hey!
So  I have the Mantis Venus coming to me in the mail, and currently have a Mac book Pro 13 inch, no touch bar, 2017. I also have a GT X 1070 and a 1 TB SSD i plan on putting games on.
So i have a few questions. 
Can you have the graphics card plugged in and switch between Mac OS and windows boot camp without unplugging?
Can you unplug the box while the mac is running? or do I have to turn it off?
Also, will windows just allow plug and play even if I decide not to run the script on the high siera side of things? 
I have more questions but I don't want to bombard you and you may inadvertently answer them for me!
Thanks a bunch in advance

Sorry, didn't realize that someone wrote me...
First, we don't have same versions of Macbook so, everything here could be not useful for you, it changes a lot between 13" and 15" models.
I did the unplug/plug procedure just in macOS and plug it before turn on to boot in Windows.
Even though, I think now you will know how to do it...
Hope it helps to someone.

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Tired of nVidia, sold 1080ti.
Waiting for my Gigabyte Vega 64 Gaming OC and PSU corsair SF600.
Hope this will be easier. I will update my guide.

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Ha! I did the same thing and switched the 1080ti for the Vega 64 - Let us know how the PSU update goes, might be interested in doing the same thing.

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Tired of nVidia, sold 1080ti.
Waiting for my Gigabyte Vega 64 Gaming OC and PSU corsair SF600.
Hope this will be easier. I will update my guide.

Yeah the war between Nvidia and Apple is just like kids fight. According this  today MacBook users signed petition against Mojave nvidia drivers support.

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Let’s get one thing clear. Mac Pro tower owners were the only group of customers to whom Apple officially sold standard PCIe Nvidia GPU support. All but the MacPro5,1 (Mid 2012) are on the vintage and obsolete list as of late 2018. Apple is not obligated to the demands of Hackintosh and Nvidia eGPU Mac users.

I’m neither a fan of Apple nor Nvidia but this is more of Nvidia’s issue than Apple. They may not come to someone’s house and not follow the rules all the while assume they are always welcome.

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Agree - If the relationship improves I would head back too. There is a lot Apple could do to make this a way better user experience and not have to "fight the system." With the time I have now with kids/family etc; I needed something plug and play Nvidia didn't provide that - The windows 10 experience is 90% there I think (with an AMD card.)

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I am not fan of anyone, I just have a problem with nVidia on MacOS, and as an Apple's user (I don't like windows, I just use it from time to time just for gaming, and 10 times per year), I don't want to keep with the same problem, and that's the reason for my change. I don't blame anyone, just doing what I think is better for me. If in the future, nVidia has good support on macOS and warranties (meaning: with improved drivers, because it never worked as good as AMD on MacOS; and the warranty of not having the same problem of non supporting for a long period of time on each released MacOS version), and the cards are better than AMD, I will go back with no problems nor hard feelings.
Until then: bye nVidia.

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I am not fan of anyone, I just have a problem with nVidia on MacOS, and as an Apple's user (I don't like windows, I just use it from time to time just for gaming, and 10 times per year), I don't want to keep with the same problem, and that's the reason for my change. I don't blame anyone, just doing what I think is better for me. If in the future, nVidia has good support on macOS and warranties (meaning: with improved drivers, because it never worked as good as AMD on MacOS; and the warranty of not having the same problem of non supporting for a long period of time on each released MacOS version), and the cards are better than AMD, I will go back with no problems nor hard feelings.
Until then: bye nVidia.

I recently purchased a Sonnet 650W with a Gigabyte RX Vega 64 OC Gaming 8G GPU with a Macbook pro 13 "touchbar 2017. I have a number of problems. In mi opinion, I think that this GIGABYTE VEGA RX 64 OC GAMING 8G isn't compatible with MacOs,despite Sonnet having this GPU as preferred in their compatibility list of GPU's.  Thank you 

You can view all the problems detailed in my last post. Also, soy de Madrid! Si lo deseas podemos hablar en español.

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Look @skarhen, first of all, you don't have a explanation/detailed guide to explain what you are saying (as you said you explained in detail) in your thread:

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Hi all!

I recently purchased a Sonnet 650W with a Gigabyte RX Vega 64 OC Gaming 8G GPU with a Macbook pro 13 "touchbar 2017. I have a number of problems:

The internal display: macOS recognizes the GPU but the applications do not start, they keep loading and looks blocked. To eject the GPU from the menu is also blocked. Also, the activity monitor stop working when the eGPU is connected. Furthermore, when I connect the eGPU the fan velocity is high and in many times  the computer freezes.

The external display connected by HDMI through the GPU is black.

Any solution or suggestion to this problem? In my opinion, I think that this GIGABYTE VEGA RX 64 OC GAMING 8G isn't compatible with MacOs, despite Sonnet having this GPU as preferred in their compatibility list of GPU's.  Thank you

What you wrote is useless. I am pretty sure you didn't even try nor read enough. You didn't provide all the test you did in order to say that.
So, before saying anything with BOLD letters, please read and try, A LOT.

When I read your post yesterday, I almost freak out, because I sold my card, and I got this one, based on other reviews with the card, which claimed it was plug and play. And I trusted you when you said that, and I was scared and about to think to return the card and all of that... but then I was reading your statements, and your other post (you just have 2) and I didn't even pay attention because you just talk nonsense without any prove nor test, nor anything... Having the other guy with a proper thread which is trustable enough.

Today, I have just received the card GIGABYTE RX VEGA 64 GAMING OC, and I tried, and it was just PLUG AND PLAY (the more plug and play  and compatible card I have ever use in MacOS), without any other problem except is noisier (and with coil whine, but I researched about it and pretty much every AMD card suffers from it badly) than the one I have (which was REALLY quiet). I didn't do anything except plug it and use it. I could even eject and connect several times, without any problem with it.

So, before make statements, and ensure something, try to do it with some foundations, because maybe you can't keep them. You can confuse others. And be careful with your BOLD letters.

Talking like you did is not healthy nor helpful, please don't do that again (at least with me, maybe others don't care).

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Look @skarhen, first of all, you don't have a explanation/detailed guide to explain what you are saying (as you said you explained in detail... LOL). What you wrote is useless. I am pretty sure you didn't even try or read enough. You didn't provide all the test you did in order to say that.
So, before saying anything with BOLD letters, please read and try, A LOT.

When I read your post yesterday, I almost freak out, because I sold my card, and I got this one, based on other reviews with the card, which claimed it was plug and play. And I trusted you when you said that, and I was scared and about to think to return the card and all of that... but then I was reading what you statements, and your other post (you just have 2) and I didn't even pay attention because you just talk nonsense without any prove nor test, nor anything... Having the other guy with a proper thread which is trustable enough.

Today, I have just received the card, and I tried, and it was just PLUG AND PLAY, without any other problem except is noisier (and with coil whine, but I researched about it and pretty much every AMD card suffers from it badly) than the one I have (which was REALLY quiet). I didn't do anything except plug it and use it. I could even eject and connect several times, without any problem with it.

So, before make statements, and ensure something, try to do it with some foundations, because maybe you can't keep them. You can confuse others. And be careful with your BOLD letters.

Talking like you did is not healthy nor helpful, please don't do that again (at least with me, maybe others don't care).

Wow, it was not my intention to create FUD. I just wrote everything that is happening to me with my 2017 MBP TouchBar and the Sonnet 650W along with this GPU. It is a very positive news that you are making this card work, I would like to know how you have made it work. In my current situation I can not make it work and many of the applications that I start with this eGPU are frozen.I'm sorry if I bothered you, I tried my best detailing the problems that I have had with this GPU (You have to understand that I am not an expert at all in this area, my explanations may not be very specific but I try to detail it as best as I can). Could you please help me know what your configuration is to try to understand why it is not working in my MBP? Does your card work externally and internally? I'm sorry if my post bothered you.

My Mac:

MacBookPro14,2 (13-inch, 2017, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
Intel Core i5 (3,1 GHz)
Version 10.14.2 (18C54)
Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB

My eGPU:
Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box 650W 
Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 Gaming OC 8GB

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Posted by: skarhen

It is a very positive news that you are making this card work, I would like to know how you have made it work.

If you follow the review link I post in my previous thread you can see that are other people which can too, before me.
I made it work in the following way:
- Put the card inside the thunderbolt case.
- Plug the power cord to the case, and the thunderbolt to the macbook pro.
- Use it, as is plug and play. DONE.

Posted by: skarhen

In my current situation I can not make it work and many of the applications that I start with this eGPU are frozen.

It never happened to me so far, nothing frozen here. But have you even said what applications?? Have you said what did you tried and how? Have you said anything?
Look, I am not here to let you know what you have to do, but at least, provide always all the information you can, ordered and clear, then you can receive the feedback and help. Do it on your thread, as you can compile all the information there and your progress... but come on... you are not helping anyone to help you, you just talked bad, and that's it.

Posted by: skarhen

I tried my best detailing the problems that I have had with this GPU (You have to understand that I am not an expert at all in this area, my explanations may not be very specific but I try to detail it as best as I can). Could you please help me know what your configuration is to try to understand why it is not working in my MBP? Does your card work externally and internally? I'm sorry if my post bothered you.

No, you didn't (if this is trying your best...). No one expects you to be an expert in anything. I am not. But at least I try things, and I ask properly and with details.
I use the card externally (and with the mac closed), and I think in order to use it internally, you should use it with a dummy dongle (maybe now it changed, and there are other procedures).  As I have no plans to use it internally, I am not sure. I am pretty sure there are a lot of guides in the forum.

Posted by: skarhen

Could you please help me know what your configuration is to try to understand why it is not working in my MBP? Does your card work externally and internally?

When you post in your thread all the details: all the applications you used that got frozen, and how did you use them, even which ports did you use, etc... I will take a look and maybe I could be helpful (and maybe not me, but others).

No apologies needed, just forget about it. I didn't want to bother you too, just to make you think. Think before posting, because maybe what you said is not true, and can confuse/difficult others.

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Posted by: skarhen

It is a very positive news that you are making this card work, I would like to know how you have made it work.

If you follow the review link I post in my previous thread you can see that are other people which can too, before me.
I made it work in the following way:
- Put the card inside the thunderbolt case.
- Plug the power cord to the case, and the thunderbolt to the macbook pro.
- Use it, as is plug and play. DONE.

Posted by: skarhen

In my current situation I can not make it work and many of the applications that I start with this eGPU are frozen.

It never happened to me so far, nothing frozen here. But have you even said what applications?? Have you said what did you tried and how? Have you said anything?
Look, I am not here to let you know what you have to do, but at least, provide always all the information you can, ordered and clear, then you can receive the feedback and help. Do it on your thread, as you can compile all the information there and your progress... but come on... you are not helping anyone to help you, you just talked bad, and that's it.

Posted by: skarhen

I tried my best detailing the problems that I have had with this GPU (You have to understand that I am not an expert at all in this area, my explanations may not be very specific but I try to detail it as best as I can). Could you please help me know what your configuration is to try to understand why it is not working in my MBP? Does your card work externally and internally? I'm sorry if my post bothered you.

No, you didn't (if this is trying your best...). No one expects you to be an expert in anything. I am not. But at least I try things, and I ask properly and with details.
I use the card externally (and with the mac closed), and I think in order to use it internally, you should use it with a dummy dongle (maybe now it changed, and there are other procedures).  As I have no plans to use it internally, I am not sure. I am pretty sure there are a lot of guides in the forum.

Posted by: skarhen

Could you please help me know what your configuration is to try to understand why it is not working in my MBP? Does your card work externally and internally?

When you post in your thread all the details: all the applications you used that got frozen, and how did you use them, even which ports did you use, etc... I will take a look and maybe I could be helpful (and maybe not me, but others).

No apologies needed, just forget about it. I didn't want to bother you too, just to make you think. Think before posting, because maybe what you said is not true, and can confuse/difficult others.

Looks like installing Pure-wrangler. sh AMD Legacy Ti82enclosures and TB1/2/3 and deactivating FileVault the GPU is now working  🙂 . However, the HDMi ports aren't working and nowadays I'm waiting my new LG screen (Which has DisplayPort). I will put this info in my thread if someone has the same problem with my same set-up, maybe someone could benefit of this info.

One last thing @ed_co, in your set-up:
a) Your external monitor is connected trough DisplayPort?
b) If this is the case, have you tried if the HDMi ports are working correctly with the GPU? 

Thanks four your help

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Posted by: skarhen
Looks like installing Pure-wrangler. sh AMD Legacy Ti82enclosures and TB1/2/3 and deactivating FileVault the GPU is now working  🙂 . However, the HDMi ports aren't working and nowadays I'm waiting my new LG screen (Which has DisplayPort). I will put this info in my thread if someone has the same problem with my same set-up, maybe someone could benefit of this info.

One last thing @ed_co, in your set-up:
a) Your external monitor is connected trough DisplayPort?
b) If this is the case, have you tried if the HDMi ports are working correctly with the GPU? 

Thanks four your help

Your Sonnet TB3 box is TI83, not 82... You don't need ANYTHING to make it work, why use pure_wrangler?? READ.

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