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zmyslony
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System Specs

  • Mid 1018 MacBook Pro Touchbar 13" (base model 8GB 256GB)
  • OS: Mac OSX Mojave / Win 10 Home (bootcamp)
  • eGPU: Razer Core X
  • GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 OC DUKE
  • Display: ASUS STRIX 27" XG27VQ 144 Hz
  • SteelSeries keyboard M750 TKL
  • SteelSeries headphones Arctis 5 
  • Razer Basilisk mouse
  • Satechi USB-C adapter (hdmi, SD, 2xUSB 3.1)

 

INSTALLATION
Plug and Play 

UPDATE: Turning off (in device manager) graphics card audio device helped to get current performance.
When leaving audio on, bandwidth slows down and the results would be much worse.

In some games after a while CPU starts to throttle. If that happens in battery options switch the maximum CPU usage to 98%.

HOW IT WORKS?
I get around 50 FPS more than with GTX 1070. It is just what I needed to get stable 144 FPS in most modern shooters (PUBG, R6)
RTX futures are still to come so performance might be better in the near future.
Overclocking ends up with graphic artifacts on screen, so currently I gave up.

Overall RTX 2080 performance doesn't improve much, but FPS are much more stable and games feel very smooth.

1. PUBG (PlayerUnknown Battlegrounds)

pubg2
pubg

External display

Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Medium/High
FPS:  avg ~140 (min 100 - max 200)
When there is a lot of people I have some fps drops.

 

2. Rainbow Six Siege

fps1
fps

External display
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Very High (+Ultra Textures Pack)
FPS:  avg ~170 (min 130 - max 237)
Works great. 

3. Far Cry 5

farcry5

External display
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Settings: HIGH
FPS: avg ~86
Game version 1.0 without Ultra Textures. Looks like CPU bottlenecks when a lot is happening on screen.

 

4. Call of Duty: Black Ops 4

zombies
blackout

External display
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Settings: Very High
Blackout FPS : ~110
Zombies FPS: ~90

BENCHMARKS

unigine

The results are very similar to Nvidia FE.

FINAL THOUGHTS
I feel like upgrade from old setup(GTX 1070) was a mistake. Performance on current setup is not worth the money and waiting (I waited 2 months for my RTX 2080). 1070 or 1080 might be the sweet spot for little 13" MacBook Pro, and RTX 2080 might be just too much. Going for the non-referent MSI RTX 2080 Duke was also not worth it, performance is the same as itsage's build(Founders Edition RTX 2080) 

But don't get me wrong - I am happy with such build, and I will stick with it for a while now.

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13" MacBook Pro + MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Duke (Razer Core X)

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + RTX 2080 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core X) + Win10 [build link]  


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Eightarmedpet
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50fps extra is pretty decent IMO! Although saying that I'm getting 60-70fps on PUBG with the same settings (maybe AA is lower) @1440 which I imagine is close to what you'd get with the 2080?

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Ningauble77
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I recently sold my gtx 1080 and replaced it with an rtx 2080.  Whether the Macbook Pro CPU is a bottleneck probably depends alot on which games you play and how many cores they actually fully load.  I play several MMO games (Elder Scrolls Online and World of Warcraft) and they both run basically identically on my i7 13" MBpro and a 5960x desktop overclocked to 4.3ghz on all cores.  Those games never really utilize more than 40-50 percent of the CPU resources and allow it to run at 4.1ghz pretty much indefinitely.  Those games are ultimately single core cpu limited and there was a big jump in max fps but not any improvement in min fps going to the 2080 from the 1080.

I imagine any games that are multithreaded well enough to fully load all 8 threads would perform noticably worse than on a desktop, since the sustained turbo with all 4 cores fully loaded is more like 3-3.4 ghz in the MBpro chassis due to thermal limits.

However, several games I play which are much more gpu limited run much much better at 4k with the 2080.  No Man's Sky and Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice were not really playable at 4k with a 1080 and are both very playable with the rtx 2080.

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2019 16 Macbook Pro + Core v2 + Radeon VII MacOS 10.15.1
Core X Chroma + RTX 2080 Windows 10 1909
Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming ITX/TB3, Ryzen 5 3400G + Core v2 + Radeon VII Win10 1909

 
2019 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 [R3K,4C,G] + Radeon VII @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core V2) + Win10 1909 [build link]  


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zmyslony
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@eightarmedpet I was still editing my post, so now you have real fps values and screens Smile

@ningauble77 I agree, but the problem with notebook CPU's are that they are theoretically powerful or during 5 min benchmark, but after 1-2 hours of hardcore gaming I did expirienced some blue screen or crashes. 

What is important to say that it depends what refresh rate you want. I play lots of shooters so I need 144 Hz and around 140 FPS.
But Far Cry 5 for example is very playable on those 90 FPS.
It is also worth to notice, that RTX 2080 works well with higher resolutions, thats why 1080p performance gains might not be so noticable.

I was a little disappointed at first, but now I think I am getting on with this RTX 2080. Maybe I expected too much, I thought for that amount of money I could play everything on Ultra settings. We'll see what the future brings.

13" MacBook Pro + MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Duke (Razer Core X)

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + RTX 2080 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Razer Core X) + Win10 [build link]  


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Posted by: zmyslony

@eightarmedpet I was still editing my post, so now you have real fps values and screens Smile

@ningauble77 I agree, but the problem with notebook CPU's are that they are theoretically powerful or during 5 min benchmark, but after 1-2 hours of hardcore gaming I did expirienced some blue screen or crashes. 

What is important to say that it depends what refresh rate you want. I play lots of shooters so I need 144 Hz and around 140 FPS.
But Far Cry 5 for example is very playable on those 90 FPS.
It is also worth to notice, that RTX 2080 works well with higher resolutions, thats why 1080p performance gains might not be so noticable.

I was a little disappointed at first, but now I think I am getting on with this RTX 2080. Maybe I expected too much, I thought for that amount of money I could play everything on Ultra settings. We'll see what the future brings.

Yes on 1080p I find also there’s no advantages over 1070 on my laptop, only on 4K or 1440p. I don’t have external high refresh rate monitor, only 144Hz on my laptop, pubg ultra 1080p is around 100fps on internal laptop with PCIe3x4 lanes, but I prefer playing on external 4K ultra 60fps. Far cry I got lower FPS around high 70ish on 1080p since due data looping on internal screen, but mostly I play on high 4K 50fps. Btw my card is xc 2080 evga.

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Zipski
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does 2080 work under Mojave?

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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OliverB
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I was thinking about buying the RTX2080 but I read that (for current software) it's no better than a GTX1080Ti. Ok, GTX1080Ti is still quite expensive, but it is performing superb and it is widely supported.

I am very happy with the benchmarks for Setup Asus Station XP Pro - 2018 15" MacBookPro, even though it is pity, that the dGPU Radeon now is for nothing but trouble.

Those are my benchmarks, haven't seen any better yet and still I do not have the i9 Version of MBP 2018:

UValleyMBP2018
TimeSpyMBP2018b

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
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OliverB
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Posted by: Ningauble77

I imagine any games that are multithreaded well enough to fully load all 8 threads would perform noticably worse than on a desktop, since the sustained turbo with all 4 cores fully loaded is more like 3-3.4 ghz in the MBpro chassis due to thermal limits.

This is not really true. Thanks to the fantastic eGPUs a notebook can outperform desktops. See my reply shortly before!

A collegue of mine said before that I would never a reach a desktop PC, now he is arguing that a desktop PC can have more multiple gpus. What a loser arguing in that way...

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
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Eightarmedpet
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A MacBook Pro outperforming a "4K gaming PC"? #mindblown

I REALLY hope the incoming MacMini's have the same i7/i9 option because then they will be a super appealing proposition.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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