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mac_editor
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@juan_c_yunis IMO the entire recent Assassin’s Creed releases are crap on AMD. A 1070 delivers V64 like performance in Odyssey (which I ironically got as a bundle with the V64).

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Juan C. Yunis
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@mac_editor i know, funny thing is that Odyssey is supposed to be optimized for Radeon lol, my dedicated gaming PC with Core i7 8700K + GTX 1080 Ti runs it at 4K 50-55fps. Origin on the other hand runs smoother.

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jerry Kansai
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Posted by: Juan C. Yunis

@joi_kansai i agree with Odyssey, but Forza Horizon 4 is giving me great performance gains compared to my Vega 64, it used to be at 38-44 to 53-60 running at 3440x1440 Ultra settings.

Vega 64 like that game 🙂 I think i saw earlier on some desktop benchmarks in amd forum or somewhere, i forgot, it beats 1080ti when I’m not wrong.

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Monaldinio
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Hi Folks, 
it's the first time I write here. But I have been reading the forum for a long time.

I'm thinking about getting an eGPU Setup. I would like to use the internal Display of my IMac 27 5k 2017 i5 7600k Radeon Pro 580. That should be possible, right? After all I've read in this forum, this means a reduction of gpu power by 30-35%. The Razer Core X should be the right enclosure for me. Now I have to decide between a Vega64 Sapphire Nitro+ or a Radeon VII. The Vega64 is currently available for 440 €, the Radeon VII costs 300 € more. In terms of performance, compared to my current igpu RP 580, is the vega64 worth it?  How much more gpu power could I expect? Or should i go for the Radeon VII? Im a architect and using ArchiCAD, CS6, Render Programs... And somtimes im a gamer too. 
Sorry for my english.  😕

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Juan C. Yunis
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Posted by: Monaldinio

Hi Folks, 
it's the first time I write here. But I have been reading the forum for a long time.

I'm thinking about getting an eGPU Setup. I would like to use the internal Display of my IMac 27 5k 2017 i5 7600k Radeon Pro 580. That should be possible, right? After all I've read in this forum, this means a reduction of gpu power by 30-35%. The Razer Core X should be the right enclosure for me. Now I have to decide between a Vega64 Sapphire Nitro+ or a Radeon VII. The Vega64 is currently available for 440 €, the Radeon VII costs 300 € more. In terms of performance, compared to my current igpu RP 580, is the vega64 worth it?  How much more gpu power could I expect? Or should i go for the Radeon VII? Im a architect and using ArchiCAD, CS6, Render Programs... And somtimes im a gamer too. 
Sorry for my english.  😕

Welcome to the forum, well if you use it for work 16GB comes handy, and it kinda helps you up to future proof your setup, also if you are a gamer they include 3 games worth of $180, and VII is about 30-40% more powerful than Vega 64.

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Monaldinio
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Thank you for your fast reply. How much more power would the Vega64 have compared to the my RP580? Minus the power consumption through the internal display...

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Juan C. Yunis
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Posted by: Monaldinio

Thank you for your fast reply. How much more power would the Vega64 have compared to the my RP580? Minus the power consumption through the internal display...

Vega 64 is still very powerful, compared to the RP580 i would say a lot, but take a look at this website:  https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-64-vs-AMD-RX-580/3933vs3923  

But yeah the TB3 bandwidth is limited and also you are using the internal display but i think it would be a lot, wouldn't make that much of a difference if you are switching from RP580 to RX580, but even switching to a Vega 56 would be pretty good increase.

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Monaldinio
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Mhmmm, the Radeon Pro 580 is more like a RX 570...in my opinion. 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-580.c2968

But okay, Vega64 is 98% faster than a RX570. Minus 35% for using the internal display = 60-63 faster than a RX570. Is this a good upgrade for 440€ + 300€ for the Enclosure?! Don't forget, gaming in mac osx is also slower than windows 10 right?! But i don't like Windows, looks ugly.  LoL

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Posted by: Monaldinio

Mhmmm, the Radeon Pro 580 is more like a RX 570...in my opinion. 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-580.c2968

But okay, Vega64 is 98% faster than a RX570. Minus 35% for using the internal display = 60-63 faster than a RX570. Is this a good upgrade for 440€ + 300€ for the Enclosure?! Don't forget, gaming in mac osx is also slower than windows 10 right?! But i don't like Windows, looks ugly.  LoL

macOS isn’t slower. Porting, OpenGL and other factor can slow down.
good porting like Feral ones, which support Metal 2 gets you same performance on Windows.

http://barefeats.com/warhammer-2-mac-shootout.html


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Kelvin Tan
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@itsage and everyone else,

Okay bit the bullet, installed 10.14.4b3 (after a CCC backup), and injected the PCI ID into AMDX5000.kext. The Radeon VII works with the Razer Core X, but my numbers seems low:

LuxMark v3.1 2019 02 22 16 08 34

While @itsage screenshots show "RX Vega10", mine shows "RX Vega12", is there a reason for the discrepancy?

Edit: just noticed it shows only 20CU, instead of 60CU, in the luxmark rendering test.

I injected the PCI ID into the info.plist in AMDRadeonX5000.kext.

Info.plist 2019 02 22 16 21 54

And repaired permissions afterwhich.

Edit2:Okay silly me I injected the PCI ID into the Vega 12 identifiers instead of the Vega 10 identifiers. Once I added the PCI ID into the Vega 10 identifiers and removed it from the Vega 12 identifiers, everything works with 60CUs showing up. 

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