2016 14" MSI GS40 6QE GTX970M + GTX1080@10Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + Win10[nealqu]^ // Gsync Monitor  

 

nealqu
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June 28, 2017 2:53 am  

HARDWARE

MSI GS40 6QE PHANTOM
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X Plus 
AkiTio Node Thunderbolt 3 External PCIe Box for GPUs
OWC / Other World Computing Thunderbolt 3 Cable (6.5', Black)
AOC G2460PG 144Hz Gsync Monitor.

 

Steps to Make it work

1. Updated the Bios the GS40 to E14A1IMS.110

Detailed steps are on the MSI website on how to do it.
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GS40-6QE-Phantom.html#down-bios
 

2. The thunderbolt update on MSI's website is not up to date so I got one from the link below.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26052/Thunderbolt-Bus-Driver-for-Intel-NUC-Kit-NUC6i7KYK

I downloaded the update tool for the firmware here.
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GS40-6QE-Phantom.html#down-firmware

 3. Updated the Node the link below is what I used to update it.
https://www.akitio.com/firmware/node-firmware

 4. Updated NVIDIA drivers to the latest one. You can get the drivers from NVIDIA's website.
I would recommend to update it with a clean installation. Overwriting the previous update caused me to have problems running gsync.

 
5. After completing the above steps I disabled my mobile GPU on my laptop.*
Device Manager > Display adapters > NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M.

 

*I tried uninstalling the GTX970M drivers and for some reason it gets reinstalled again.

 On the NVIDIA Control panel you can turn on GSYNC once every driver has been setup.

 

Further notes*

 

I also noticed there is some issue when it comes to booting up your system and turning it off. You need to first turn on your laptop before turning on the Akitio Node. When shutting down turn off the laptop once fully off then turn off the Akitio Node.

 

3D Mark Results

 

CUDA-Z Results

 

 

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Edited: 11 months  ago

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dani_tx
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June 28, 2017 6:27 am  

Am i mistaken or (by looking at the host to device) it looks like  10 Gb/s speed aka TB1 ?

ASUS A53SV: i7-2860QM, 16GB DDR3 running WINDOWS 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016
SSD: SAMSUNG 850 PRO(256GB)+SAMSUNG 850 EVO(120GB)
eGPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW+ PE4C V3.0(mPCIe)+EVGA 650 G3 PSU (internal display ONLY)


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June 28, 2017 6:35 am  

Yes looks like x2 2.0 or at best 10Gbps-TB1 performance level.  Some performance troubleshooting being done in a parallel thread:
https://egpu.io/forums/pc-setup/msi-gs40-akitio-node-msi-1080-gtx/#post-14162

I've downgrade the title to 10Gbps-TB3. This being the first time we've seen such low numbers from a TB3 interface.

Edited: 11 months  ago

eGPU Port Bandwidth Reference TableeGPU Setup 1.35


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dani_tx
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June 28, 2017 6:57 am  

Yep you wright(i've read the other post).It's all about the "power savings".....again !!!!!!

Shame though,nice setup!!!! Either MSI or Intel handicapped that port one might would never know.

 

P.S. On another thought in the other post you mentioned that the ME could be problem and i see here that the OP updated the BIOS first and i know that when OEM issue new BIOS they don't necessarily updating the ME to the latest so i think it might worth looking in to it.

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ASUS A53SV: i7-2860QM, 16GB DDR3 running WINDOWS 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016
SSD: SAMSUNG 850 PRO(256GB)+SAMSUNG 850 EVO(120GB)
eGPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW+ PE4C V3.0(mPCIe)+EVGA 650 G3 PSU (internal display ONLY)


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nealqu
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June 28, 2017 5:57 pm  

Can you enlighten me what ME stands for?


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dani_tx
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June 28, 2017 11:02 pm  

Intel Management Engine Firmware.You can check which version you have in HWiNFO and you can update it if there is a newer version but it's a long shot,chances that will fix the problem are slim(what i suggested in my post i also wanted to see what nando4 will respond cause he knows more about those things than me but he never did).Here is a link that will help you how to update it,read all of it and follow the guides there. 

http://www.win-raid.com/t596f39-Intel-Management-Engine-Drivers-Firmware-amp-System-Tools.html

ME

Edited: 11 months  ago

ASUS A53SV: i7-2860QM, 16GB DDR3 running WINDOWS 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016
SSD: SAMSUNG 850 PRO(256GB)+SAMSUNG 850 EVO(120GB)
eGPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW+ PE4C V3.0(mPCIe)+EVGA 650 G3 PSU (internal display ONLY)


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June 29, 2017 5:26 pm  

Were you able to update the firmware of the superport?  I have tried to use intel firmware for the port but get a vendor mismatch error every time I attempt to install.  MSI only has NVM 16 for my GS60.  Would like to get updated firmware for the port but I doubt they will be pushing out.  I used your software link for the NUC to update the thunderbolt software to 16.3. 


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nealqu
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June 30, 2017 4:46 am  

I have already gotten in touch with MSI informed them about the old drivers. They will get back to me on that one and asked for my email and contact number. I know the superport will actually become a thunderbolt port after the bios update to the best of my knowledge. The NUC link that I posted was the only driver that update my thunderbolt software to 16.3. I was able to update the Akitio Node because of that.

Have you tried running CUDA-Z? What are your performance numbers? I wanted to compare if the thunderbolt port for GS40 the same as the GS60.

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November 2, 2017 2:00 am  

So just upgraded to a 1070 and can run CUDA now on my GS60 (was running an RX580).  Here are the results:

 

Performance Information

Performance Information-----------------------

Memory Copy Host Pinned to Device: 2054.97 MiB/s

Host Pageable to Device: 1678.26 MiB/s

Device to Host Pinned: 2530.21 MiB/s

Device to Host Pageable: 1927.17 MiB/s

Device to Device: 85.4236 GiB/s

 

 


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May 2, 2018 9:53 am  

Thanks for this.
I also have a MSI GS60 6QE laptop.
I have just purchased the Akitio and a GTX 1080.

I will test and upload my results as well.
I will be running my setup internally.

For me i wanted a beast of a card to keep me above 60fps on ultra 1080p in all games. Dont mind to much about the actual performance loss compared to desktop cards. Would of still costed me heaps of money to upgrade the whole laptop with a gtx 1080.


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