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itsage
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@exaudium I imagine they would, here’s an update, I got the build working, even got macOS working pretty well on it.  For a while I had my UA Apollo and satellite working, but I couldn’t get my Thunderbolt Display to turn on so I tried the alpine ridge and the display started working.  Well, fast forward a month and I couldn’t boot into windows cause somehow the boot manager ended up on another drive that I formatted.  So I got windows reinstalled but now I can’t seem to get windows to see the universal audio gear.  I have both the alpine ridge and the titan ridge installed.  Should try to swap the cards in different slots.  My gigabyte designare bios doesn’t have any settings for thunderbolt, read elsewhere that people found a force power option on auros boards.  So I’d say see if the mobo you buy has a thunderbolt option in the bios.  There is a list of officially supported boards.  I didn’t buy one thinking that the titan would work on it’s own.  And it did before.  Dunno why it’s not working now, any suggestions are welcomed.  

@esatamacmodular Got macOS working, still struggling with thunderbolt though, had it working for a bit a month ago but now it’s not showing up in Windows 

Are you using the Gigabyte X399 Designare motherboard? If the THB_C header on this board doesn't provide any actual control over the TB3 AIC, you can disconnect the cable end on the motherboard and jump pin-3 to pin-5. Check and see if that helps with force power. I've also found GC-Alpine-Ridge is better suited for Thunderbolt monitor output vs. GC-Titan-Ridge.

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Yeah it’s x399 designare, have you tried jumping the pins on alpine ridge?  When I open the thunderbolt software there are no devices in the chains window, thought it could be software.  The designare has a thb header but no bios options, I’ll try jumping the pins when I get home

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@steven_wicks I never tried jumping the pins on GC-ALPINE-RIDGE. It needs the support firmware on the motherboard in order to work. The GC-TITAN-RIDGE on the other hand doesn't care if the motherboard has this support firmware. 

 

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@itsage

Oh okay interesting that it works with the Thunderbolt Display, maybe it’s only sending display port

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@itsage

Jumping the pins got the universal audio to show up in the thunderbolt device manager! But the UA software isn’t recognizing it

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@steven_wicks Some devices can work with cold boot but most need warm boot. I typically have to reboot following Thunderbolt device detection for it to be fully functional. 

 

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Thanks @itsage, seems like this might be more of a universal audio software problem.  Cause I have to u install and reinstall the software in wi does every boot to get it to recognize it.  Still haven’t had any luck in Mac.  It doesn’t restart properly though, might need to make the custom ssdt for usbinjectall

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@steven_wicks Jumping the pins on the GC ALPINE-RIDGE doesn't work because there's not enough voltage like the GC-TITAN RIDGE.  http://forum.gigabyte.us/post/30646/thread

You can connect 3.3V to the GC-ALPINE RIDGE Force Power pin to get it sort of working (use a pull up resister), but the device is hidden by setting the vendor and product ID to 0xFFFF
https://egpu.io/forums/thunderbolt-enclosures/list-of-intel-titan-ridge-thunderbolt-3-devices/paged/3/#post-43827
https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/success-gigabyte-designare-z390-thunderbolt-3-i7-9700k-amd-rx-580.267551/post-1995153

Some people have investigated the Alpine Ridge more thoroughly, found some interesting bits, and wrote some of the findings 
https://osy.gitbook.io/hac-mini-guide/details/thunderbolt-3-fix
There's a Power Up section in part two which mentions a register 0x54C that when 0xD is written to it, will eventually cause bit 0 of 0x548 to be set which indicates that it is ready to be used (vendor and product ID will be unhidden). I haven't tried this yet. I would try this in EFI Shell, then boot into Windows to see what happens.
https://osy.gitbook.io/hac-mini-guide/details/thunderbolt-3-fix-part-2

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@joevt

Awesome, thanks for all the info, that gitbook article is interesting, don’t think I’m familiar enough with acpi patching to attempt it yet, but those options seem promising, I did have a kernel panic a few times trying to boot, sounds like the issue with OS X drivers he talked about.  I’ll update with any results.

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Now that I have a Chopin build, I could possible add in the Titan Ridge AIC also.  How much of the internal case did you have to cut out for the PCIe riser?  Just enough for it to pass through?  Any pictures by chance?

I was looking at my case as I took it apart to do better cable management (instead of just cramming everything on the side of the mobo) and saw that some modification would be needed to pass a riser through.

As this is my "temporary" case until my other SFF case gets in next month, I've already thought about making this another suitable TB3 machine for my eGPU at home...

Any previous tips would help.  Thanks!

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@omardesu From memory I expanded the gap right under PCIe slot to be wide enough for the X16 extension cable to go through. If I was to do it again I would find an x4 entension cable because that's all we need for the Thunderbolt 3 AIC. It would have been a smaller cut and easier to fold the cable in the space behind.

 

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Just wanted to update real quick, I managed to get Bluetooth and thunderbolt working, all uad devices are showing up and performing as expected.  Sooooooo, Threadripper and thunderbolt/Apollo is possible!!! 
gonna make my life so much easier with big music files.  

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Posted by: @joevt

There's a Power Up section in part two which mentions a register 0x54C that when 0xD is written to it, will eventually cause bit 0 of 0x548 to be set which indicates that it is ready to be used (vendor and product ID will be unhidden). I haven't tried this yet. I would try this in EFI Shell, then boot into Windows to see what happens.

I did try this ( #460 ) and it works for macOS - I haven't gotten Windows to boot but maybe that's because I installed 64 GB of RAM? The same method should work on a PC. You just have to run the EFI program before each boot.

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I’m eyeing up a similar build and my issue as ever is my monitor. I’m thinking either run a tb3 add in card in a node lite (already have) or use the tb3 port on the mobo for the display and use the same software we use for egpus to assign the dgpu to games. 
mine thing I’m unsure of is whether I need some sort of igpu to do the latter? I’m assuming so? If so I’ll prob grab this exact cpu unless someone recommends something else?

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@eightarmedpet Powering the 1st gen LG 5K UltraFine is again going to be a headache with different constraints. I don't believe there's an ITX with dual DP-IN for Thunderbolt 3 monitor output. Therefore an AIC is your only option to achieve 5K. GC-ALPINE-RIDGE inside the Node Lite would be my recommendation since you already have the enclosure.

Are you getting the ASRock X570 ITX/TB3 motherboard? It's currently the only AMD option with on-board Thunderbolt 3 port. Depending on the case you're going with, there might be enough space for an AIC directly in the PCIe slot. My InWin Chopin was too narrow for any card to be installed directly. If you don't plan on an dGPU then Ryzen 5 3400G is currently the best option.

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@itsage cheers for the reply! And yeah my monitor is it’s usual bloody headache. 
I don’t think I explained my plan well enough though, I was going to do something I saw Linus do with a mining card (no video outputs). Plan would be to connect the LG to the tb3 port and use windows graphics switching software to run games off the dgpu, but I’m guessing I need a cpu with on board graphics to get any sort of picture in the first place  if that makes sense? Case wise I really like the Louqe Ghost.

 

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The 1st LG 5K UltraFine needs a Thunderbolt 3 connection with dual DisplayPort streams. No ITX motherboard has dual DP-IN so the onboard Thunderbolt 3 port can't produce full 5K resolutions. I don't think an iGPU would send dual DP streams to the TB3 port either. Therefore you're limited to using an AIC.

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@itsage

Oh I’m not fussed about 5k, 4K would be fine and to be honest I’d game at a lower res so it shouldn’t be an issue reg lack of dpx2. You’re right about the board I was looking at, it’s not only the only AMD board with tb3 but the only mitx tb3 board with 40gbs. 
I really wish I’d checked my refresh rate and res when I tested it on my old hack with 20gbs. 

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@steven_wicks

I'm having the same problems with the UAD software recognizing the connected Apollo device via the GC Titan Ridge, what ended up working for you?

 

Thanks!

 

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