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daclina
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Hi Everyone,

I have an HP Envy 34" Curved with the rx460, and I see someone asked a with a similar machine posted a while ago (although he had a slightly different model with the gtx 1050) here:

https://egpu.io/forums/desktop-computing/aio-egpu-gaming/

And the recommendation from HP is to use the HP Omen Accelerator, which seems to explicitly support the HP Envy Curved models, specifically the b0xx versions, and mine is the HP ENVY Curved All-in-One - 34-b010d:

The HP Omen Accelerator compatibility is listed as:

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/omenaccelerator/overview.html

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So technically, I just need to get my hands on an HP Accelerator. I have posted in the wanted forum (without much luck as of now) and I have searched online in my location (Singapore), but a discontinued product isn't easy to get in 2020.

My question is this:

1. If I do eventually get the HP Omen Accelerator, does anyone have any experience with it on an HP Envy Curved and how well it works?

2. Will it support cards not listed on the site ie the RTX cards or any ATI cards newer and better than the rx580 ?

3. Is the recommendation to use a Nvidia card if the o/b is a Radeon and vise versa or should I stick to the same brand?

4. In the event that I cannot get an HP Omen Accelerator, what would be my best bet for an alternative (has anybody tried anything else that works?) 

 

Thanks in advance

HP Envy 34" Curved RX460

 
2017 34" HP ENVY Curved All-in-One (RX460) [7th,4C,T] + RX 580 @ 16Gbps-TB3 (HP OMEN Accelerator) + Win10 [build link]  


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@daclina, Looking through the specs sheet of the HP ENVY 34 Curved AIO, I saw an M.2 NVMe socket. You can use this socket for M.2 eGPU adapter which is both more affordable and higher performance than Thunderbolt 3. The appeal of Thunderbolt 3 is Power Delivery and hot-plug convenience for laptop users. In your use case those features don't particularly seem beneficial. I would recommend looking into build guides of the ADT-Link R43SG for ideas.

 

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@itsage, Thanks for the recommendation and quick reply.

Going down the M.2 slot was my first thought as it would get the best performance at the best price. After doing some research, it seems I would have to forfeit one of the drives that are currently in the AIO machine (and I do use both). So I would have to buy a faster 2tb SSD to make up for the lost space, which would eat into the M.2 option cost benefits (there's a 256 ssd and a 2tb hdd).

 

If not, I'd have to go down the WLAN socket, but from what understand that's quite slow 1x vs 4x?

Then I thought about all the cables and ideally I'd like to keep things neat and relatively simple. I didn't know the AIO had a TB3 port so once I figured it had one, I was happy to take the 20% performance hit over TB3, simply because of the convenience and plug-and-play option (and I do actually move the AIO around the house lol).

I think going the TB3 enclosure would be my first point of call. If I hate the performance (and I will already have bought a desktop card) I can buy the m.2 accessories and give that a try, and possibly just sell the TB3 box. More than likely going to happen at some point, but for now I'd like to get a simple solution for the Envy.

Any recommendations as to where to next?

 

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HP Envy 34" Curved RX460

 
2017 34" HP ENVY Curved All-in-One (RX460) [7th,4C,T] + RX 580 @ 16Gbps-TB3 (HP OMEN Accelerator) + Win10 [build link]  


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@daclina, Yes Thunderbolt 3 connection trades some performance loss for convenience and ease of implementation on supported configuration. If you don't plan on installing a power hungry GPU such as RX Vega 64, the Sonnet Breakaway Box 350 can handle most graphics cards.

 

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2020 13" MacBook Pro [10th,4C,G] + RX 5700 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Prototype eGPU Enclosure) + macOS 10.15.4 & Win10 1903 [build link]  


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daclina
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Thank you for the recommendation.

Unfortunately I’m unable to get the Sonnet box locally, but I did find an HP Omen Accelerator for around $209 including delivery, which is a pretty good deal imo. Should be here in about 2 weeks.

Next I need to look at the GPU option. I’m currently looking at a PowerColor Red Devil RX 580 8GB, which I can get for around $100 (has 1 year warranty) and a Zotac 2070 OC mini 8gb, which I can get for around $375 (has 4 years warranty). I keep getting conflicting information online in terms of how much power each card needs. Looks like the rx 580 needs 180w and the 2070 mini needs 175/185/215w (different sources).

What would be your recommendations for best value for money, best for heat and without needing to replace psu’s. I don’t mind getting splitters or adapters however.

Thanks in advance.

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HP Envy 34" Curved RX460

 
2017 34" HP ENVY Curved All-in-One (RX460) [7th,4C,T] + RX 580 @ 16Gbps-TB3 (HP OMEN Accelerator) + Win10 [build link]  


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Posted by: @itsage

@daclina, Yes Thunderbolt 3 connection trades some performance loss for convenience and ease of implementation on supported configuration. If you don't plan on installing a power hungry GPU such as RX Vega 64, the Sonnet Breakaway Box 350 can handle most graphics cards.

 

Except that there are incoherences between what Sonnet, AMD and Apple say about compatibility and Apple (France) refused to help me because I tried to get support for a RX 5700 XT in the Sonnet 550. 

Mac Mini 2018 i7 16 GB 512 GB SSD, Mac Book Pro 2016, HP Z31x, Sonnet Breakaway Box 550 W, Nitro+ RX5700 XT, KFA2 SNPR 1060 6GB eGPU,...


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@daclina, The OMEN Accelerator can handle RX 580 and GTX 1070 with ease. At those prices, I would recommend the RX 580.

 

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2020 13" MacBook Pro [10th,4C,G] + RX 5700 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Prototype eGPU Enclosure) + macOS 10.15.4 & Win10 1903 [build link]  


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@itsage, thanks again.

It looks like I might loose on the rx 580 deal (I'll find out tomorrow).

If I do, the next best would be closer to $150 for another branded rx 580 (likely no warranty). The HP Envy is a 34" curved screen running @ 3440 x 1440 @ 60. Would you still go for the rx 580?

I ask because

a) I like the 4yr warranty of the 2070 and

b) the 34" screen is above your typical 1440p res and might give the rx 580 a little bit of a hard time, so the 2070 (even with the 20% penalty), might be a better fit and

c) this guy below says he can run the rtx 2070 founders edition, with some heat issues:

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Accessories/Will-the-HP-Omen-Accelerator-run-RTX-2070-cards-YES-IT-DOES/td-p/6974079

So should I still pursue a rx 580?

Thanks again.

 

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HP Envy 34" Curved RX460

 
2017 34" HP ENVY Curved All-in-One (RX460) [7th,4C,T] + RX 580 @ 16Gbps-TB3 (HP OMEN Accelerator) + Win10 [build link]  


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@daclina, I'd recommend checking our build guides. Search for the graphics cards you're interested in buying to see their performance.

 

external graphics card builds
best laptops for external GPU
eGPU enclosure buyer's guide

 
2020 13" MacBook Pro [10th,4C,G] + RX 5700 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Prototype eGPU Enclosure) + macOS 10.15.4 & Win10 1903 [build link]  


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daclina
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@itsage

Ok so I finally managed to get my hands on an RX 580 8gb for around ~100 usd with 6 months left of warranty and I got the Omen Accelerator for around 200 usd.

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I'm happy to report that the HP Envy Curved 34-b0xx series indeed works with the Hp Omen Accelerator

It was a pretty easy setup, I had to follow the official instruction on HP's website and (after approving the device in the thunderbolt app) everything was pretty simple. The HP Omen app auto starts and switches to the card you have in the Accelerator's. Pretty neat, but it does sometime mean I have to restart, and then only plugin the HP Accelerator a few seconds after a boot.

Here are my benchmarks:

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This is while the eGPU is using the AIO screen, so it's technically the device screen. The AIO has an input port, so i'll run some benchmarks to compare the two next.

Are these numbers ok or am I missing something? I can't seem to tell at what bandwidth it is running.

The case came with a 3rd party branded cable ~ 1m long.

Thanks.

 

HP Envy 34" Curved RX460

 
2017 34" HP ENVY Curved All-in-One (RX460) [7th,4C,T] + RX 580 @ 16Gbps-TB3 (HP OMEN Accelerator) + Win10 [build link]  


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