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omardesu
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Hey all!

It was only a few months ago that I decided to move from an eGPU setup thanks to @itsage.  As of this week, I have ordered all the parts for my mini ITX build.  However, I do not have parts in hand as I haven't been home since I started ordering the components 2 months ago.  If you're interested, here's my parts list as shown in pcpartpicker.com: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/omardesu/saved/vPxFGX

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($409.99)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-L9i 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($147.99)
Storage: HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($78.99)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB GAMING Video Card  ($379.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($114.46)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A9x14 29.72 CFM 92mm Fan  ($15.95 @ Amazon)
Other: DAN Cases - A4-SFX V4-B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($199.00)
Total: $1545.36

 

Knowing that my 1070 Ti was going to depart my ASUS XG Station Pro when I build this PC, I ended up picking up an ASUS Arez Vega 56 last week so I could use it with my 2014 Mac mini and 2016 MBP 15" in Mojave and Bootcamp (if needed).

Stay tuned to this post if you want to see the PC build.
In addition to the PC build, I can share some testing of the ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac with internal GPU and eGPU (will test both the 1070 Ti and Vega 56).  Even though this MB has 1 single TB3 port, it is only running at PCIe x2 speed which is the same as TB2 @ 16Gbps.  Unfortunately there were no other mini-ITX boards that had full TB3 bandwidth when I made the purchase in Feb (still don't think there are any TB3 equipped MB's today other than ASRock, I'd have to do more reasearch).


Update 5/25/19:  Added HWiNFO64 screenshot of the TB3 link as @itsage requested

sff vega56 egpu hwinfo64 tb3link

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B Wesley
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Perhaps revisit post? The format was lost, and this site isn't interpreting the markup correctly so it just looks like a bunch of links and metadata, housed in their tags...

Sys1: MITX Desktop in InWin Chopin
i5-4570 + 1060 6GB + PCIe 1x adapter (over USB3.0 copper)
Sys2: Dell 15 Latitude 3542
i3-4030U + 1060 6GB + mPCIe adapter for PCIe 1x (over USB3.0 copper)
Sys3:Dell 14 Inspiron E5450
i7-6500U + 1060 6GB + NGFF M.2 A/E --> mPCIe adapter
+ mPCIe adapter for PCIe 1x (over USB3.0 copper)
Sys4:Pending


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omardesu
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@b_Wesley edited the post.  Some formatting is still funky, so another edit is coming soon!

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omardesu
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Finally got back to the good ol’ US of A to get my hands on the parts listed above which were waiting for me at my cousin’s house. Everything... except the case which is supposed to ship in May.

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Since I don’t go back to the US often, I couldn’t help but do a part functionality test and build the system up — caseless!  Didn’t want to go back overseas and find out that I had a bad component.  So here’s what I ended up with (in my hotel room):

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Luckily everything works fine.  The only things that are missing is my 1070 Ti, case, case fan and a 3D printed duct for the cooler fan.  The one thing that I did worry about and still am worrying about is that I have to fit all of those components into a case that’s smaller than a shoebox!!!  It’ll be a learning experience for sure!

Will update again once I get the case.

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itsage
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@omardesu Nice setup! I’m looking forward to seeing all the components fitted inside the Dan A4 case. When you have a chance, can you run HWiNFO64 to check the Thunderbolt 3 PCIe link?

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omardesu
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Sure thing @itsage.  I just got word that the cases will start shipping May 3rd, so hopefully I'll have it all ready in 1-2 weeks.

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omardesu
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Well... the case is supposed to ship as early as today May 3rd... I already prepared the materials to reduce CPU temps via the fan duct that Dan had provided on his website.  Since the original design couldn't accommodate my high profile LED ram, I attempted to modify the duct... here are the results:

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itsage
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Looking good so far! I have a couple ASRock motherboards and they can accommodate overclocking of both CPU and RAM very nicely. How do you like the Z390 Phantom?

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omardesu
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@itsage I haven't had much time to use the Z390 yet (just in the "test components" pics).  I barely got my Dan A4 last Friday in Taiwan, but I when I actually got it it was time for me to leave Taiwan to go home for time with wife and the kids.  All my components are in Taiwan and I plan to build it in my hotel room... I'll be back on Monday, so the build should be done within 24 hours!!!  I'm debating taking my eGPU with the Vega 56 so I could do all those comparisons.  When it's all up and running, I'll take some pics and post it for sure!

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omardesu
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Finished my REV1 build in the V4... everything is working fine. I threw in some pictures of my ASUS XG Station Pro eGPU for comparison. It was quite unfortunate that I couldn't fit the Strix Vega 56 in the case though...

Things to do:
1) new cabling
2) add LED's
3) add fan under PSU
4) swap 512 Gb SSD with 1 Tb

As for the fan under the mobo, I did put a Noctua 92x14mm under there. It's a tight fit, but the mobo is right up against the fan but not putting any pressure on it. I decided to put the fan there for now as it would be a PITA to do it later. I plan on getting another 14mm fan to put under the PSU (not sure if it will help any, but I'll give it a try).

Note: the jpegs are a bit overexposed as these came directly from my DSLR (too lazy to edit the raw files at this point), so please bear with them...

Click here to see more pics.

SFF GPU
SFF Mobo
SFF vs eGPU
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esatamacmodular
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yes there are a few MB out there with full TB3 bandwidth, but as you have found not any in this size. pretty sweet that you can fit a large GPU. also nice work on the 3d printed fan. care to share you 3d print file so others can give it a try? Really nice looking build I would love to see some benchmarks and see how you plan to integrate the eGPU. Nice work on the photos too.

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omardesu
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Posted by: esatamacmodular

care to share you 3d print file so others can give it a try?

You can head over to Dan's website and get the .stl files for the 2 different shapes.  When I made mine, it was still proto for me as Dan just posted the modified one today.

https://www.dan-cases.com/dana4_faq.html

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pedagogy
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Hi there,

Silly question: how did you mount the fan with the fan duct to the cooler? The default L9i/a screws are just long enough for the fan. I can see you reusing the same screw to attach the duct to the fan but how are you attaching the fan and duct unit to the cooler? Did you change screws? Did you use cable ties? Please let me know how you did it. Thanks.

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omardesu
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Posted by: pedagogy

Hi there,

Silly question: how did you mount the fan with the fan duct to the cooler? The default L9i/a screws are just long enough for the fan. I can see you reusing the same screw to attach the duct to the fan but how are you attaching the fan and duct unit to the cooler? Did you change screws? Did you use cable ties? Please let me know how you did it. Thanks.

The L9i comes with a set of longer screws to accommodate a 25mm fan.  The screws are too long though, so I cut them down to about 22mm and they are fine.

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omardesu
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Rev 2.  Finally completed all my custom cabling, LED's, added 1TB of NVMe SSD.  After 1 week of working on this thing in my hotel, I can bring it home this Friday and run some tests!

Any in particular anybody would like to see?

SFF GPU iso
SFF GPU led
SFF MOBO led
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Thats pretty incredible its pretty much the same size as an ASUS XG Station Pro   I really wish eGPU manufacturers would focus a not more on reducing the size/foot print of enclosures.

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omardesu
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So I've officially gone overboard with the RGB... and I picked up an AOC gaming monitor (G2590PX) today, so my new SFF system is done.  Time to play games, run some benchmarks, and tweak the system so my temps stay under control...

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omardesu
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Updated original post to add in the TB3 info for this mobo.

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@omardesu Thank you for sharing this build. It came together very nice. How’s the overall temp and noise while idle and gaming? Too bad about x2 PCIe lane Thunderbolt 3 on this motherboard.

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omardesu
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Posted by: itsage

@omardesu Thank you for sharing this build. It came together very nice. How's the overall temp and noise while idle and gaming? Too bad about x2 PCIe lane Thunderbolt 3 on this motherboard.

Yes.  I've been pretty happy with this Windows build.  I could upgrade the GPU in the future to match it better with the 9700K (I'll be on the look out during Black Friday later this year).

My temps were pretty bad when gaming hitting upwards to 100 deg C while playing Fortnite. It didn't help that the computer was sitting in a shelf without adequate airflow.  I have now moved it out into open air.  I also modified some CPU parameters:  Long Power Duration Limit = 95W and Undervolt by -0.125V.  With these tweaks, I could run under 80 deg C while gaming.

Noise is pretty much a non-factor since we pretty much run the AC 24/ 7.  The small USB desk fan that I use is more audible than the SFF which is behind my monitor.  That being said, I could probably adjust the fan curves to get more aggressive airflow to the CPU and case.  I will still play around with the fan orientations at the bottom of the case to see if I can reduce temps any further.  I also will probably test the effectiveness of the duct that Dan had suggested (temps with and without).

I did spend the entire day running benchmarks to compare my 1070Ti inside the case vs inside the ASUS XG Station Pro as well as my Vega 56 in eGPU on both this build with TB3 x2 vs my 2016 MBP with TB3 x4.  I have a bunch of screenshots that I've already uploaded to the forum, but I think it may be easier to just start off with a table to show the differences.
 
Overall, fun stuff.  Spent a lot of time for customizing, but it's always nice to learn new things and pickup new skills along the way.  Also got into the world of 144Hz monitors which is such a nice upgrade!!!

Unfortunately/fortunately, I have a feeling this probably won't be my last SFF build...  Maybe once there is an ITX MB with TB3 x4, I could potentially upgrade.  Liquid AIO's etc.... Once I start upgrading, I'll have enough parts to build another SFF!! 😮

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thanks for the update. love this case you are using. I'm still not understanding how you will use the eGPU though. doesn't seem like it adds any performance to the build.

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The eGPU won't add anything extra to my SFF build, that's correct.  I actually built this system for my step-son for gaming, but as soon as I finished building it, he went back to playing on Xbox.  Go figure....  So with me gaming on this system, the eGPU is unnecessary at this point.  When I travel for work, I just play on my 2016 MBP on Bootcamp at 60fps and that's good enough for me.

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