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slhdsnet
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Dear eGPU Members,

Anyone here with some experience an/or recommendation in regards the 1080TI EFI EGPU CARD FOR MAC PRO 6,1 listed @ US$1,050.00 on the MacVidCards.com website ? http://www.macvidcards.com/store/p110/1080Ti_EFI_eGPU_card_for_Mac_Pro_6%2C1.html

Some questions I have:

  1. Would there be a huge difference in performance compared to the RX 580 I am currently running ?
  2. Why is the asking price so steep for this GPU or am I missing something here ?
  3. Anyone in the community running this very card with a nMP 6,1 ?

1080TI EFI EGPU card for nMP 6,1

Thanking you in advance,
Stephane

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OliverB
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I have both cards, a Sapphire Nitro RX 580 and a EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 and yes, there is a big difference in performance (in Windows). On Windows it is about 2x. (Not on Mac though and important: the GTX1080Ti doesn't work on Mojave at all)

BUT: Think twice about if you want to buy this card from MacVidCards, because you can get it for half the price somewhere else. They may offer the card with a Mac Bootscreen, but do you really need it? Is it really worth $500 only the Bootscreen?

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@oliverb it’s not just a boot screen. That card allows eGPU functionality on the 2013 Mac Pro in Bootcamp. There is currently no open source solution for the same.

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@mac_editor, he will have trouble to run the GTX1080Ti in Mojave and he obviously uses Mojave (see his signature).

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@oliverb I was addressing your comment of “worth 500$ only the bootscreen”. I never recommended the card to anyone in any comment.

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If it isn't another Anti-Error 12 hack where no Error 12 occurs, it's okay for me ;p

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@slhdsnet I am courios: Aren't the Dual Firepro D300 supposed to be as powerful as a single RX580? At least as dGPU vs eGPU they have a massive bandwidth advantage.

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@oliverb  Well from my experimentation, the dual D300 are not as powerful.  Granted and this is not by a big margin but in all the benchmark I ran, the RX 580 beats the D300's.  See my LuxMark v3.1 benchmark numbers below for reference:

LuxMark v3.1 OpenCL Custom D300 (1x)
LuxMark v3.1 OpenCL Custom D300 (2x)
LuxMark v3.1 OpenCL Custom RX 580
LuxMark v3.1 OpenCL GPUs All

Cheers,
Stephane

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nMP-Mac Pro (Late 2013) with AMD FirePro D300's (x2)
✧ macOS Mojave 10.14.5 (18F132) ✧
automate-eGPU EFI (v1.0.5) USB ✧
OWC Mercury Helios FX eGPU / AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB / Apple TB3-TB2 Cable Adapter ✧
✧ NewerTech HDMI Headless Video Adapter ✧


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@mac_editor  I like your comment, i.e. "it’s not just a boot screen. That card allows eGPU functionality on the 2013 Mac Pro in Bootcamp." and you actually just now confirmed what I believed was indeed the case but, was not 100% sure if this was actually true or not.  Still, this becomes an expensive proposition to be able to run Windows 10 in eGPU configuration within Bootcamp on my nMP 2013.  I need thinker a little more on this before I commit to buying.

Thanks again for your reply and very much appreciated.

Cheers,
Stephane

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nMP-Mac Pro (Late 2013) with AMD FirePro D300's (x2)
✧ macOS Mojave 10.14.5 (18F132) ✧
automate-eGPU EFI (v1.0.5) USB ✧
OWC Mercury Helios FX eGPU / AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB / Apple TB3-TB2 Cable Adapter ✧
✧ NewerTech HDMI Headless Video Adapter ✧


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@slhdsnet yep, it’s expensive for sure and you will have to check the netkas forums for any latest updates and for troubleshooting if needed. IMO It should be considered only if you plan on sticking to your nMP for many more years to come and have serious use case for the eGPU in Windows. At that price you could have two V64’s (or maybe 3 V56’s if one looks carefully) and although Windows won’t work, compute performance in macOS would be nuts.

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cool. i didn't know this wasn't possible on 2013 mac pro w/out this card. nice to see a nod to egpu market.

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Posted by: mac_editor

@slhdsnet yep, it’s expensive for sure and you will have to check the netkas forums for any latest updates and for troubleshooting if needed. IMO It should be considered only if you plan on sticking to your nMP for many more years to come and have serious use case for the eGPU in Windows. At that price you could have two V64’s (or maybe 3 V56’s if one looks carefully) and although Windows won’t work, compute performance in macOS would be nuts.

You get 4 Vega56 or 3 Vega64 for the price of $1000.

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Posted by: slhdsnet

@mac_editor  I like your comment, i.e. "it’s not just a boot screen. That card allows eGPU functionality on the 2013 Mac Pro in Bootcamp." and you actually just now confirmed what I believed was indeed the case but, was not 100% sure if this was actually true or not.  

I still don't get it how this should be necessary. Is this really confirmed?

There are lot of false facts out there that have to be myth busted. I remember e.g. that is was "common sense", that the GTX780Ti wasn't natively supported by MacOSX, which was just wrong. Or Claiming that Radeon VII was better than a GTX1080Ti in Unigine Valley, which is far from being true. Or people using anti-error-31-hacks on setups where it isn't a problem. Recently another user wrote as fact that the iGPU of his 13-inch MacBookPro must be switched off because of firmware, which doesn't make any sense... etc.. list goes os.

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Posted by: OliverB

@slhdsnet I am courios: Aren't the Dual Firepro D300 supposed to be as powerful as a single RX580? At least as dGPU vs eGPU they have a massive bandwidth advantage.

The D300 is somewhere between the 7850 and the 7870.

We are talking about 2 generations above. Not even mentioning that it wasn't even fully on GCN, and has 2GB of memory.
So compared to the 580, it is basically a stone age card.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


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esatamacmodular
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hmmm makes me think of this post ... https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/questions-about-flashing-nvidia-cards-for-mac-bootscreen/

I think the fact that anyone is able to pull off this GPU mod is awesome. But apparently the price for it right now is $300-600 additional cost per card for a missing bootscreen and other functionality.

As a side note, I always wondered whether the MVC cards are sold as new or not as it does not explicitly say one way or the other.

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@mac_editor  Your most insightful replies triggered in my mind to do some more research into this, which I did.  Based on many related discussions found on both eGPU.io and other forums, the outcome becomes quite simple, i.e. pass and wait for the new Mac Pro 2019 expected to become available sometime this year.  For now, my nMP 2013 is still chugging along quite nicely with the eGPU setup I run at this time.

As for the Mac Pro 2019, let's wait and see.  Time will tell !!

nMP-Mac Pro (Late 2013) with AMD FirePro D300's (x2)
✧ macOS Mojave 10.14.5 (18F132) ✧
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@mac_editor  Quick update in regards my eGPU setup configuration.  Per my signature block, have now updated macOS Mojave to 10.14.5 (18F132) with no issues whatsoever.  In addition, have also replaced the Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 by a Sapphire Pulse Rx Vega 56 about a month ago.  Bottom line and quite frankly, really impressed by the outcome.

The Pulse Vega 56 simply rocks !!!

Mosaic Capture 2019 06 2 at 16.38.42

Quick benchmark for the records:

Mosaic Capture 2019 04 28 at 16.29.11

Mosaic Capture 2019 04 28 at 16.25.49

Mosaic Capture 2019 04 28 at 17.28.41

Mosaic Capture 2019 04 28 at 17.31.04

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nMP-Mac Pro (Late 2013) with AMD FirePro D300's (x2)
✧ macOS Mojave 10.14.5 (18F132) ✧
automate-eGPU EFI (v1.0.5) USB ✧
OWC Mercury Helios FX eGPU / AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB / Apple TB3-TB2 Cable Adapter ✧
✧ NewerTech HDMI Headless Video Adapter ✧


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