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bootz
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I've noticed that the Aorus Gaming Box LEDs and PSU fans do not run when using in Bootcamp with a TB2 connection. The only fan that turns on is the GPU fan.  When using with a TB3 PC, or TB2 iMac in OS X, the LEDs and PSU fans do turn on. 

Has anyone else noticed this?

iMac 4k 2015 - 21.5" (iGPU only)
i5-5675R @ 3.10 GHz
8 GB RAM
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 via TB3 > TB2 adapter
Windows 10.0.17134


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comfycat
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Yes. I also have a Aorus 1080 Gaming Box, running it with my 2013 Macbook Pro, so I use the Apple TB3 > TB2 adapter; and when I run it on Windows 10 via Bootcamp there are no lights in the Aorus and the fans are minimal; I think it's the two 40mm fans that fail to run correctly, but it could also be the large middle fan as well. I ran a benchmark for twenty minutes just to watch the temperature, and it got up to 60C, but this wasn't a long enough time to know what would happen under heavy use.

I'm nervous about damage from overheating so I'm looking at workarounds right now. If the USB ports still have power, then could run an external fan off a USB cable (they're all over Amazon).

I'm not equipped to do much in the way of electronic repairs, but I value a clean aesthetic. I'll post back with what I settle on.

You've been warned.
late-2013 13" MBP Retina + [email protected] (Aorus Gaming Box via TB3>TB2 adapter) + macOS10.13.3 & Win10

 
2013 13" MacBook Pro [4th,2C,U] + GTX 1080 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (AORUS Gaming Box) + macOS 10.13.3 & Win10 [build link]  


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comfycat
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Ok, I don't want to spam this thread but I'm actively work on this...

I ran Heaven benchmarking software so I could play around with the AORUS Gaming Engine, a bit of Windows software for tweaking the gaming box (and probably their GPUs in general). I was able to force the fans to run at 100%, which made it painfully obvious that only the center fan was operating. The two 40mm fans that push hot air out of the case were motionless! The PSU fan I think is working fine.

So this is just more information for other investigators. I'd love if there was a software fix for this; I am completely unfamiliar with most PC hardware and especially GPUs. I saw in the AORUS software there is something about updating the BIOS and maybe firmware... I was hesitant to deal with that on my own. Maybe one of those would need to be updated?

Sorry, I'm only sharing so much because this problem hasn't been solved anywhere else I've looked online. Hope some wizard (with an aging Macbook) can take a look at this... Otherwise I may just be taking my wife's advice and "point a fan at it".

You've been warned.
late-2013 13" MBP Retina + [email protected] (Aorus Gaming Box via TB3>TB2 adapter) + macOS10.13.3 & Win10

 
2013 13" MacBook Pro [4th,2C,U] + GTX 1080 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (AORUS Gaming Box) + macOS 10.13.3 & Win10 [build link]  


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comfycat
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Hey @bootz,
I am wondering if you've tried the AORUS Gaming Engine application (download it from Gigabyte's site). It's a bit confusing, but you can force a custom fan profile which runs the fans at anywhere up to 100%, so even though it's not all the fans, the main fan is running hard, and I found that for my purposes this has been alright. I'm still playing and monitoring the temps, but for now it's look like I can keep it around 60C with the fan turned to 100%. I hope this helps!

You've been warned.
late-2013 13" MBP Retina + [email protected] (Aorus Gaming Box via TB3>TB2 adapter) + macOS10.13.3 & Win10

 
2013 13" MacBook Pro [4th,2C,U] + GTX 1080 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (AORUS Gaming Box) + macOS 10.13.3 & Win10 [build link]  


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bootz
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@comfycat

Thanks for the reply! Yes, I use the Aorus GE app. I usually keep the fan at 50% and run at about the same frequency as the OC mode. Top of the box gets hot, but I haven't noticed any performance dips. So far the gaming has been mostly A Hat in Time and Fortnite. I have to run in Duplicate Display mode with a headless HDMI to get the eGPU to feed back to the internal display.

Even with the fan at 100%, it still seems almost silent without the other fans running. I guess we will see if that is a good or bad thing in the long run. Funny how OS X runs the LEDs and all fans and Windows 10 doesn't, considering both are using the TB3 to TB2 adapter.

iMac 4k 2015 - 21.5" (iGPU only)
i5-5675R @ 3.10 GHz
8 GB RAM
Aorus Gaming Box 1070 via TB3 > TB2 adapter
Windows 10.0.17134


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comfycat
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I'm just an amateur, but I know excessive heat is a good way to kill an electronic device, so I run my fan at 100% and keep that GPU temp down around 60C. It's apt to get up above 90C if I have the fans any lower.

Windows bootcamp is a funky thing; it's still a slave to certain Mac limitations, for example the eGPU won't even get recognized without spoofing that macOS boot. So far the only fix for the fan quirk is this AORUS Graphics Engine. I started this thread: https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/aorus-gaming-boxes-tb3-tb2-adapter-tricks-and-tips/ to collect people's ideas about getting things working despite the adapter limitations.

Do your AORUS USB ports work when running bootcamp Windows?

You've been warned.
late-2013 13" MBP Retina + [email protected] (Aorus Gaming Box via TB3>TB2 adapter) + macOS10.13.3 & Win10

 
2013 13" MacBook Pro [4th,2C,U] + GTX 1080 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (AORUS Gaming Box) + macOS 10.13.3 & Win10 [build link]  


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Kaz Walker
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I have the same issue, the only thing I can add to the conversation right now is that the USB ports don't work in Windows. I've noticed something when I restart from OSX; when the restart is happening, before rEFInd is displayed, sometimes the LEDs and fans will kick on for a moment.

One more thing I noticed is that I only had to use the apple_os.efi trick once, after the initial boot with the iGPU enabled, the eGPU was detected when booting straight into Windows.

I don't know much about Windows internals so I can't be of much help. However, I'm fairly handy with Linux and have some unallocated space on a drive waiting for an install. I'll try to get Ubuntu working over the weekend and see if the LEDs/fans work.

If I was going to make a guess, I'd say that the activate-gpu script on the OSX side is doing something special (my bet/hope), or that the peripherals are being exposed via EFI to Windows differently than OSX. Hopefully not the latter, I don't think I'd be of much help there, I know C++, but I only have a conceptual understanding of EFI.

Last note: I just found a blog post (also just tons of useful info about AORUS boxes) where a fellow Linux user using an Aorus that mentions something of interest. Linux incorrectly reports an extra keyboard and mouse connected to the system. The author of the post suspected that these extra USB-HID devices could be used to control the LEDs and fans. I noticed that there's an extra set in the device manager in Windows as well. I imagine that if this is the case, then it may be as simple as writing a small utility to enable the LEDs and fans. If we're super lucky, maybe USB as well?

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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comfycat
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That's promising @kaz! Yes, Aorus USBs have power, not through-put. I also saw the HID devices but I'm such an amateur I didn't know what I was looking at. It may be of interest that GLedApi throws an error which I see in Event Viewer. Something about "The description for Event ID 1 from source GLedApi cannot be found." It's a shot in the dark, but maybe this is something to do with controlling the LEDs? I'm sorry I can't be of help coding, but I am coping with the Aorus Graphics Engine software; and to be honest, I hear the 40mm fans that aren't running are pretty noisy, and I didn't like the LEDs, so maybe I'm doing alright?! The one central fan keeps the GPU around 60C with my settings, so I'm happy. Though, feel free to burst my bubble...

You've been warned.
late-2013 13" MBP Retina + [email protected] (Aorus Gaming Box via TB3>TB2 adapter) + macOS10.13.3 & Win10

 
2013 13" MacBook Pro [4th,2C,U] + GTX 1080 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (AORUS Gaming Box) + macOS 10.13.3 & Win10 [build link]  


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Kaz Walker
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@comfycat Maybe, most of the workloads I put my 1070 under (neural network training and crypto) brought the case up to 60C, I'm not sure about what the GPU was at. 😅 Either way, the 40mm fans are pretty amazing at dissipating heat from the enclosure, having control over them would be super useful. I also imagine that the 40mm fans are easier to service than the one on the GPU, but I'm not sure.

The noise issue is definitely one I can sympathize with, the way OSX runs the 40mm fans constantly is stupidly annoying. However, if the HID theory pans-out using commands in OSX to put the AORUS into "silent" mode would be awesome!

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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comfycat
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Please keep us posted @kaz! I'd love the option to control those fans. Alternatively I've been considering just plugging a USB powered fan into the powered ports and aiming it into the chasis.

You've been warned.
late-2013 13" MBP Retina + [email protected] (Aorus Gaming Box via TB3>TB2 adapter) + macOS10.13.3 & Win10

 
2013 13" MacBook Pro [4th,2C,U] + GTX 1080 @ 16Gbps-TB2>TB3 (AORUS Gaming Box) + macOS 10.13.3 & Win10 [build link]  


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