Enclosure & Hardware Discussions
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - USB-C Port
 

Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - USB-C Port  

  RSS

itsage
(@itsage)
Famed Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
 

The product page for RTX 2080 Ti is up. I spotted a USB-C port. The full specs of RTX 1070/1080 show USB Type C output as well.

Turing GPUs are designed with hardware support for USB Type-C and VirtualLink. VirtualLink is a new open industry standard being developed to meet the power, display, and bandwidth demands of next generation VR headsets through a single USB-C connector. 

Best ultrabooks for eGPU use

eGPU enclosure buying guide

109 external GPU build guides


ReplyQuote
Shrapnl
(@shrapnl)
Eminent Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

RTX 2080Ti pre-ordered  😎

2018 MacBook Pro 15" - Sonnet 550 - NVidia Titan X (Pascal)


itsage liked
ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago

ReplyQuote
Shrapnl
(@shrapnl)
Eminent Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

Expecting it to not work with macOS right away, at least if we go by how long it took to add Pascal support to their drivers.  Hopefully wrong on that part.  Expecting it to work in Windows right away... I hope at least.

2018 MacBook Pro 15" - Sonnet 550 - NVidia Titan X (Pascal)


ReplyQuote
itsage
(@itsage)
Famed Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
 

It was a 7 month wait for GTX 9XX cards to have macOS drivers. GTX 10XX was 11 months.

Best ultrabooks for eGPU use

eGPU enclosure buying guide

109 external GPU build guides


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

I’m in no rush for macOS, I just want to connect my screen directly. I wonder when amd will bring out new cards with usb c too?

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

---

LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


ReplyQuote
itsage
(@itsage)
Famed Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
 

Keep in mind this is USB-C output. It's not Thunderbolt 3 so 5K UltraFine is still a no-go.

Best ultrabooks for eGPU use

eGPU enclosure buying guide

109 external GPU build guides


ReplyQuote
Shrapnl
(@shrapnl)
Eminent Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

Yeah, I'm purely interested in eGPU performance for external monitor gaming.  Nothing fancy like a 5k Thunderbolt display for me at the moment.

2018 MacBook Pro 15" - Sonnet 550 - NVidia Titan X (Pascal)


ReplyQuote
PepeCZ
(@hr1bek)
Trusted Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

Guys when I owned Mantiz Venus and now I want preorder RTX, I only not know if 2080ti is/isn't overpower for Thunderbolt 3 4x lines.

What do you mean? Cost additional money for Ti into encloser?

LAPTOP = HP Spectre x360 13 Dark Ash Silver (i7-8565U, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD)
EGPU = Mantiz Venus MZ-02 Space Grey + PSU Corsair SF600 600W 80 Plus Gold
GPU = PowerColor AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2
DISPLAY = Samsung C27FG73 | ROUTER = NETGEAR Nighthawk X4S R7800
KEYBOARD = Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum | MOUSE = Logitech G305 Recoil Black
CHAIR = DXRacer Racing OH/RV001/N
PHONE = OnePlus 6T MidnightBlack (8GB LPDDR4X, 256GB UFS2.1)


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

I might buy one to test and send back if its no use, because... and I'm prob wrong...

Although it says USB C  it may actually have TB3 bandwidth and therefore work (at 4k)
Why would they not just say TB 3? Because all other monitors are USB C.
Why would it have the same bandwidth? Because its also for VR Link which has the bandwidth for a 4K display at 60hz.

Do I know what I'm talking about? Prob not.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

---

LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


magsafe liked
ReplyQuote
Trixxle
(@trixxle)
New Member
Joined: 11 months ago
 

So it only has one HDMI port? I'll have to buy an HDMI splitter to use my Rift then I guess.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
Shrapnl
(@shrapnl)
Eminent Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

DisplayPort to HDMI adaptor should work if you want to use multiple HDMI displays or for VR.

2018 MacBook Pro 15" - Sonnet 550 - NVidia Titan X (Pascal)


ReplyQuote
ikir
 ikir
(@ikir)
Prominent Member
Joined: 3 years ago
 
Posted by: itsage

It was a 7 month wait for GTX 9XX cards to have macOS drivers. GTX 10XX was 11 months.

Yes it was a nightmare and also Nvidia drivers were useless with constant crashing and freezing. Main reason for selling my old home made eGPUs with 970 and 1070. The switched to AMD and being happy.
if you don’t need all this GPU power on macOS just buy a Radeon Vega 56 wich works with about alll eGPU boxes, simply plug and macOS recognize it. Drivers are stable, Metal is faaast. Also when new AMD drivers will be out performance will not be awesome as always has been.
@eightarmedpet
thinking of you mate, if you don’t need this awesome new performance try a Radeon you will have much less headaches.

eGPU.it
MacBook Pro 2018 Touch Bar i7 quad-core 2.7Ghz - 16GB RAM - 512GB PCIe SSD
my Mantiz Venus extreme mod with Sapphire Nitro+ RX Vega 64
Testing Radeon VII on macOS 10.14.5 beta


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

@ikir it’s AMD cards that cause my problems (in Bootcamp). 

I wish I could just stick to macOS but most the games are windows, I’d snap up a Vega card right away otherwise.

Oh and yeah, totes agree, Nvidia drivers are crap in macOS.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

---

LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


ReplyQuote
willian
(@willian)
Active Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

I wonder if it would work with LG Ultrafine 4k

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago

ReplyQuote
danmeyerphoto
(@danmeyerphoto)
Eminent Member
Joined: 11 months ago
 
Posted by: Eightarmedpet

The 4K is USB C rather than TB 3 so it should... I am still holding on to some hope the 5K will too.

I have high hopes for you too!

I’m happy that I may finally have a solution for direct connect my 4k display w/usb c.   

But it I hope it works for you as well.  I did notice the specs shows it supports a resolution of 7680x4320. So you may be right.  Why would they create a GPU that supports said resolution but then provide connection ports which don’t support the band width.   It would not make sense but who knows I know nothing.  Here’s  hoping. 

eGPU: Akitio Node Pro : EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ultra) 2018 MacBook Pro 13" i7 Quad-core, 16 GB Ram, 2 TB ssd


ReplyQuote
(@brinly)
New Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 
Posted by: willian

I wonder if it would work with LG Ultrafine 4k

Has anybody tried? I'd be extremely interested in knowing if it works on any of the RTX's

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago

ReplyQuote
karatekid430
(@karatekid430)
Estimable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

Does anybody own this?

If so, what happens if you attach a USB thumb drive to the USB-C port with an adapter? Or something like a Samsung T5 SSD?

Theoretically it should work - because VirtualLink is the equivalent of shoving USB 3.1 and 4 lanes of DisplayPort into a USB-C cable. It was previously not possible as the DisplayPort lanes consumed all of the SS lines and only USB 2.0 was left. However, the updated USB specifications now allow for additional wires in the USB-C cable to be repurposed, and are used in VirtualLink to provide another set of wires (Thunderbolt 3 could theoretically add a third 20Gbps lane for 60Gbps). It will clearly require e-marked cables as the previous cables did not use high quality conductors where they were not needed. So it will have to check that the cable is designed for it.

The bottom line is somehow these graphics cards must provide USB connectivity somehow. I cannot find any PCI IDs listed for Nvidia USB controllers in the region of the PCI IDs for the GPUs. But an owner can easily find out if a USB controller appears as another PCI function number, like the graphics display audio does.

Linux and Windows: "lspci -vnnt"

For Windows, you need to download PCI Utils for Windows first, and need to run it with elevated privileges (whereas Linux does not require root).

Cheers!

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


itsage liked
ReplyQuote
itsage
(@itsage)
Famed Member Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
 

@karatekid430 Yes USB-C devices can connect to the TB3 host via the RTX GPU VirtualLink/USB-C port. Here are some screen captures.

This post was modified 9 months ago

Best ultrabooks for eGPU use

eGPU enclosure buying guide

109 external GPU build guides


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

Bad news for us 5K owners... I've had confirmation it doesn't work via someone on the Nvidia reddit who is using an LG Ultrafine 5K with his PC build (via an Alpine ridge card).

The day FE 2080's are available to buy too... le sigh.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

---

LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


ReplyQuote
joevt
(@joevt)
Reputable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

Can we see more information for device 1AD8 (XHCI controller) and 10F8 (HDA controller) and 1AD9 (Serial bus controller)?

For 5K, if it's a Thunderbolt display then you'll need to continue using a Thunderbolt add-in card. If it's USB-C like the LG UltraFine 4K or newer DisplayPort 1.4 displays then it should work. New Thunderbolt displays that use the Titan Ridge chip may also work since the Titan Ridge can accept USB-C input.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

From reddit...
"

[–]brinlyau 1 point 9 days ago 

Ultrafine 4K works beautifully for the record. I bought this card explicitly because it had USB C."

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

---

LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


willian liked
ReplyQuote
NerdsLTD
(@nerdsltd)
New Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 

I have both 4 and 5K displays and will eagerly await thumbs up or down on 5K. My suspician is it won't work. That said, optimism can't hurt.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
Eightarmedpet
(@eightarmedpet)
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 
Posted by: NerdsLTD

I have both 4 and 5K displays and will eagerly await thumbs up or down on 5K. My suspician is it won't work. That said, optimism can't hurt.

5k is confirmed not to.

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

---

LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


ReplyQuote
joevt
(@joevt)
Reputable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 
Posted by: Eightarmedpet
Posted by: NerdsLTD

I have both 4 and 5K displays and will eagerly await thumbs up or down on 5K. My suspician is it won't work. That said, optimism can't hurt.

5k is confirmed not to.

5K Thunderbolt is confirmed not to, because it's not a Thunderbolt port.

But what about 5K DisplayPort 1.4?

What about 5K dual link SST DisplayPort 1.2? For this, you would need a DisplayPort 1.4 MST Hub which I don't think exist yet. MST for multiple displays is not supported by macOS. dual link SST is not supported by macOS Nvidia drivers except for the Dell UP2715K. I don't know if Windows drivers can do dual link SST with a MST hub.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote