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Arden Shibley
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I do really love my Core X as a paperweight.. super effective, weighing in at 8.88 kg (19.5 lb) with RVII!

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


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OliverB
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Posted by: Arden Shibley

I do really love my Core X as a paperweight.. super effective, weighing in at 8.88 kg (19.5 lb) with RVII!

If you have a Razer Core X, you should put an OC Vega 64 in it, you get at least the same performance and no problems in MacOSX at all. Only if you do scientific computing with double precision you have an advantage with the Radeon VII, but not with normal workload.

(If you want to game the best choice is Bootcamp + GTX1080Ti, but this doesn't look your primary task).

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2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
2018 15" MacBook Pro (RP560X) [8th,6C,H] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (ASUS XG Station Pro) + Win10 & macOS 10.15.4 [build link]  


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Arden Shibley
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Posted by: OliverB

If you have a Razer Core X, you should put an OC Vega 64 in it, you get at least the same performance and no problems in MacOSX at all. Only if you do scientific computing with double precision you have an advantage with the Radeon VII, but not with normal workload.

(If you want to game the best choice is Bootcamp + GTX1080Ti, but this doesn't look your primary task).

Can anyone corroborate? VII worth it for a content creator vs Vega 64 OC?

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


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Juan C. Yunis
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@arden_shibley well, current support for RVII is pretty bad, you have to inject the kext to make it work and it looks that it won't be available for the public release. If you can wait for proper support then yeah it would be better than Vega 64.

For Windows, well, you have a card that potentially performs better "30% faster" than Vega 64 and also "works" with Mac. I did see a big improvements in all the games i play compared to my old limited edition Vega 64, but @oliverb and some guys here are having issues with the performance of the card. For all the games i play with it, the only one that i didn't see an improvement compared to Vega 64, was AC: Odyssey, but that game is known to be a CPU hog.

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2018 Mac Mini Core i7 8700B 32GB RAM 512GB SSD + Razer Core X + AMD Radeon VII


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Arden Shibley
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Hmmmm. Borderline.. There's a Vega 64 WC available on Kijiji in my city for $700 CAD ($525 USD), I'd be selling my Radeon VII and getting that instead, gaining like 1.5mo of fast performance, losing out on fastER performance down the road once VII reaches public eGPU release, and losing some money as well on reselling one of the cards. 

Maybe buy the 64WC for now and hold on to VII until it works? Even if the 64 costs me $150 on the re-sell, that's a pretty cheap rental for a month or more, considering typical theoretical rental price on a $500 item would be $10-15 a day.

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Juan C. Yunis
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@arden_shibley yeah, it doesn't sound too bad. If you are happy with that, then go ahead. Better to have something that works and will make you more productive than waiting for final working solution and having a huge paperweight next to your mac.

2018 Mac Mini Core i7 8700B 32GB RAM 512GB SSD + Razer Core X + AMD Radeon VII


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screendor
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Well, that is precisely my situation.  Waiting to use my brand spanking new Akitio Node Pro and Radeon 7 for my video editing rig--running FCPX.  Y'all have more knowledge about this than me but--IF the Radeon 7 works fine with the official 10.14.4 OS, would it not be better for video rending/exporting that the other option Vega 64 Frontier Edition?  That was my hope when I got it.  Any thoughts, condolences appreciated.

2017 iMac 5K 4.2 GHz Intel Core i7 40 GB 2400 MHz
Internal AMD 580 Pro 8GB; Akitio Node Pro + AMD Radeon VII


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Arden Shibley
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Posted by: screendor

Well, that is precisely my situation.  Waiting to use my brand spanking new Akitio Node Pro and Radeon 7 for my video editing rig--running FCPX.  Y'all have more knowledge about this than me but--IF the Radeon 7 works fine with the official 10.14.4 OS, would it not be better for video rending/exporting that the other option Vega 64 Frontier Edition?  That was my hope when I got it.  Any thoughts, condolences appreciated.

That's how I'm feeling, but there's also a chance it won't have drivers and we'll be waiting at LEAST a month. If you can find a local Vega anything, really, it might be worth eating the resale loss on the used market (hey you could get lucky and break even or even make $10 or something depending) to put one in your Node Pro and get to work, vs paper-weighting it, like me, at least til March 25th, if not longer.

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


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screendor
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Yeah, it's a tough decision @arden_shibley  Think I'll wait until the 25th and see what's what.  Maybe try the kext trick--which I've never done—and see how it works.

2017 iMac 5K 4.2 GHz Intel Core i7 40 GB 2400 MHz
Internal AMD 580 Pro 8GB; Akitio Node Pro + AMD Radeon VII


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Posted by: Juan C. Yunis

...I did see a big improvements in all the games i play compared to my old limited edition Vega 64, but @oliverb and some guys here are having issues with the performance of the card. 

@juan_c_yunis, "Issues" is hard word and of course it is still a powerful card. But it's not as they say, an equal to a GTX1080Ti on gaming. No, this is not true, not for eGPU setups. They obviously didn't have a good GTX1080Ti to compare (if any at all). From my extensive tests it's something in between of a non-OC Vega 56 and a OC GTX 1080 Ti, exactly where I would expect an OC Vega 64.

Of course, you may not forget, its great performance on double precision, but this only serves for scientific tasks. Nobody buys a Tesla Volta for gaming, do they?

@arden_shibley, it's a hard decision, but nothing is final. I like the idea of having multiple cards, I have a lot of cards.

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2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680

 
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