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p_gartner
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April 18, 2019 11:34 pm  

@robin_martin … got the BenQ all set up! Love it, thans for the recommendation. Having trouble with the Windows side in bootcamp its n recognizing the V11. Below is a screenshot of what I get, says code 31. What steps did you take to get that to work? Should I follow these steps from @itsage for setting the AMD V11 up? the steps

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April 19, 2019 2:22 am  

@p_gartner Your best bet is to follow the guides. My 2018 MBP works a bit different and I can boot into Windows with the eGPU running without having to hot plug or anything as long as I don’t want to use the internal dGPU at the same time.

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April 19, 2019 2:25 am  

@acjc66 Which Thunderbolt 2 port are you connecting the eGPU? Check your SIP status again as @Mac_editor recommended.

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April 19, 2019 3:12 am  

@robin_martin … kk, will do. stupid question. its telling me to download certain files. do happen to know which file folder is the driver folder? I tried a few different ones from google searches and its telling I don't have access..

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April 19, 2019 5:20 am  

@robin_martin … Disregard my last message. I figured it out. So, I went through everything and it seemed to be working with the covete the my other graphics card was still being used... so both are up there. within the AMD software settings for the V11 external /discrete and for my Radeon Pro 560 Primary/GPU. Then I restarted after adding MSI Afterburner and the V11 wasn't in the AMD Settings and under Device manager they are both there but the V11 has an ! over it with (code 12). The only thing I may have done wrong was when I went through MAtt HD's video was leave the V11 plugged in, maybe its supposed to be disconnected? Think im gonna try Matt HD direction over again, then if that doesn't work maybe install the latest drivers from AMD'S Site, any thoughts? thanks for your support! Pete

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April 19, 2019 1:35 pm  

@itsage @mac_editor Guys I'm really running out of ideas now, So as far as I can tell I've done everything you mention like reinstalling purge wrangler without amd legacy drivers and checking sip is disabled. Turns out the egpu is not working on either my Mac Pro or my 2018 MacBook Pro - I stupidly mistook my amd vega 20 for the vii on the latter. I'm starting to think the card or razor core x v2 are the issue. Do you guys have any other suggestions? Cause I'm going to send them both back to amazon if not while I can. Both macs are running the latest beta and both register the core x and card under system info but when I plug in the egpu to any thunderbolt port the little square at the top says no egpu and then vanishes after I click it. I even get a gpu improperly disconnected message when I turn the razor off! So frustrating... 

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April 19, 2019 2:44 pm  

@acjc66 if it didn’t work in the 2018 MBP, likely a fault with one of the hardware perhaps. Best to return/replace both. Assuming everything was connected up correctly (including the power cables to the GPU). 

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April 19, 2019 5:31 pm  

@acjc66 Could be a faulty GPU or loose connection somewhere. The Razer Core X showed up in System Information > Thunderbolt tree so I think it's fine. Check the two PCIe power cables. Make sure all 8-pins are properly seated in the two receptacles.

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April 19, 2019 5:49 pm  

@robin_martin … Wanted to report back. I went back and repeated my steps for the Matt HD's 19.3.3 driver install and @itsage step by step directions to get the eGPU running properly. Seems that I did miss one key step, I left the eGPU plugged in and on through entire setup. Forgot the Hot-Plug step, so I went back and started from the beginning steps!

Everything seems stable and working with both AMD dGPU and AMD eGPU working properly. Big thanks to @itsage for your step by step guidance doc and  @robin_martin valuable insight and help getting me through the process! Many thanks!

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April 20, 2019 9:46 pm  

VII owners that were previously Vega 64 owners: Worth the upgrade?

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April 20, 2019 10:10 pm  

Not sure it it's worth the upgrade for gaming, because I'm not a gamer, but for compute. Definitely.
A single VII is like 2 Frontiers worth of compute from the benchmarks I've run. For software that makes proper use of it, it's pretty amazing.

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April 22, 2019 12:43 pm  

So how do you like it? I bought the VII +Core X but gave up and stuck with my 2080 because it seemed complicated to get it all running. I’m on a 15” 2018 MBP

What software do you use?

Im waiting for official bootcamp support but not sure when that will be. So I'm unsure if I should try it again.

Question; when you uninstall the AMD drivers for the GPU that’s inside the MBP, does that prohibit you from using bootcamp without the egpu? I use Windows on-the-go but also would like to dock at home for more power.

Another question; when Apple (or whoever) eventually supports the VII without the workarounds, will they just update seamlessly or will the maintenance after getting this done be as complicated? I don’t mind to do these guides to get everything running if I only have to do it once. But I can’t afford to spend the time poking around and tweaking if it breaks every time a Windows update comes out or something of that nature. Thanks!

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April 22, 2019 1:10 pm  

This is a general statement regarding the Radeon VII for external graphics use. I have tried this card in macOS, Windows, and Linux and it's not ready. The fans would run full speed when the connection with the host computer is suspended. Same behavior with laptop as well as desktop across different brands and enclosures. If you're on the fence whether to buy it, I would say to wait for driver/firmware improvements.

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April 22, 2019 6:35 pm  

I see that there's a new developer beta out today.  Any changes re: Radeon VII?

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April 22, 2019 7:04 pm  

with a Core X, fans are still revving up when put to sleep. No noticeable changes for me.

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April 22, 2019 9:37 pm  

Are you guys talking about the Core X fans or the Radeon VII fans revving up on sleep?  If it's the Core X, does this not happen with other cards?

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April 22, 2019 10:01 pm  

@kushnyc Radeon VII fans.

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April 23, 2019 4:59 am  

@robin_martin  … question about your setup? here is how I currently have mine... MBPro connected to core x with type c, core x connected to the ben q monitor directly with displayport. Then the MBPro connected (opposite side of MBP - type c port) to my Caldigit with type c cable, hdmi cable from the caldigit to the ben q. I'm  asking because you have a similar setup and I'm wondering if this is the most effective setup? Also, as far as the radeon drivers go are you running the latest from AMD or the 19.3.3 from matt HD? Just wondering cause all the sudden I'm getting a code 12 again out of no where? thanks in advance! 

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April 23, 2019 1:54 pm  

@p_gartner That’s pretty much what I’m doing, except for DisplayPort instead of HDMI out of the CalDigit. I’m still using the stock Radeon Adrenalin drivers. I haven’t messed with the other ones yet.

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April 23, 2019 7:20 pm  

@juan_c_yunis I just setup the Core X with Radeon VII last night.  I have it connected to a 2017 13" MBP (no Touch Bar) in clamshell mode running macOS 10.14.5 beta 3.  I haven't experienced the fan revving issue when putting to sleep yet, but I will continue monitoring.  I did perform an NVRAM reset after installing the beta.  Not sure if this made a difference.

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April 23, 2019 7:33 pm  

FWIW, at least in MacOS (sleep is disabled in my current Win10 setup) I've not experienced the fan issue with a Core v2 and Radeon VII either. 

It does take an unusually long time for the egpu/usb peripherals to sleep, and the egpu/peripherals come back on shortly after sleeping for about a minute then go back off, and I've had them spontaneously come on for about a minute after 6+ hours of normal sleeping, then go back to sleep.  Never had the gpu fans go to max while sleeping though, so far.

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April 24, 2019 12:04 am  

@ningauble77, I have the same experience in both Win 10 and MacOS in terms of Radeon VII fan speed. Everything is fine except for at shut down, when the fans on the Radeon VII spin to max.

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April 24, 2019 1:47 am  

I appreciate a lot of people are having the sleep fan issues... I'm curious if there is a pattern as to what the affected configurations have in common.

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April 24, 2019 3:15 am  

I've created a Google Form to try and narrow down and find out what's causing the Radeon VII to have sleep/shutdown issues with some, and not others.

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Do try to help by filling up the form. No emails are logged, and egpu.io username is not required. The only compulsory questions are whether you are having any sleep/shutdown issues, and the model of your Mac.

Results can be viewed on this Google Spreadsheet.

Thanks in advance!

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April 24, 2019 7:30 am  

@kelvin_tan
I didn't experience any sleep fan issues with a 10.14.4 beta and injected kext. Does this count? Those sleep issues have come with 10.14.5 beta where is runs without any injection, haven't they?

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April 24, 2019 12:27 pm  

@oliverb thanks for pointing it out, will put it into the relevant question (OS).

the fans only had issues for you in 10.14.5? I would infer that to be a kext issue then, but some folks using 10.14.5 had no issues with sleep.

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April 24, 2019 12:32 pm  
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@oliverb thanks for pointing it out, will put it into the relevant question (OS).

the fans only had issues for you in 10.14.5? I would infer that to be a kext issue then, but some folks using 10.14.5 had no issues with sleep.

I actually didn't have any issues at all, because I have never tried with 10.14.5. I returned the card the day 10.14.5 (non-beta) came out and was disappoint that it wasn't supported.
It's important to know that I didn't test very extensive on MacOSX because the performance was really bad with 10.14.4 beta.

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April 24, 2019 9:57 pm  

Upgraded to 10.14.5 public beta 3 and no changes in MacOS, sleep works nominally as it should, may possibly have brief random wakeups but will not know that til I test it overnight.

Quick update:  I upgraded to Beta 3 and have been experiencing serious issues.  Mac would not get past the apple logo booting with egpu attached.  I reset the smc and now egpu is not detected on any port in MacOS.  Will update when have more info, I would advise people to be cautious upgrading to Public Beta 3.

Update to Quick update. the problem was not my egpu, the problem is one of the backup USB drives I had plugged into the system.  After resetting the Core v2 by pulling its power cord for 20s, it works fine again, and Macbook Pro boots fine so long as my windows backup drive isn't attached.  Plugging the drive in after boot causes no issues, it just can't be there at POST.  I connected the drive with nothing else attached and the Macbook hung on the apple logo again.  Will report this incompatibility to Apple.

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April 24, 2019 10:41 pm  

UPDATE:  I finally heard/saw the Radeon VII's fans revving after putting my MacBook to sleep.  The Radeon VII's LEDs are all off.  No reboots or other system changes made since my prior report.  

@kelvin_tan you might want to update my entry in the spreadsheet.  

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April 25, 2019 12:04 am  

It's important to keep calm and don't panic.

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April 25, 2019 12:41 am  

I'm sure that we will get proper VII support like Vega 64 got it before. Hopefully by final 10.14.5.

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April 25, 2019 11:03 am  

Not sure if "Max speed fans" issue related to OS drivers. In my case it always happens after connection lost on thunderbolt cable (no differences between shutdown, sleep or physical disconnect ). So I hope will be some firmware update for my Akitio node or bios for GPU. 
Comparing to Nvidia GPU it even not start working if no connection to thunderbolt port.

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April 25, 2019 11:18 am  

Yes, @alex_ai   I get the exact same performance with my Akitio Node Pro: fans spin on sleep and shutdown.  Interestingly, the fans have NEVER spun up during the past 3 weeks of intensive editing.  

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April 25, 2019 11:33 am  

@alex_ai that's weird. a physical disconnect - as in the enclosure with the radeon vii is not connected via TB3 to anything - stops the card entirely. The only time fans rev up is on system sleep/shutdown, while it's connected.

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April 25, 2019 2:20 pm  

@kelvin_tan yes it is very strange and root cause of my issue with fans. There are no differences between disconnected cable and power off mac (no signal in cable) 
I recorded video and as you can see it without cable and red lights of GPU (and as I wrote before with NVidia card different behavior )
https://photos.app.goo.gl/N2PbDEH38wKJa1r9A

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April 25, 2019 4:30 pm  

The card need a bios or a driver update mostly to run decently with eGPU enclosures.
The same have been done before either on macOS and windows to solve these issues on the RXxxx cards.

Tho i would not expect any fix in the near future.

AMD is busy with the Navi console gpu and the Ryzen 3k launch soon.
So far i don't think it have enough resources to address customers issues for a poorly sold gpu, unfortunately.
Someone can still reach an AMD rep about, asking just for fun if the issue is the same on a MI25 Instinct card! 🙄 

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