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itsage
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May 28, 2019 12:32 pm  

@kelvin_tan Very nice work on CLC of the Radeon VII! I've been toying with the idea of doing one too. Rather than constraining ourselves with the Core X's outer shell, we should only consider the L-inner frame. Even with the stock ATX power supply in place, there's enough space to mount a small pump/reservoir combo like the one you used. Regarding the 240 radiator, I think it would be amazing to float it on top through the use of frigid tubing.

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Kelvin Tan
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May 28, 2019 1:15 pm  

@arden_shibley I believe the r7 is meant to go under water. The original cooling solution while it looks nice, is loud, and junction temp still goes above 100C.

If you are using it just for work it's not really an issue, but gaming it's not ideal.

Go cheap if you are going to go water cool it since we are not doing CPU cooling in an egpu. Let's assume I buy everything from bykski

  • bykski r7 waterblock (less than usd$100 with shipping)
  • A good DDC pump with a small cap reservoir ($80)
  • 120mm radiator (usd$40)
  • Pipes + fittings ($50)
  • One noctua a12x25 (usd$30)

Forget the controller and run them at full speed, it's still quite quiet, total cost about $300.

Alternatively, get a ek slim 120 kit (usd$220) and a bykski waterblock (usd$80). Also $300.

In general for water cooling the equipment pays off as you can reuse them. I don't like running them at full speeds because it shortens the lifespan of the pump but it'll still last a good 5 years or so at full speeds (with proper maintenance). A controller like the Quadro is about usd$60.

For coolant just get cheap car radiator distilled water.

It helps in an egpu because we lose about 15% performance which can be recouped by overclocking under water if you so wish to.

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Kelvin Tan
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May 28, 2019 1:34 pm  

@itsage thanks, I think manufacturers should start looking at egpu boxes and see them more as miniature computer cases than an appliance type of box - meaning cutouts and mounting for fans and rads. With thunderbolt standard set to grow in popularity, we hopefully will see more innovation in this area. Till now it's just "here's a box where you can throw a GPU in".

I'll probably hack up the old core X as a prototype. Any cutting work involves the shell which at worse I can discard lol.

@arden_shibley and everyone else... A thought just came to my mind. Actually there might be a way to solve the problem easily. Break out just the +12v and ground for the r7 fan header, and connect it to the Razer core X fan header. Leave the pwm and tach cables connected to the r7.

That way, the fans are regulated by the r7, and when the enclosure sleeps, I believe the 12v supply on the core X fan header is suspended... Let me do some tests first haha. But this way you'll get full sleep with no fans running, as the 12v won't be live.

Edit: @itsage just reread your post. You are right! Discard the shell, get a nice wooden enclosure that fits... what matters is just the L enclosure innards.

Mmmmmm you just gave me my next project for fun haha.

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X1 Yoga Gen3, X1 Tablet Gen 3, MacBook Pro 15" 2018
Razer Core X / Mantiz Venus
Asrock Radeon VII, Zotac Nvidia 1080Ti Amp Core Extreme, Powercolor Vega 56 reference (flashed to V64 bios)


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Roedi78
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Jun 3, 2019 7:53 am  

Hey @kelvin_tan ,
can you please post / pm me some screenshots of your WattMan profile you're using with your water cooled Radeon VII? How far can you push it?
Thanks a lot, man! 😉 

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Sonnet Breakaway Box 650 TB3 /wAMD Sapphire Radeon VII 16GB


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Kelvin Tan
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Jun 3, 2019 9:07 am  

@roedi78 heya no probs i just ran some benchmarks for you again - posting here now.

I used MSI Afterburner instead of Wattman, as I find Wattman somewhat unreliable.

Predominantly run two settings: 1 undervolted and 1 overclocked - depending on how far i need to push the card. Summary table here:

Core Clock Core Voltage Power Limit Memory Clock

Superposition
4k Optimised Score

Max Temp Max Junction Temp
1801MHz 980mV +20% 1200MHz 7301 51C 74C
2000MHz 1100mV +20% 1200MHz 7949 59 94C

OVERCLOCKED SCREENSHOT

MSI Afterburner v4.6.1 hardware monitor 2019 06 03 16.30.38

UNDERVOLTED SCREENSHOT

MSI Afterburner v4.6.1 hardware monitor 2019 06 03 16.39.25

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Razer Core X / Mantiz Venus
Asrock Radeon VII, Zotac Nvidia 1080Ti Amp Core Extreme, Powercolor Vega 56 reference (flashed to V64 bios)


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Roedi78
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Jun 3, 2019 9:21 am  

@kelvin_tan : thanks a lot!

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 macOS Mojave 10.14.5 beta w/Win10 (1809) BootCamp
Sonnet Breakaway Box 650 TB3 /wAMD Sapphire Radeon VII 16GB


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Kelvin Tan
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Jun 3, 2019 10:39 am  

@roedi78 Tweaked things further. I think this is as far as I'll go.


MSI Afterburner v4.6.1 hardware monitor 2019 06 03 18.30.09 (2)


Steps taken

Temps are:

  • Core Temp: 61C
  • Junction Temp: 105C
  • Memory Temp: 60C
  • VRM 1 Temp: 62C
  • VRM 2 Temp: 47C
  • VRM 3 Temp: 52C
  • VRM 4 Temp: 52C

MSI Afterburner v4.6.1 hardware monitor 2019 06 03 18.30.09

X1 Yoga Gen3, X1 Tablet Gen 3, MacBook Pro 15" 2018
Razer Core X / Mantiz Venus
Asrock Radeon VII, Zotac Nvidia 1080Ti Amp Core Extreme, Powercolor Vega 56 reference (flashed to V64 bios)


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Roedi78
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Jun 3, 2019 11:13 am  
Posted by: Kelvin Tan

@roedi78 Tweaked things further. I think this is as far as I'll go.


YESSSSS..... 😎 
Can't wait to get my water block...

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automate-eGPU EFI 1.0.5 USB w/DSDT override
 macOS Mojave 10.14.5 beta w/Win10 (1809) BootCamp
Sonnet Breakaway Box 650 TB3 /wAMD Sapphire Radeon VII 16GB


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Robin_Martin
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Jun 4, 2019 3:36 am  

Developer beta for 10.15 is out so we might see if there are any driver updates coming for eGPU support soon.

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2018 MBP i9, 32GB, Vega 20; Razer Core X, Radeon VII


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itsage
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Jun 4, 2019 12:01 pm  

@robin_martin I looked through the driver list and it's the same as latest 10.14.6 Beta build.

### AMD7000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6780 - Tahiti XT GL [FirePro W9000]
* pci device: 6780 - Tahiti XT GL [FirePro W9000]
* pci device: 6790 - unknown device
* pci device: 6790 - unknown device
* pci device: 6798 - Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
* pci device: 6798 - Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
* pci device: 679a - Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]
* pci device: 679a - Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]
* pci device: 679e - Tahiti LE [Radeon HD 7870 XT]
* pci device: 679e - Tahiti LE [Radeon HD 7870 XT]
* pci device: 6800 - Wimbledon XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
* pci device: 6800 - Wimbledon XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
* pci device: 6801 - Neptune XT [Radeon HD 8970M]
* pci device: 6801 - Neptune XT [Radeon HD 8970M]
* pci device: 6806 - Neptune
* pci device: 6806 - Neptune
* pci device: 6808 - Pitcairn XT GL [FirePro W7000]
* pci device: 6808 - Pitcairn XT GL [FirePro W7000]
* pci device: 6810 - Curacao XT / Trinidad XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370X]
* pci device: 6810 - Curacao XT / Trinidad XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370X]
* pci device: 6818 - Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]
* pci device: 6818 - Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]
* pci device: 6819 - Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP]
* pci device: 6819 - Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP]
* pci device: 6820 - Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]
* pci device: 6820 - Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]
* pci device: 6821 - Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X]
* pci device: 6821 - Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X]
* pci device: 6823 - Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X]
* pci device: 6823 - Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X]
* pci device: 6825 - Heathrow XT [Radeon HD 7870M]
* pci device: 6825 - Heathrow XT [Radeon HD 7870M]
* pci device: 6827 - Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
* pci device: 6827 - Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
* pci device: 682b - Cape Verde PRO / Venus LE / Tropo PRO-L [Radeon HD 8830M / R7 250 / R7 M465X]
* pci device: 682b - Cape Verde PRO / Venus LE / Tropo PRO-L [Radeon HD 8830M / R7 250 / R7 M465X]
* pci device: 682d - Chelsea XT GL [FirePro M4000]
* pci device: 682d - Chelsea XT GL [FirePro M4000]
* pci device: 682f - Chelsea LP [Radeon HD 7730M]
* pci device: 682f - Chelsea LP [Radeon HD 7730M]
* pci device: 6835 - Cape Verde PRX [Radeon R9 255 OEM]
* pci device: 6835 - Cape Verde PRX [Radeon R9 255 OEM]
* pci device: 6839 - unknown device
* pci device: 6839 - unknown device
* pci device: 683b - unknown device
* pci device: 683b - unknown device
* pci device: 683d - Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X]
* pci device: 683d - Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X]
* pci device: 683f - Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]
* pci device: 683f - Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]

### AMD8000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6640 - Saturn XT [FirePro M6100]
* pci device: 6640 - Saturn XT [FirePro M6100]
* pci device: 6641 - Saturn PRO [Radeon HD 8930M]
* pci device: 6641 - Saturn PRO [Radeon HD 8930M]
* pci device: 6646 - Bonaire XT [Radeon R9 M280X]
* pci device: 6646 - Bonaire XT [Radeon R9 M280X]
* pci device: 6647 - Saturn PRO/XT [Radeon R9 M270X/M280X]
* pci device: 6647 - Saturn PRO/XT [Radeon R9 M270X/M280X]
* pci device: 6650 - Bonaire
* pci device: 6650 - Bonaire
* pci device: 6651 - Bonaire
* pci device: 6651 - Bonaire
* pci device: 665c - Bonaire XT [Radeon HD 7790/8770 / R7 360 / R9 260/360 OEM]
* pci device: 665c - Bonaire XT [Radeon HD 7790/8770 / R7 360 / R9 260/360 OEM]
* pci device: 665d - Bonaire [Radeon R7 200 Series]
* pci device: 665d - Bonaire [Radeon R7 200 Series]
* pci device: 67b0 - Hawaii XT / Grenada XT [Radeon R9 290X/390X]
* pci device: 67b0 - Hawaii XT / Grenada XT [Radeon R9 290X/390X]

### AMD9000Controller.kext
* pci device: 6920 - unknown device
* pci device: 6920 - unknown device
* pci device: 6921 - Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6921 - Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6930 - unknown device
* pci device: 6930 - unknown device
* pci device: 6938 - Tonga XT / Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 380X / R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6938 - Tonga XT / Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 380X / R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6939 - Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380]
* pci device: 6939 - Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380]
* pci device: 7300 - Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]
* pci device: 7300 - Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]
* pci device: 730f - unknown device
* pci device: 730f - unknown device

### AMD9500Controller.kext
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100 Mobile]
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100 Mobile]
* pci device: 67c1 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c1 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c2 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67c2 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67c4 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67c4 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67c7 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 5100]
* pci device: 67c7 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 5100]
* pci device: 67c8 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c8 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c9 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c9 - unknown device
* pci device: 67ca - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67ca - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cc - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cc - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cf - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cf - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67d0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67d0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4170]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4170]
* pci device: 67e1 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e1 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e3 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4100]
* pci device: 67e3 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4100]
* pci device: 67e7 - unknown device
* pci device: 67e7 - unknown device
* pci device: 67e8 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4130/4150]
* pci device: 67e8 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4130/4150]
* pci device: 67e9 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e9 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67eb - Baffin [Radeon Pro V5300X]
* pci device: 67eb - Baffin [Radeon Pro V5300X]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/555X/560/560X]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/555X/560/560X]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X]

### AMD10000Controller.kext
* pci device: 66a0 - Vega 20 [Radeon Instinct]
* pci device: 66a0 - Vega 20 [Radeon Instinct]
* pci device: 66a1 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a1 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a2 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a2 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a3 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a3 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a7 - Vega 20 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]
* pci device: 66a7 - Vega 20 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]
* pci device: 66af - Vega 20 [Radeon VII]
* pci device: 66af - Vega 20 [Radeon VII]
* pci device: 6860 - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25]
* pci device: 6860 - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25]
* pci device: 6861 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO WX 9100]
* pci device: 6861 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO WX 9100]
* pci device: 6862 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO SSG]
* pci device: 6862 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO SSG]
* pci device: 6863 - Vega 10 XTX [Radeon Vega Frontier Edition]
* pci device: 6863 - Vega 10 XTX [Radeon Vega Frontier Edition]
* pci device: 6864 - Vega
* pci device: 6864 - Vega
* pci device: 6867 - Vega 10 XL [Radeon Pro Vega 56]
* pci device: 6867 - Vega 10 XL [Radeon Pro Vega 56]
* pci device: 6868 - Vega 10 [Radeon PRO WX 8100/8200]
* pci device: 6868 - Vega 10 [Radeon PRO WX 8100/8200]
* pci device: 6869 - unknown device
* pci device: 6869 - unknown device
* pci device: 686a - unknown device
* pci device: 686a - unknown device
* pci device: 686b - unknown device
* pci device: 686b - unknown device
* pci device: 686c - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25 MxGPU]
* pci device: 686c - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25 MxGPU]
* pci device: 686d - unknown device
* pci device: 686d - unknown device
* pci device: 686e - unknown device
* pci device: 686e - unknown device
* pci device: 687f - Vega 10 XL/XT [Radeon RX Vega 56/64]
* pci device: 687f - Vega 10 XL/XT [Radeon RX Vega 56/64]
* pci device: 69a0 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a0 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a1 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a1 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a2 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a2 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a3 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a3 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69af - Vega 12 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]
* pci device: 69af - Vega 12 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]

### AMDRadeonX4000HWServices.kext
* pci device: 6640 - Saturn XT [FirePro M6100]
* pci device: 6641 - Saturn PRO [Radeon HD 8930M]
* pci device: 6646 - Bonaire XT [Radeon R9 M280X]
* pci device: 6647 - Saturn PRO/XT [Radeon R9 M270X/M280X]
* pci device: 6650 - Bonaire
* pci device: 6651 - Bonaire
* pci device: 665c - Bonaire XT [Radeon HD 7790/8770 / R7 360 / R9 260/360 OEM]
* pci device: 665d - Bonaire [Radeon R7 200 Series]
* pci device: 6780 - Tahiti XT GL [FirePro W9000]
* pci device: 6790 - unknown device
* pci device: 6798 - Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
* pci device: 679a - Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]
* pci device: 679e - Tahiti LE [Radeon HD 7870 XT]
* pci device: 67b0 - Hawaii XT / Grenada XT [Radeon R9 290X/390X]
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100 Mobile]
* pci device: 67c1 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c2 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67c4 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67c7 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 5100]
* pci device: 67c8 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c9 - unknown device
* pci device: 67ca - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cc - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cf - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67d0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4170]
* pci device: 67e1 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e3 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4100]
* pci device: 67e7 - unknown device
* pci device: 67e8 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4130/4150]
* pci device: 67e9 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67eb - Baffin [Radeon Pro V5300X]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/555X/560/560X]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X]
* pci device: 6800 - Wimbledon XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
* pci device: 6801 - Neptune XT [Radeon HD 8970M]
* pci device: 6806 - Neptune
* pci device: 6808 - Pitcairn XT GL [FirePro W7000]
* pci device: 6810 - Curacao XT / Trinidad XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370X]
* pci device: 6818 - Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]
* pci device: 6819 - Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP]
* pci device: 6820 - Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]
* pci device: 6821 - Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X]
* pci device: 6823 - Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X]
* pci device: 6825 - Heathrow XT [Radeon HD 7870M]
* pci device: 6827 - Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
* pci device: 682b - Cape Verde PRO / Venus LE / Tropo PRO-L [Radeon HD 8830M / R7 250 / R7 M465X]
* pci device: 682d - Chelsea XT GL [FirePro M4000]
* pci device: 682f - Chelsea LP [Radeon HD 7730M]
* pci device: 6835 - Cape Verde PRX [Radeon R9 255 OEM]
* pci device: 6839 - unknown device
* pci device: 683b - unknown device
* pci device: 683d - Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X]
* pci device: 683f - Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]
* pci device: 6920 - unknown device
* pci device: 6921 - Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6930 - unknown device
* pci device: 6938 - Tonga XT / Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 380X / R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6939 - Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380]
* pci device: 7300 - Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]
* pci device: 7301 - unknown device

### AMDRadeonX5000HWServices.kext
* pci device: 66a0 - Vega 20 [Radeon Instinct]
* pci device: 66a1 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a2 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a3 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a7 - Vega 20 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]
* pci device: 66af - Vega 20 [Radeon VII]
* pci device: 6860 - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25]
* pci device: 6861 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO WX 9100]
* pci device: 6862 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO SSG]
* pci device: 6863 - Vega 10 XTX [Radeon Vega Frontier Edition]
* pci device: 6864 - Vega
* pci device: 6867 - Vega 10 XL [Radeon Pro Vega 56]
* pci device: 6868 - Vega 10 [Radeon PRO WX 8100/8200]
* pci device: 6869 - unknown device
* pci device: 686a - unknown device
* pci device: 686b - unknown device
* pci device: 686c - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25 MxGPU]
* pci device: 686d - unknown device
* pci device: 686e - unknown device
* pci device: 686f - unknown device
* pci device: 687f - Vega 10 XL/XT [Radeon RX Vega 56/64]
* pci device: 69a0 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a1 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a2 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a3 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69af - Vega 12 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]

### AMDRadeonX4000.kext
* pci device: 6640 - Saturn XT [FirePro M6100]
* pci device: 6641 - Saturn PRO [Radeon HD 8930M]
* pci device: 6646 - Bonaire XT [Radeon R9 M280X]
* pci device: 6647 - Saturn PRO/XT [Radeon R9 M270X/M280X]
* pci device: 6650 - Bonaire
* pci device: 6651 - Bonaire
* pci device: 665c - Bonaire XT [Radeon HD 7790/8770 / R7 360 / R9 260/360 OEM]
* pci device: 665d - Bonaire [Radeon R7 200 Series]
* pci device: 6780 - Tahiti XT GL [FirePro W9000]
* pci device: 6790 - unknown device
* pci device: 6798 - Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
* pci device: 679a - Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]
* pci device: 679e - Tahiti LE [Radeon HD 7870 XT]
* pci device: 67b0 - Hawaii XT / Grenada XT [Radeon R9 290X/390X]
* pci device: 67c0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100 Mobile]
* pci device: 67c1 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c2 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67c4 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 7100]
* pci device: 67c7 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro WX 5100]
* pci device: 67c8 - unknown device
* pci device: 67c9 - unknown device
* pci device: 67ca - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cc - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67cf - Ellesmere [Polaris10]
* pci device: 67d0 - Ellesmere [Radeon Pro V7300X / V7350x2]
* pci device: 67df - Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]
* pci device: 67e0 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4170]
* pci device: 67e1 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67e3 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4100]
* pci device: 67e7 - unknown device
* pci device: 67e8 - Baffin [Radeon Pro WX 4130/4150]
* pci device: 67e9 - Baffin [Polaris11]
* pci device: 67eb - Baffin [Radeon Pro V5300X]
* pci device: 67ef - Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/555X/560/560X]
* pci device: 67ff - Baffin [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X]
* pci device: 6800 - Wimbledon XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
* pci device: 6801 - Neptune XT [Radeon HD 8970M]
* pci device: 6806 - Neptune
* pci device: 6808 - Pitcairn XT GL [FirePro W7000]
* pci device: 6810 - Curacao XT / Trinidad XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370X]
* pci device: 6818 - Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]
* pci device: 6819 - Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP]
* pci device: 6820 - Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]
* pci device: 6821 - Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X]
* pci device: 6823 - Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X]
* pci device: 6825 - Heathrow XT [Radeon HD 7870M]
* pci device: 6827 - Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
* pci device: 682b - Cape Verde PRO / Venus LE / Tropo PRO-L [Radeon HD 8830M / R7 250 / R7 M465X]
* pci device: 682d - Chelsea XT GL [FirePro M4000]
* pci device: 682f - Chelsea LP [Radeon HD 7730M]
* pci device: 6835 - Cape Verde PRX [Radeon R9 255 OEM]
* pci device: 6839 - unknown device
* pci device: 683b - unknown device
* pci device: 683d - Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X]
* pci device: 683f - Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]
* pci device: 6920 - unknown device
* pci device: 6921 - Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6930 - unknown device
* pci device: 6938 - Tonga XT / Amethyst XT [Radeon R9 380X / R9 M295X]
* pci device: 6939 - Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380]
* pci device: 7300 - Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]
* pci device: 730f - unknown device

### AMDRadeonX5000.kext
* pci device: 66a0 - Vega 20 [Radeon Instinct]
* pci device: 66a1 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a2 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a3 - Vega 20
* pci device: 66a7 - Vega 20 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]
* pci device: 66af - Vega 20 [Radeon VII]
* pci device: 6860 - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25]
* pci device: 6861 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO WX 9100]
* pci device: 6862 - Vega 10 XT [Radeon PRO SSG]
* pci device: 6863 - Vega 10 XTX [Radeon Vega Frontier Edition]
* pci device: 6864 - Vega
* pci device: 6867 - Vega 10 XL [Radeon Pro Vega 56]
* pci device: 6868 - Vega 10 [Radeon PRO WX 8100/8200]
* pci device: 6869 - unknown device
* pci device: 686a - unknown device
* pci device: 686b - unknown device
* pci device: 686c - Vega 10 [Radeon Instinct MI25 MxGPU]
* pci device: 686d - unknown device
* pci device: 686e - unknown device
* pci device: 686f - unknown device
* pci device: 687f - Vega 10 XL/XT [Radeon RX Vega 56/64]
* pci device: 69a0 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a1 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a2 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69a3 - Vega 12
* pci device: 69af - Vega 12 [Radeon Pro Vega 20]
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I'll wait for the fan fix and for Apple to list it in their eGPU support article. Then purchase.

@craftsman
What is your status? Radeon VII or Vega 64? Every though about using a 2019 Mac Pro? It should be perfect for a professional like you.

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Jun 5, 2019 6:53 am  

Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

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Jun 5, 2019 8:02 am  
Posted by: craftsman

Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

Great minds think alike. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw those beautiful new modules. Now, if we could just get the Mac Pro team to lower their standards and talk to the "consumer" team, we might have half a chance.

In the meantime, can we please solve the problem with spinning fans, egpu's and Radeon VII's?

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Posted by: craftsman

Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

That would be a dream... and an insta buy.
Sadly I fear it will never happen.

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Jun 6, 2019 12:11 pm  
Posted by: craftsman

Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

I would take it to a different path. 
Have the macbook pro "slot" into the mac pro. This in turn will "turn" the macbook pro, with software and everything, to run under the performance of a stronger CPU with the included stronger GPUs. 
So you get your same environment, same system, just stronger and faster. When you are done, just pull out the macbook pro, and you can work on the road or at home and plug in eGPU and you can still work at home, just with less powerful CPU but stronger GPU than you do on the road.

One system with different encasing for different performance levels.

You can add to that an "automatic backup" into the office encasing, so that can run independently without the macbook pro slot in (if for example you forgot it at home, it got stolen, in repair etc), and just when you do slot it in, it syncs both systems together to keep them coherent.

That way, you don't have to mess around with different systems, different computers, having to sync between them through external drives and copy data constantly, etc.

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Jun 6, 2019 12:36 pm  

Hi @defoler nice to meet you.

That idea has been possible for a long time. A PowerBook could be attached to a Power Mac and booted in Target Mode. Basically the PowerBook's drive would boot on the Power Mac hardware. That's the beauty of how portable macOS is, as long as the OS is compatible with the hardware it boots on.

Slotting a laptop into a desktop though raises inevitable problems with scratches, connection faults, wear and tear, etc. 

We are better off just sharing data with removable drives, across local networks or the cloud. There's fewer things that can go wrong hardware-wise.

The Power Color Radeon VII arrived today. I'll post results tonight.

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Jun 6, 2019 8:20 pm  

Solid Radeon VII results. 50K in Luxmark too.

I have the sleep fan bug. I can live with detaching until there is an update.

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Jun 6, 2019 9:00 pm  

An IOThunderboltLocalNode is a driver that receives special types of Thunderbolt packets (not PCIe or DisplayPort) from another computer. In macOS there is Target Display Mode Sink (receives video from another computer) and Thunderbolt IP Service (receives networking packets from another computer). The other computer runs a service to use the node.

An IOThunderboltXDomainService sends special types of Thunderbolt packets (not PCIe or DisplayPort) to another computer. In macOS there is Target Display Mode Source (sends video to another computer), Thunderbolt IP Transmitter (transmits networking packets to another computer), and Target Disk Mode (sends target disk mode commands to another computer). The other computer runs a node to receive commands or data from a service.

I know there is a Target Disk Mode node at EFI time (that's the only time you can enable Target Disk Mode node because there's no macOS node for Target Disk Mode). Does a Target Disk Mode service exist at EFI boot time? A Target Disk Mode service in EFI is necessary for the Mac to boot from a Target disk Mode node.

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Jun 10, 2019 3:16 pm  

Hi craftsman
i was hesitating because of the fan "problem", but you seem to say its not so important, fine.

So this thing appart, my main choice is now to follow Apple, AMD and Adobe recommandations and choose a PRO series WX 8200 or 9100... or jump into the "unknown" and choose the VII.
I want to use it with Premiere and VR stictching softwares like Mistika in order to boost my 2016 i7 15" MacBookPro.

Thanks.

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Jun 17, 2019 4:11 am  

I always worry when a thread like this goes quiet that we are all stuck with a piece of expensive hardware for which no fix to a very obvious problem can be found. As most of you know, I have my Radeon VII inside a Razer Core X attached to a Mac Mini 2018. This configuration gives a different result to most other Mac connections in that the spinning fan happily starts and stops when the system starts and stops without any problem. It's only when I enter sleep that the fans start spinning continously at somewhere between 60-70%. It used to spin at 100% when entering sleep but a Beta release managed to change it in some way. As an Engineer by trade, these little differences in behaviour across different egpu connections tells me that a fix is certainly possible. The trouble is that our egpu community is still not large enough to cause AMD (or Apple) a problem and therefore nobody is inetersted in fixing the fault.

Can I suggest that we all take turns in keeping this thread alive?

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Hoping Catalina will bring good news 🙂 

Hey imagine having a 5700 XT and waiting for THAT to be supported, lmao.

Today I opened up my Core X to swap out the 80mm fan for a Noctua, the one they use is actually a server fan that spins at 3,900rpm. Ridiculous. 

So there's a good and a bad part to this, I'll start with the good. I learned the fan is voltage controlled based on temperature inside the Core X PSU. The fan does not ramp up to max as soon as a load is applied (in my case, CS:GO on max settings) and it ramps higher if cooling is insufficient (tested by stopping the fan and watching voltage climb from 9.xx to 11.xx volts). 

The bad part: I accidentally shorted out the fan pin near the end and probably fried a diode, so my fan voltage is now pinned at 2.3v where it previously was 3.9-12v. Useless. So I installed the Noctua and plugged it into the Core X's fan header that I don't use because I have an AIO Vega 64. Runs fine around 5v, my basement is cool so I'm sure the PSU is fine. Anyway... don't short out the fan pins on your PSU but rest easy knowing that the voltage is intelligently managed based on temperature and you can swap out the MGA8012YR-O25 they use for an NF-R8 redux-1800 with only a little soldering to reuse their 2-pin connector, and you're set! No more noisy PSU. 

FYI the capacitor in the Core X PSU sits around 53v. Enough to give your hand a buzz if you short it or ground it, but not enough to kill you on the spot... it drains decently fast, just put your multimeter on it and watch it come down to a save voltage before beginning work.

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If they had this much trouble getting RVII to work, and VII is based on Vega architecture, then waiting for a whole new beast (Navi) might be a long time.

OR it's a big priority for them and they'll hit one button and it'll be live by the third update of Catalina. One or the other I'm betting. Hahaha

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I created an account just because I got so lost trying to figure everything out as a noob that I figured maybe someone would benefit. 

Radeon 7 does in fact work on the current OS, Ive had no issues so far though I've only tested it for a day on the Mac side. Bootcamp side is a different story but ill spare you the nasty details of that one. I was on tech support with apple for hours because it didn't want to show up at first but I got sent some drivers to download via email and it worked after that. 

My MacBook does NOT like using it though and will default to the internal GPU when possible. This is quite a pain as you can imagine but there's quite a simple work around for it. Simply find the app you're wanting to use and quick look it. In this case I'll use city skylines as an example because I already had it up.

Pull up the app location, mine happened to be located in the following:
Macintosh HD⁩ ▸ ⁨Users⁩ ▸ ⁨"user" ▸ ⁨Library⁩ ▸ ⁨Application Support⁩ ▸ ⁨Steam⁩ ▸ ⁨steamapps⁩ ▸ ⁨common⁩ ▸ ⁨Cities_Skylines⁩

Click the app once then Command I and it'll pull up an info tab, in this case its called Cities.app Info. Theres a box that says prefer external GPU (only there if external GPU is connected). Once you click that box the app will default to the external GPU instead. I advent fully tested how well the 7 works but I can tell you that it does in fact work. I hope this helps someone out there that may have one but doesn't think its being used properly by their Mac. I was on the phone with support for 2 hours before they said "ohh the Mac won't switch to the external until the load is too high" (facepalm).

Now to figure out how to get bootcamp to recognize the dern thing.

Edit: I do ge the fan spin up issue though when the MBP goes in to sleep. randomly spins up then stops.

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Jun 19, 2019 8:03 am  

The sleep fan issue will have to be fixed by AMD in a firmware update. It's not an operating system or driver thing.

With Catalina there's no point doing OpenGL or OpenCL performance tests any longer. Test Metal only from now and urge your favourite app developers to update to Metal if they haven't already.

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Jun 19, 2019 9:13 am  
Posted by: craftsman

The sleep fan issue will have to be fixed by AMD in a firmware update. It's not an operating system thing.

With Catalina there's no point doing OpenGL or OpenCL performance tests any longer. Test Metal only from now and urge your favourite app developers to update to Metal if they haven't already.

AMD just told me not to hold my breath for driver support for the VII. They didn’t specify why but simply stated that bootcamp driver support isn’t expected on their end for some time. I don’t think any firmware update will be coming any time soon from them.

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Jun 19, 2019 1:39 pm  

@beardedbro

New drivers won't make a difference for this bug.

They did release a firmware update for the VII but it was for a PC UEFI issue and doesn't resolve the eGPU fan sleep bug.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/radeonvii-vbios-eula

 

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Ah, I can’t even update my drivers on the bootcamp side because AMD and apple seem to not be getting along well after Apple removed a lot eGPU support. AMD is blaming apple for not having the 7 supported in their bootcamp driver section and Apple is saying it’s amd’s problem. Or at least that’s what I’m understanding when I contacted both concerning the issue of not being able to update drivers. 

At least it works on the the Apple side of things

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Jun 19, 2019 2:41 pm  

@beardedbro

You may have spoken to a low level AMD support person who doesn't understand how Bootcamp works.

Apple Bootcamp drivers only include drivers for hardware components that are featured in Macs. There are no Macs currently shipping with the VII. When that changes then the Bootcamp drivers will be updated. macOS only just included VII drivers recently and the new Mac Pro features GPUs based on the same Vega 20 chip. So Bootcamp drivers will be updated this fall.

eGPU support in Bootcamp  isn't officially supported yet for any graphics card. People use software patches to enable this. I don't use Bootcamp or play games so I don't need to think about this.

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Jun 19, 2019 2:51 pm  

Ah thanks for the help, I don’t know much (trying to learn) so that’s all news to me. Sounds like I need to learn how to do some patch work to get it to run on bootcamp till it’s updated. Thanks for the help.

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I personally don't recommend the Radeon VII for eGPU use. The best value and well optimized card is RX Vega 56. For Boot Camp you can use automate-eGPU EFI, apple_set_os.efi, or rEFInd.

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Jun 19, 2019 4:03 pm  

To add a side note, i would hope readers would listen in future, when an old tech priest told you to check carefully AMD product depending the usage case, it simply mean there are quite a few evidences showing that AMD don't necessarily deliver quality products for prosumers, but rather DIY oriented products.

I hope next time buyers will take some seconds to read user feedback comments, before purchasing something so expensive that is somehow broken.

Keep this in mind for future AMD products, don't bet that AMD as company is still serious enough to provide decent support for its own products.

Simply spend some time researching if the product one need would work for the specific usage case, this can be applied to any purchase.

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I personally don't recommend the Radeon VII for eGPU use. The best value and well optimized card is RX Vega 56. For Boot Camp you can use automate-eGPU EFI, apple_set_os.efi, or rEFInd.

Would you expect that to change with better drivers through the second half of 2019 or no?

Basically HEY ITSAGE SHOULD I SELL MY RADEON VII?

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Jun 19, 2019 8:25 pm  

@arden_shibley

There's nothing wrong with VII drivers. Metal apps will run extremely fast. itsage is talking about costs and performance per watt if anyone is considering that.

Here are some performance numbers. They are more or less the same in Catalina, but we expect more apps to be ported to Metal now that GL and CL are going.

https://barefeats.com/rmbp-2019-560x-vs-vii.html

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@arden_shibley

There's nothing wrong with VII drivers. Metal apps will run extremely fast. itsage is talking about costs and performance per watt if anyone is considering that.

I have my V64 LC in the Core X and a RVII currently serving as a paper weight. I think the idea is eventually to sell one, either the RVII isn't all it cracked up to be and I'll stick with my 64, OR the VII is ready / worth it, and I'll flip the V64.

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Jun 19, 2019 8:40 pm  

I guess the question for me is: should I ditch the Radeon 7 (which sits inside a perfectly nice Akitio Node Pro)?  I use it for editing in FCPX--that's all.  Don't think it's really getting a workout since it's not optimized/recognized explicitly for Mojave/FCPX?

So: will it ever be "officially" sanctioned with Catalina in the fall?  Also, FCPX apparently will be rewritten then to take advantage of dual or more GPUs--but will Radeon VII be on the "in" list?

Options seems to be:
1. Wait and hope
2. Ditch the VII and a get Vega 56 or 64 now
3. Wait and get a new Radeon Pro Vega II which will lauch with the Mac Pro in the fall.

I don't need super fantastic kit, just want nice performance.  And for whatever reason, I've had issues the the 580 that sits inside my main edit computer--a full spec 2017 iMac.
Any advice appreciated.  Still new to the whole eGPU world.  Thanks.

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