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OliverB
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Posted by: itsage

I personally don't recommend the Radeon VII for eGPU use. The best value and well optimized card is RX Vega 56. For Boot Camp you can use automate-eGPU EFI, apple_set_os.efi, or rEFInd.

Very precise. I had both, a Vega56 and a Radeon VII tested in eGPU environment and there is not that much difference. There are even some applications/games that run better with the Vega56.

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craftsman
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Posted by: Arden Shibley
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@arden_shibley

There's nothing wrong with VII drivers. Metal apps will run extremely fast. itsage is talking about costs and performance per watt if anyone is considering that.

I have my V64 LC in the Core X and a RVII currently serving as a paper weight. I think the idea is eventually to sell one, either the RVII isn't all it cracked up to be and I'll stick with my 64, OR the VII is ready / worth it, and I'll flip the V64.

It all depends what your needs and budget are. But if anyone says that a 56/64 can outperform or match the VII they are using non-optimal apps or running an irrelevant useless thing like Geekbench which several people have mentioned is seeing numbers coming down, down, down on the Mac for reasons only known to Geekbench. We should only be using optimised Metal apps and nothing else going forward with Catalina.

Some more Metal results:

https://barefeats.com/macs-and-radeon-vii.html

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itsage
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The Radeon VII fan running full speed in suspend mode is a board issue. Nothing short of a firmware update would fix it. I had contacted AMD XConnect team for further clarification but the email exchange didn’t get far. I also asked for insights from an AMD GPU vendor and they said macOS drivers can’t fix that issue.

There’s no doubt the Radeon VII is the most powerful AMD GPU atm. My personal recommendation for the RX Vega 56 is not only based on value but also on day-to-day experience. The card plays nice with most eGPU enclosure due to lower power requirement. It also benefits from the Blackagic eGPU Pro with the same chip.

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screendor
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Thanks, @itsage.   Yes, perhaps it's just that the VII has yet to be addressed by FCPX because it's not on the official list?  Thus, the Vega 56 and 64 would work better since they are?

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Ningauble77
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I've been running the Radeon VII in both MacOS and Windows for a while now.  Performance for gaming in Windows and MacOS is quite good.  Stability in windows is also excellent.  Stability in MacOS strikes me as beta-quality right now.  I still have to turn off and turn on my monitor for MacOS to detect the display.  I've also experienced several system freezes since updating to the release version of 10.14.5.  I didn't initially associate the freezes with the egpu, the entire system would be unresponsive, including the touch bar.  The second time it happened I hot-unplugged the egpu, and the internal display/touchbar came back to life.  This has happened only a handful of times, but it is probably the most number of freezes I've experienced in MacOS in a short period of time.  I've also had issues twice with the internal intel display showing artifacts after properly disconnecting the egpu.  Restarting solved them, but I am suspicious again this was due to the state of the MacOS Radeon VII drivers.

The only issue I've had in Windows is that an in-place driver upgrade sometimes yields a black screen halfway through the install process, leaving me with working drivers after a forced shutdown, but no Radeon Control Panel.  DDU removal of the drivers, restart, hot plug and reinstall in Windows yields a proper installation.  I am currently running the latest 19.6.2 release.  I've had the same installation problem on my Desktop PC, at some point I will write a build guide for it detailing my experiences with an internal RTX 2080 with a Radeon VII eGPU.

Overall I'm happy with a high performance experience for gaming in Windows, and a (usually) hot plug/unplug capable 1 cable docking experience in MacOS, I do think the Mac drivers are still beta quality though.

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I heard that some people had a problem with disconnecting their eGPU in Mojave 10.14.6 b1. I didn't update for this reason. I now see that 10.14.6 b2 is out. Is the problem fixed in this beta release?

Computer: Mid 2017 iMac 5K; CPU: 3.5 GHz 4-core i5; RAM: 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4; dGPU: Radeon Pro 575 4 GB

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n1313
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I have contacted AMD support regarding the fans issue, and here's the response I got:

"Thank you for your email.

I have checked this issue internally within AMD and got an update that the reported issue is a known issue. AMD has not certified Radeon VII retail product for use with eGPU enclosures. AMD does not intend to validate 3rd party vendors that may still decide to support this in their enclosure. Please contact them directly for details.

Thank you for contacting AMD"

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wimpzilla
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This is the kind of answer one would expect to receive from a trustworthy company! 😎

Good job Advanced Micro Device, good job!

Wonder if AMD people involved into the whole development of the card, really stand behind their product at the end?

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Ningauble77
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Posted by: n1313

I have contacted AMD support regarding the fans issue, and here's the response I got:

"Thank you for your email.

I have checked this issue internally within AMD and got an update that the reported issue is a known issue. AMD has not certified Radeon VII retail product for use with eGPU enclosures. AMD does not intend to validate 3rd party vendors that may still decide to support this in their enclosure. Please contact them directly for details.

Thank you for contacting AMD"

What a tangled mess official egpu support is on the mac platform  right now.  You have official support from Apple on almost 2 year old GPU models and a handful of recommended enclosures, with no boot camp support and no nvidia cards at all.  You have 2 all-in one egpu units with no upgradibility but the ability to drive Apple's in-store TB3 only monitors at fairly exorbitant prices.

You have enclosure vendors like Razer putting Radeon VII logos on their product pages for the Razer Core X and Razer Core X Chroma, and have Radeon VII listed as "Certified" (under windows).

You have XConnect-enabled drivers in Windows and plug-and-play driver support in MacOS 10.14.5+ for Radeon VII, but firmware/board issues with fan speeds on sleep, and now word from AMD that they aren't interested in a solution for this, or any official egpu support for Radeon VII.

Very disappointed with the tepid support and glacial pace of progress of egpu support from both Apple and AMD on what should be by far the best egpu platform on the market.  Gives me second thoughts about having shelled out the cash to AMD even though my issues have been minimal.

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Juan C. Yunis
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Indeed, very disappointed. I do believe that they want to support the card for eGPU uses, but they don't want to officially commit to it, just like you described, apple is releasing drivers for it and they keep updating the drivers for windows with XConnect support. Hopefully they change their minds and officially support the card for eGPU, it could be a great card for Apple computers.

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itsage
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There’s no excuse really. AMD and Intel are working together on Thunderbolt eGFX alongside Apple. I think AMD resources are stretched too thin and Ryzen product line has higher priority.

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n1313
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In a follow-up email I asked for a list of eGPU certified cards, and got a link to XConnect page: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/xconnect

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n1313
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Posted by: OliverB
Posted by: itsage

I personally don't recommend the Radeon VII for eGPU use. The best value and well optimized card is RX Vega 56. For Boot Camp you can use automate-eGPU EFI, apple_set_os.efi, or rEFInd.

Very precise. I had both, a Vega56 and a Radeon VII tested in eGPU environment and there is not that much difference. There are even some applications/games that run better with the Vega56.

@oliverB Do you by any chance have any benchmark results from comparing Vega 56 and Radeon VII? I am considering returning the VII and Core V2 and getting a "certified" setup instead, such as Vega 56 + Sonnet box, and I'd like to know how much benchmark points I'm going to lose for that.

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Eightarmedpet
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@n1313 why would you return your Core V2? There are no real world advantages in using a "certified" enclosure plus you will lose ethernet and USB ports.

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n1313
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@eightarmedpet primarily so that next time I have issues with my setup the guys at AMD can't wave me away by saying I bought a wrong thing. But yeah, it's not a very good reason.

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Eightarmedpet
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If that’s the excuse they are using they are not going to be helping you even if you had a “certified “ enclosure.

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Roedi78
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Hey guys!

My Radeon VII is finally under water now! 😎 

Against all odds I decided to take the AiO solution from AlphaCool ( AlphaCool Eiswolf 240 GPX-PRO Radeon VII M02 ), and I have to say, everything worked fine for me!

I installed that fine piece of hardware on my naked RVII board and managed it to fit in my Sonnet Breakaway Box, including all tubes (ok, the radiator and the fans are mounted outside 😉  ). I extracted the needed 12V (with some adaptors) to 3- and 4-pin (for pump and fans) directly out of the power supply. So I don't use the 4-pin fans connector on the Radeon VII anymore - and luckily got rid of the fan spinning bug as well! :mrgreen: 

All I have to do now is to cut the fan area out of casing lid (or leave it open forever) - and maybe change the two radiator fans to Noctua plus add a fan speed control. They actually run at full speed, but the noise level is already very acceptable and quite low compared to stock cooler fans of the Radeon VII.

Under macOS 15.10. beta 2 no issues so far, runs as stable as before.
In Win10 I'm currently running a Wattman OC preset (1900MHz GPU @ 1081 mV, 1200MHz Memory, +20% PowerLimit), that is very stable, junction temp around 70° at max load, 32° in idle / low load. Gives me an 7520 score in Superposition @ 4K Optimized (+10% to my stock settings/cooler). I'm very sure I can push it a bit more ( like you @kelvin_tan 😉 ).

So all in all - it was the best desicion (for me) to put the Radeon VII under water - and it was a really great handicraft project for me. 😎

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MacBook Pro 15" Late-2016 w/TB 16GB with RP460 4GB
automate-eGPU EFI 1.0.5 USB w/DSDT override
 macOS Catalina 10.15.1 w/Win10 (1903) BootCamp
Sonnet Breakaway Box 650 TB3 /wAMD Sapphire Radeon VII 16GB
 Alphacool Eiswolf 240 GPX-Pro AiO Radeon VII M02 Water Cooling


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@Roedi78

I love it! Great!

Can you share more about how many 12v supplies you need, and how the fans ramp up/down, based on what? 

How's the noise? (Anything is better than RVII stock I bet, lol). 

Anything you would do differently a second time around? What extra parts did you have to buy to make it happen? 

It looks great!

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Roedi78
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Hey @arden_shibley

thanks, man! 😉

The only extra parts I used are the 12V supply and distribute components, beginning with a 6-pin to 2x Molex adaptor to get the 12V out of the Enermax power supply, followed by a Molex to 3-pin adaptor (to connect the pump) and a Molex to 4-pin PWM (to connect radiator fans). in the AlphaCool set there is a 4-pin Y-cable included (to extend 4-pin PWM to both fans).

6-pin to 2x Molex
Molex to 3-pin
Molex to 4-pin PWM

The pump has to run always on 12V, so don't change that. You can't hear it at all. The two radiator fans are currently not controlled, that means they run at full speed in pull mode (mounted after the radiator, 12V/1700 rpm), but it's astonishing quiet (compared to the situation before). To have a rough comparison: It's quieter than the MacBook Pro fans under load!
I plan to switch to Noctua fans (1300 rpm max), I would expect them to run much quieter than the AlphaCool stock fans. If that's still not quiet enough for me I will integrate a manual PWM control (10...20 EUR on Amazon) between fans and 12V supply, that allows me to manually change the fan speed according to my current demands (min PWM (at nearly zero noise) in idle/low load mode (office stuff), max PWM in full load (computing, gaming, video editing, ....). The best thing is: An external controller is OS independent, so I can do this in Win10 as well as under macOS.
As far as I can tell the min PWM rpm (nearly unhearable) should suffice in most use cases, except under permanent full load.

And to answer your last question: Everything worked as I imagined/planned before, so I would do it again the same way any time. 😉

Edit: I forgot to mention that the cable/adaptor-stuff is not plug and play! You have to check on which pins the supply provides the 12V and on which pins you need them. So I swaped some pins respectively cut and re-soldered some cables (two pairs). But that's no witchcraft. 😉

And I also forgot to mention that I completely removed the eGPU enclosure stock fan and luckily I could use the fan retaining plate of the Sonnet enclosure to mount the AlphaCool radiator on it (all screws are provided with the AlphaCool set). All I had to "change" on the enclosure was to cut and bend over the metal tongue (left front) so that the tube connections fit into the housing. You can see that on one of the pictures above.

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 macOS Catalina 10.15.1 w/Win10 (1903) BootCamp
Sonnet Breakaway Box 650 TB3 /wAMD Sapphire Radeon VII 16GB
 Alphacool Eiswolf 240 GPX-Pro AiO Radeon VII M02 Water Cooling


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Roedi78
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@arden_shibley , I already did it! Replaced the two stock fans with Noctua NF-P12 redux - 1300 PWM and they are really quiet at full speed!
The manual says 92.3 m^3/h airflow @ 19.8 db/A - if you are interested in numbers.
Under my desk I can barely hear them at all! So no need for a speed control. I'm done! 😀

MacBook Pro 15" Late-2016 w/TB 16GB with RP460 4GB
automate-eGPU EFI 1.0.5 USB w/DSDT override
 macOS Catalina 10.15.1 w/Win10 (1903) BootCamp
Sonnet Breakaway Box 650 TB3 /wAMD Sapphire Radeon VII 16GB
 Alphacool Eiswolf 240 GPX-Pro AiO Radeon VII M02 Water Cooling


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screendor
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Not sure if this is new or not but I think it's been updated (at least the addition of Akitio is new I think).

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

So: do you guys think the Radon VII will in fact be supported at some point this year?

And:  how about the AMD Radeon Pro Vega II which will be available with new Mac Pro.  Will we see support for that card via eGPU?  One would think but heck, I thought the VII would be supported by now.

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Posted by: Roedi78

@arden_shibley , I already did it! Replaced the two stock fans with Noctua NF-P12 redux - 1300 PWM and they are really quiet at full speed!
The manual says 92.3 m^3/h airflow @ 19.8 db/A - if you are interested in numbers.
Under my desk I can barely hear them at all! So no need for a speed control. I'm done! 😀

Dope. Gonna consider this for my Core X and RVII, maybe finally sell the V64. Just waiting on better stability in 10.14.5 with Adobe Premiere. Thanks for all the info! Let us know if you mod it any further!

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Not sure if this is new or not but I think it's been updated (at least the addition of Akitio is new I think).

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

So: do you guys think the Radon VII will in fact be supported at some point this year?

And:  how about the AMD Radeon Pro Vega II which will be available with new Mac Pro.  Will we see support for that card via eGPU?  One would think but heck, I thought the VII would be supported by now.

No you're right, that article was updated for sure. Includes the Core X which I don't know that it did before...? Interestingly not the Core X Chroma? Ha. 

The "Updated" date at the bottom says it was updated June 28. 🙂

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


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@roedi78 That looks the business!

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Posted by: Arden Shibley
Posted by: Roedi78

@arden_shibley , I already did it! Replaced the two stock fans with Noctua NF-P12 redux - 1300 PWM and they are really quiet at full speed!
The manual says 92.3 m^3/h airflow @ 19.8 db/A - if you are interested in numbers.
Under my desk I can barely hear them at all! So no need for a speed control. I'm done! 😀

Dope. Gonna consider this for my Core X and RVII, maybe finally sell the V64. Just waiting on better stability in 10.14.5 with Adobe Premiere. Thanks for all the info! Let us know if you mod it any further!

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Not sure if this is new or not but I think it's been updated (at least the addition of Akitio is new I think).

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

So: do you guys think the Radon VII will in fact be supported at some point this year?

And:  how about the AMD Radeon Pro Vega II which will be available with new Mac Pro.  Will we see support for that card via eGPU?  One would think but heck, I thought the VII would be supported by now.

No you're right, that article was updated for sure. Includes the Core X which I don't know that it did before...? Interestingly not the Core X Chroma? Ha. 

The "Updated" date at the bottom says it was updated June 28. 🙂

I'm guessing the Chroma and Core v2 aren't listed because the ethernet ports aren't fully operational in MacOS.  I am suspicious the Radeon VII won't show up on the recommended list unless AMD fixes the fan issue somehow.  Apple wants these devices to "just work".

2018 13 Macbook Pro + Core v2 + Radeon VII MacOS 10.14.6
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Posted by: Ningauble77

I'm guessing the Chroma and Core v2 aren't listed because the ethernet ports aren't fully operational in MacOS.  I am suspicious the Radeon VII won't show up on the recommended list unless AMD fixes the fan issue somehow.  Apple wants these devices to "just work".

Prudent observation.

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Posted by: screendor

Not sure if this is new or not but I think it's been updated (at least the addition of Akitio is new I think).

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

So: do you guys think the Radon VII will in fact be supported at some point this year?

And:  how about the AMD Radeon Pro Vega II which will be available with new Mac Pro.  Will we see support for that card via eGPU?  One would think but heck, I thought the VII would be supported by now.

They should only list a card in the support article once a Mac ships with the same Device ID. If an iMac Pro ships with the Radeon VII the article will be updated.

There is this sleep bug issue that might prevent Apple from listing it in the article. So even though you have official driver support in macOS you might not see it listed in the eGPU Support Article because otherwise customers will complain to Apple about the sleep bug. It's AMD's problem to fix, not Apple's. They just need to deliver a firmware update.

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Posted by: Roedi78

@arden_shibley , I already did it! Replaced the two stock fans with Noctua NF-P12 redux - 1300 PWM and they are really quiet at full speed!
The manual says 92.3 m^3/h airflow @ 19.8 db/A - if you are interested in numbers.
Under my desk I can barely hear them at all! So no need for a speed control. I'm done! 😀

Dope. Gonna consider this for my Core X and RVII, maybe finally sell the V64. Just waiting on better stability in 10.14.5 with Adobe Premiere. Thanks for all the info! Let us know if you mod it any further!

Posted by: screendor

Not sure if this is new or not but I think it's been updated (at least the addition of Akitio is new I think).

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

So: do you guys think the Radon VII will in fact be supported at some point this year?

And: how about the AMD Radeon Pro Vega II which will be available with new Mac Pro. Will we see support for that card via eGPU? One would think but heck, I thought the VII would be supported by now.

No you're right, that article was updated for sure. Includes the Core X which I don't know that it did before...? Interestingly not the Core X Chroma? Ha.

The "Updated" date at the bottom says it was updated June 28. 🙂

I'm guessing the Chroma and Core v2 aren't listed because the ethernet ports aren't fully operational in MacOS. I am suspicious the Radeon VII won't show up on the recommended list unless AMD fixes the fan issue somehow. Apple wants these devices to "just work".

Correct. Apple will only list it in a Support Article if a device is entirely plug and play with no issues outside their control.

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Well, given that no current macs ship with Radeon VII, the only two possible options would be an as yet updated iMacPro (although is there a use case for the VII here or would they move to the new Pro Vega 2, which is my guess) or the new MacPro, which doesn't look it will.  

So is the VII doomed to be an orphan here?  

And do you folks think the new Pro Vega 2 will be supported for eGPU?  I would think so, but I most definitely no expert.  Just a hopeful guesser...

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Posted by: screendor

Well, given that no current macs ship with Radeon VII, the only two possible options would be an as yet updated iMacPro (although is there a use case for the VII here or would they move to the new Pro Vega 2, which is my guess) or the new MacPro, which doesn't look it will.  

So is the VII doomed to be an orphan here?  

And do you folks think the new Pro Vega 2 will be supported for eGPU?  I would think so, but I most definitely no expert.  Just a hopeful guesser...

It's not 'doomed' to be an orphan. The drivers aren't going to disappear (they are the same Vega 20 drivers used by the Pro Vega). Just unplug it when you put your Mac to sleep.

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Just unplug it when you put your Mac to sleep.

You must not be using an eGPU on Mac if you think that makes sense, haha

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ok, it seems like nobody was able to give me a report on how Mojave 10.14.6 b2 handled eGPU use. Now that public beta 3 of Mojave.6 is out, has the on/off issue that someone reported here been fixed?

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Dope. [...] Thanks for all the info! Let us know if you mod it any further!

@arden_shibleyLast (final) update: Added some blue lights inside and closed the case. 😎

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MacBook Pro 15" Late-2016 w/TB 16GB with RP460 4GB
automate-eGPU EFI 1.0.5 USB w/DSDT override
 macOS Catalina 10.15.1 w/Win10 (1903) BootCamp
Sonnet Breakaway Box 650 TB3 /wAMD Sapphire Radeon VII 16GB
 Alphacool Eiswolf 240 GPX-Pro AiO Radeon VII M02 Water Cooling


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zipcode
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i received a kext memory leak error after 24 hours in mac verbose safe boot, 

i solved by terminal in recovery mode and loading = "csrutil enable --without kext"

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


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Quick update on my Radeon VII setup.  Windows finally offered the 1903 build to me yesterday.  I disconnected all peripherals and let it install in place.  After the install finished I hotplugged my egpu w/ peripherals with no other changes, no DDU.  External display lit up, and had Radeon VII and Iris Plus happily cohabitating... at least that first time.  I tried to reproduce this behavior after several reboots by hotplugging after logging in at the desktop and unfortunately either the egpu was not detected at all (no core/radeon/mouse+keyboard etc in the device manager and my wifi stops working) or a corrupted BSOD comes up on the internal display.

However, I have been able to get the setup working in two ways.  Booting with egpu attached works fine, exactly as before.  Internal display is stuck on windows logo and iris plus is disabled.

Also, and this is new: I was able to hotplug at the windows logo and get the egpu detected.  This leaves me with a functional igpu/internal display with no other modifications.  The only problem is that I get an error on login that a usb device connected to the machine is not working, and there is an unidentified usb device in the device manager.  I believe this is the Core V2's USB interface for controlling the lighting, since Synapse does not detect it.  I can disable and reenable the device, then quit and re-run Synapse 2 and get it working again.  Looks like I may be running out of memory resources, and I could try disabling the camera or wifi card to see if this helps at all.  Additionally, similar to my experience in MacOS, when put to sleep, my fans spin down properly (although in both cases the time it takes to sleep and to wake are much longer than I am accustomed to).

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2018 13 Macbook Pro + Core v2 + Radeon VII MacOS 10.14.6
Core X Chroma + RTX 2080 Windows 10 1903


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Eightarmedpet
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@ningauble77 sounds like there are improvements in the latest Windows, itsage noticed some with his Mac mini but my 2017 13inch Macbook had nothing but trouble with the instal (BSOD until instal corrupted) so I had to revert back to 1604 > 1809 instal

2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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@ningauble77 Good to hear AMD eGPU hot-plug is possible on the 2018 13″ MacBook Pro too. Like @eightarmedpet mentioned I noticed this new behavior in the 2018 Mac mini and 2016 15″ MacBook Pro. Sadly there’s some serious issue with the 2017 13″ MacBook Pro. I tried W10 1903 again on it yesterday and Radeon drivers corrupted my Windows and causes it to be stuck in boot loop.

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@ningauble77
I had the same sensation after upgrading to 1903. I could hot-plug an AMD eGPU. Huh?

True, but it only worked only once.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680


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