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itsage
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Adrenalin 19.2.1 drivers don't have XConnect support for Radeon VII yet.

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Kelvin Tan
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@itsage you are a godsend, thanks for all the info so that we won't have to waste money on something that doesn't work for egpus yet.

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Posted by: OliverB

Are they any know if it has those power peaks over 300 Watt like the Vega64? Can normal enclosures wield it?

EDIT: wtf.. tests say GTX1080Ti is better in most games?!

Don’t know what tests have you seen but i’ve read many reviews already. The card is impressive. Beats 2080 in some games, perform very well in computing. Consider also that not everything is optimized yet and the amount of RAM, very future proof. It is a vast improvements over Vega 64. Better macOS driver for sure since Nvidia are terrible.
check AnandTech review, you will see Radeon VII will beat RTX 2080 in many cases


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Posted by: Kelvin Tan

@itsage you are a godsend, thanks for all the info so that we won't have to waste money on something that doesn't work for egpus yet.

Yes @itsage you saved us! I ended up getting a Gigabyte Vega 64 for $300 for the time being, right now the resellers in my country are marking up at least $200 more off retail price!

Thanks again

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... so, just got info that my Radeon VII is sipped. will be here Saturday or Monday... lets see if its at least running smoothly in my Windows 10 Bootcamp ony my 2010 MacPro 😉

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Posted by: ikir
Posted by: OliverB

Are they any know if it has those power peaks over 300 Watt like the Vega64? Can normal enclosures wield it?

EDIT: wtf.. tests say GTX1080Ti is better in most games?!

Don’t know what tests have you seen but i’ve read many reviews already. The card is impressive. Beats 2080 in some games, perform very well in computing. Consider also that not everything is optimized yet and the amount of RAM, very future proof. It is a vast improvements over Vega 64. Better macOS driver for sure since Nvidia are terrible.
check AnandTech review, you will see Radeon VII will beat RTX 2080 in many cases

The general consensus on Reddit is it's not good.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ao05xo/radeon_vii_reviews_megathread/

It's performing behind 2080 for games, but compute tasks it's great.

Thegreatest weakness for the Radeon vii, is the noise levels.That's just going to be amplified in a small egpu enclosure. And a lot of people won't tolerate noise next to their quiet laptops.

Even for compute tasks, the problem is very little applications really make full use even of the Vega 64's current compute facilities.

All these is moot though, for as long as Apple doesn't approve NVIDIA drivers, our only alternative for a high performance GPU that can challenge NVIDIA offerings is the Radeon vii.

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Posted by: ikir
Posted by: OliverB

Are they any know if it has those power peaks over 300 Watt like the Vega64? Can normal enclosures wield it?

EDIT: wtf.. tests say GTX1080Ti is better in most games?!

Don’t know what tests have you seen but i’ve read many reviews already. The card is impressive. Beats 2080 in some games, perform very well in computing. Consider also that not everything is optimized yet and the amount of RAM, very future proof. It is a vast improvements over Vega 64. Better macOS driver for sure since Nvidia are terrible.
check AnandTech review, you will see Radeon VII will beat RTX 2080 in many cases

I saw a set of 10 games and the GTX1080Ti beat the crap out of Radeon VII in 9 out of 10 games.

EDIT: Weren't you the user who said that GTX780Ti wasn't natively supported under MacOSX?

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Posted by: OliverB

Are they any know if it has those power peaks over 300 Watt like the Vega64? Can normal enclosures wield it?

EDIT: wtf.. tests say GTX1080Ti is better in most games?!

Don’t know what tests have you seen but i’ve read many reviews already. The card is impressive. Beats 2080 in some games, perform very well in computing. Consider also that not everything is optimized yet and the amount of RAM, very future proof. It is a vast improvements over Vega 64. Better macOS driver for sure since Nvidia are terrible.
check AnandTech review, you will see Radeon VII will beat RTX 2080 in many cases

The general consensus on Reddit is it's not good.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ao05xo/radeon_vii_reviews_megathread/

It's performing behind 2080 for games, but compute tasks it's great.

And the 2080 is performing behind the GTX1080Ti for most games. So as this is an ordered metric this means in games:
Radeon VII << GTX1080Ti

This is really disappointing, if you think of 16GB HBMs and 7nm.

About the computing tasks? Nobody cares! If people cared they would have noticed that newest nVidia drivers have an issue with OpenCL. Nobody notices, because nobody cares. (see OpenCL Issues with newest nVidia drivers)

Posted by: Kelvin Tan

Thegreatest weakness for the Radeon vii, is the noise levels.That's just going to be amplified in a small egpu enclosure. And a lot of people won't tolerate noise next to their quiet laptops.

My EVGA GTX1080Ti Sc2 is very silent and needs 240Watt, easily powered by any eGPU enclosure. So, yes, the RadeonVII is a very big disappointment.

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@oliverb last I checked the 780 Ti isn’t supported natively on macOS (it’s true). It works well. See below.

Agree with you. It is seriously unreal that a 16nm card from 2 years ago performs so admirably vs. the Radeon 7 in games. Assuming good driver updates for the AMD, we would still be competing head to head, while the 1080 ti would consume far less power (and it’s 16 f’in nm vs 7nm). Compute is where AMD excels - it’s good for work stuff, not gaming. Per GamersNexus in their early tests, on average the Radeon 7 was 2% slower than the 1080 ti in games.

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Posted by: mac_editor

@oliverb last I checked the 780 Ti isn’t supported natively on macOS (it’s true). 

As far as my 780 Ti is concerned, it is natively supported.

Screenshot 2019 02 06 at 19.02.46

I double-checked it with High Sierra and no nVidia web drivers: It works!

The claims done in this Post with wrong info about GTX780Ti are plainly wrong.

EDIT: To be absolutely sure, I even opened this GTX780Ti and verified the chip: It's nVidia Kepler GK110-425-B1, so it's legit: GeForce GTX 780 Ti is natively supported by MacOSX

GTX780TiOpen

 

The worst thing is, that I actually believed what was said here, that the GTX780Ti (and so the Titan) wasn't support. This is a complete misinformation, because both cards are a real alternative for Mojave.

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@oliverb I thought the same reading off here. Thanks for sharing that the 780 Ti works natively! This may have changed in High Sierra vs. the post you linked, which was for Sierra, but still good to know.

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