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OliverB
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Posted by: craftsman

I'll wait for the fan fix and for Apple to list it in their eGPU support article. Then purchase.

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What is your status? Radeon VII or Vega 64? Every though about using a 2019 Mac Pro? It should be perfect for a professional like you.

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craftsman
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Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

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crhendo
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Posted by: craftsman

Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

Great minds think alike. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw those beautiful new modules. Now, if we could just get the Mac Pro team to lower their standards and talk to the "consumer" team, we might have half a chance.

In the meantime, can we please solve the problem with spinning fans, egpu's and Radeon VII's?

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Eightarmedpet
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Posted by: craftsman

Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

That would be a dream... and an insta buy.
Sadly I fear it will never happen.

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GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

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Defoler
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Posted by: craftsman

Radeon VII for home, the Mac Pro for the studio. Would have been good if there was an eGPU chassis with support for the new modules. Then I could take a module home to use with the MacBook Pro and take it back to work to use with the Mac Pro. No cables, everything from the slot.

I would take it to a different path. 
Have the macbook pro "slot" into the mac pro. This in turn will "turn" the macbook pro, with software and everything, to run under the performance of a stronger CPU with the included stronger GPUs. 
So you get your same environment, same system, just stronger and faster. When you are done, just pull out the macbook pro, and you can work on the road or at home and plug in eGPU and you can still work at home, just with less powerful CPU but stronger GPU than you do on the road.

One system with different encasing for different performance levels.

You can add to that an "automatic backup" into the office encasing, so that can run independently without the macbook pro slot in (if for example you forgot it at home, it got stolen, in repair etc), and just when you do slot it in, it syncs both systems together to keep them coherent.

That way, you don't have to mess around with different systems, different computers, having to sync between them through external drives and copy data constantly, etc.

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craftsman
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Hi @defoler nice to meet you.

That idea has been possible for a long time. A PowerBook could be attached to a Power Mac and booted in Target Mode. Basically the PowerBook's drive would boot on the Power Mac hardware. That's the beauty of how portable macOS is, as long as the OS is compatible with the hardware it boots on.

Slotting a laptop into a desktop though raises inevitable problems with scratches, connection faults, wear and tear, etc. 

We are better off just sharing data with removable drives, across local networks or the cloud. There's fewer things that can go wrong hardware-wise.

The Power Color Radeon VII arrived today. I'll post results tonight.

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craftsman
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Solid Radeon VII results. 50K in Luxmark too.

I have the sleep fan bug. I can live with detaching until there is an update.

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An IOThunderboltLocalNode is a driver that receives special types of Thunderbolt packets (not PCIe or DisplayPort) from another computer. In macOS there is Target Display Mode Sink (receives video from another computer) and Thunderbolt IP Service (receives networking packets from another computer). The other computer runs a service to use the node.

An IOThunderboltXDomainService sends special types of Thunderbolt packets (not PCIe or DisplayPort) to another computer. In macOS there is Target Display Mode Source (sends video to another computer), Thunderbolt IP Transmitter (transmits networking packets to another computer), and Target Disk Mode (sends target disk mode commands to another computer). The other computer runs a node to receive commands or data from a service.

I know there is a Target Disk Mode node at EFI time (that's the only time you can enable Target Disk Mode node because there's no macOS node for Target Disk Mode). Does a Target Disk Mode service exist at EFI boot time? A Target Disk Mode service in EFI is necessary for the Mac to boot from a Target disk Mode node.

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jmyAOC
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Hi craftsman
i was hesitating because of the fan "problem", but you seem to say its not so important, fine.

So this thing appart, my main choice is now to follow Apple, AMD and Adobe recommandations and choose a PRO series WX 8200 or 9100... or jump into the "unknown" and choose the VII.
I want to use it with Premiere and VR stictching softwares like Mistika in order to boost my 2016 i7 15" MacBookPro.

Thanks.

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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crhendo
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I always worry when a thread like this goes quiet that we are all stuck with a piece of expensive hardware for which no fix to a very obvious problem can be found. As most of you know, I have my Radeon VII inside a Razer Core X attached to a Mac Mini 2018. This configuration gives a different result to most other Mac connections in that the spinning fan happily starts and stops when the system starts and stops without any problem. It's only when I enter sleep that the fans start spinning continously at somewhere between 60-70%. It used to spin at 100% when entering sleep but a Beta release managed to change it in some way. As an Engineer by trade, these little differences in behaviour across different egpu connections tells me that a fix is certainly possible. The trouble is that our egpu community is still not large enough to cause AMD (or Apple) a problem and therefore nobody is inetersted in fixing the fault.

Can I suggest that we all take turns in keeping this thread alive?

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