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Onion
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Hey, all. I recently got my eGPU. I set up the enclosure (Razer Core X), put my RX 590 8GB in and plugged it into MacOS. Yay! It worked! I was happy, so happy. I went on Minecraft, enabled shaders and got a solid 60 FPS. Now, to do the windows Bootcamp bit. Luckily, I got it working relatively easily. I didn't bother using the custom EFI, I just only used my external display and left the windows logo on my internal. I got into it, went on device manager, found my GPU and updated the drivers. They're all up to date now. I installed some games (Rust, Eco, Garry's Mod and GTA V). This is where things go wrong. I plug in my External SSD and install those games onto it. When I load up Eco, it works really well and I get great FPS. Then I try Rust, which crashes during loading. Apparently, my CPU isn't good enough for that but when I tried rust on MacOS with the eGPU it worked at 40FPS (I got it on windows hoping I'd get a higher framerate). I brushed that past me, hoping it was just the game and downloaded Garry's Mod. That worked too. But both Rust and GTA V do not work, there was also a point where Eco wasn't working but I reinstalled windows. Now, GTA V would boot up and I'd load into story mode; after about 3-5 mins of game time, driving fast in the car loading in new chunks; the game would always crash. I tried multiple fixes, none of which worked. I think it is something to do with DirectX or something like that. Rust crashed while loading large monuments. Now, alot of stuff said to check to to video graphics drivers. Although device manager said I was up to date, I thought I'd go and install AMD Control Centre (the new one) for my video card. Now, I installed it and ran GTA V. Boom! It crashed while loading into story mode. I tried again and again. Kept doing it! Gmod started crashing as well, that was working before. And ECO was crashing! So I uninstalled AMD Control Centre, restarted and what do ya know? They stopeed crashing. But GTA still crashed like it did at first. So, what is going on here? Both Rust and GTA are pointlessly crashing. I am 99% sure it ain't the games; it is something to do with the system. 

 

Hope you can help me,

ask if you need anymore info,

 

Many Thanks,         sao_username.

To do: Create my signature with system and expected eGPU configuration information to give context to my posts. I have no builds.

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jefniro
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Same behavior with COD:MW ...a think AMD drivers are not fully optimized for Windows (Bootcamp) and eGPU...

2019 14" HP EliteBook 840 G6 [8th,4C,U] + RX 5700 XT @ 16Gbps-TB3 (AKiTiO Node) + Win10 2004 [build link]  

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Nutype
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Having similar problems here as well with Monster Hunter World and WWZ. I'm running an RX570 eGPU with 13" MBP I5-5257U

Not sure whats causing it, but I assumed it had to do with my RAM being only 8GB.(But other people run fine with 8GB, without eGPU/Bootcamp)

If I restart my computer and don't open ANYTHING other than the game, there is a good chance it wont crash for maybe a few hours.

If However I open Chrome, or pretty much anything else, it will often crash loading into a game or just a few minutes in. This is even after I close and kill those processes, its very strange.

 

*Also want to add that I'm running the games off external SSD as well. Not sure if that could be the cause.

2020 13" HP Spectre X360 [10th,4C,G] + RX 570 @ 32Gbps-TB3 (PowerColor Mini Pro) + Win10 [build link]  

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TripleDouble
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I had the same issue with GTA V & WWZ crashing. I have a windows 10 ver. 1903 (18362.30) running on Boot Camp with mid-2017 13" MBP running on AMD RX570 eGPU with razer core X. Games running on a external 1TB HDD as well. GTA V just crash after 3-4 min of gameplay. For WWZ, it only works if i overclocked my RX570 if not it keeps crashing.

I dont think is the game issue. I've tried every solutions i find online but it doesn't fix the issue. I suspect is either the AMD driver is still not compatible with Bootcamp or these games just cant be run on external HDD running bootcamp. 

Im gonna try switching to Nvidia driver one day to test if my theory is right.

Mid-2017 13" MBP non-touch bar
2.3 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5
8GB RAM & 120GB internal SSD
Games running on 240GB external SSD
Razer Core X w/ ASUS Nvidia GTX 1050 TI OC 4GB
Nvidia Driver ver. 436.15
macOS Catalina 10.15.4
Boot Camp Windows 10 ver.1909


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tsakal
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@tripledouble, With my setup using external ssd bootcamp, I can play project cars2, f1, horizon4, tombraider, odyssey fine. The only issue I have is Forza motorsports 7 which crashes after a few minutes. 

 

A) 2020 MacBook Pro, i7-1068NG7, 32GB RAM, 1TB, EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, Samsung 49 1440p UltraWide C49RG
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7, Internal Bootcamp Windows 10 2004 pci.sys swap.
B) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

C) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

D) 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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Jimmy
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open amd radeon control panel, disable enhance synch

MBP 2018 13" i5 512GB Touch Bar (MR9R2)
Aorus Gaming Box RX580
Mantiz Venus, Red Devil 5700XT

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + Win10 1903 [build link]  


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TripleDouble
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@tsakal, i'm glad to hear that u are able to run quite a number of games on a external SSD. I went on to google and it seems like my old 5200rpm external hdd are only meant for backing up files and definitely not suitable to run open world games like GTA which may be the reason for the freeze and crash issue. So i guess i may be changing to a SSD instead and see whether will it solve the problem.

@badtz, I did that but is still not working.

 

Mid-2017 13" MBP non-touch bar
2.3 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5
8GB RAM & 120GB internal SSD
Games running on 240GB external SSD
Razer Core X w/ ASUS Nvidia GTX 1050 TI OC 4GB
Nvidia Driver ver. 436.15
macOS Catalina 10.15.4
Boot Camp Windows 10 ver.1909


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Jimmy
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@tripledouble

If i remember correctly, someone mentioned about amd driver with GTA V. Which version are you using? Have you tried installing different version of AMD driver?

MBP 2018 13" i5 512GB Touch Bar (MR9R2)
Aorus Gaming Box RX580
Mantiz Venus, Red Devil 5700XT

 
2018 13" MacBook Pro [8th,4C,U] + RX 5700 XT @ 32Gbps-TB3 (Mantiz Venus) + Win10 1903 [build link]  


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tsakal
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@tripledouble, I am using the Samsung t5 and it has been very reliable and it is quite cheap now.

 

A) 2020 MacBook Pro, i7-1068NG7, 32GB RAM, 1TB, EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, Samsung 49 1440p UltraWide C49RG
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7, Internal Bootcamp Windows 10 2004 pci.sys swap.
B) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

C) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

D) 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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tsakal
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@tripledouble, Also what I found out is that switching off steam overlay if you are playing steam games has helped with some games not crashing . I currently have it on only with projectcars2. In addition I have found that f1 2019 is stable when run with dx11 but not very stable with dx12 in both cases steam overlay is off. 

 

A) 2020 MacBook Pro, i7-1068NG7, 32GB RAM, 1TB, EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, Samsung 49 1440p UltraWide C49RG
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7, Internal Bootcamp Windows 10 2004 pci.sys swap.
B) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Razer Core X, Nitro+ RX5700 xt 8Gb, LG 32UK550
Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1903 V1 .295

C) 2.7 GHz I7 4 Cores, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2018 TB3 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb, Mac OS Catalina 10.15.2, Ext SSD Windows 10 1803

D) 3.1 GHz I7, 16Gb, 1TB MBP 13 2015 TB2 , EGPU Gigabyte Gaming Box RX580 8Gb


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