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JDug
 JDug
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Hi All,

I hope this is the best place for this topic, if not an admin is welcome to move it.  I am asking here because my intended use is with my Thunderbolt mac setup.  I am looking to add a new 4K monitor to my setup.  Currently I have a 1080p 24in Dell that I use as my external display for my MBP and Mac Mini.  My 2017 13in MBP arrives today and I have been thinking of upgrading to a 4K monitor.  I have the Apple Dev Kit as my egpu so sometimes I would use a single display and sometimes I would add my current 1080p in the mix with the 4K and run as dual monitors. 

In my research, it seems that usb-c displays are few and far between and that maybe I should wait a few months for more to come out?  I figure it might be the best option since my new MBP will have all usb-c and TB3 ports.  But, who knows how long I would have to wait so I am also open to suggestions from people who have a 4K screen they love that they find compatible with their Macbook pro.  The majority of the work I will be doing is photo editing and some video editing so while the resolution of the monitor matters so do the other factors such as range of color etc.

Thanks in advance!

 

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drax392
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Don't waste your time looking for a 4K monitor with USB-C, just pick up this adapter and get the best display with an HDMI input that's within your budget.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XNS7W63?ref=emc_b_5_t

I don't have any input on a 4K display, I went with a 3440x1440 Dell instead of 4K when I upgraded recently.

Intel Skull Canyon NUC (NUC6i7KYK) - 1TB Samsung 960 EVO NMVe SSD, 32GB memory
Apple Mac Pro 2013 - Deca-core 3GHz Xeon, 32GB memory, 1TB Apple SSD, D700 dGPU, eGPU shared with above NUC.
AKiTiO Node - EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC2 Gaming, Corsair SF600 PSU, Cougar Vortex HDB 120 case fan
2013 17" ASUS G750JS (TB2) + [email protected] (AKiTiO Node via Apple TB3->TB adapter) + Win10


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Yukikaze
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Get a regular DisplayPort input monitor. Do NOT get a USB-C/Thunderbolt3 display. These are gimmicky critters that limit what you can use the display with. You can always use an adapter from USB-C/TB3 to a DisplayPort, but the opposite direction is tricky at best or impossible at worst. Additionally, if you ever use an eGPU, you will want the display connected to the video card, and video cards with USB-C or TB3 outputs are very, very rare (there's a few announced, but have not been seen in the wild).

As for monitors, take a look at the Asus PA329Q and the BenQ PD3200U.

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Give your Node Pro a second Thunderbolt3 controller for reliable peripherals by re-using a TB3 dock (~50$).

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drax392
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Posted by: Yukikaze

Get a regular DisplayPort input monitor. Do NOT get a USB-C/Thunderbolt3 display. These are gimmicky critters that limit what you can use the display with. You can always use an adapter from USB-C/TB3 to a DisplayPort, but the opposite direction is tricky at best or impossible at worst. Additionally, if you ever use an eGPU, you will want the display connected to the video card, and video cards with USB-C or TB3 outputs are very, very rare (there's a few announced, but have not been seen in the wild).

As for monitors, take a look at the Asus PA329Q and the BenQ PD3200U.

An important note with the USB-C -> miniDP/HDMI/etc adapters, pay close attention to the ones that say they support 4K.  Many of them only do 4K @ 30Hz, you want to make sure they do 4K @ 60Hz minimum.  I made sure the one I linked above did 4K @ 60Hz.  Apple's own USB-C -> USB-C/HDMI/USB adapter only does 4K @ 30Hz.

Intel Skull Canyon NUC (NUC6i7KYK) - 1TB Samsung 960 EVO NMVe SSD, 32GB memory
Apple Mac Pro 2013 - Deca-core 3GHz Xeon, 32GB memory, 1TB Apple SSD, D700 dGPU, eGPU shared with above NUC.
AKiTiO Node - EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC2 Gaming, Corsair SF600 PSU, Cougar Vortex HDB 120 case fan
2013 17" ASUS G750JS (TB2) + [email protected] (AKiTiO Node via Apple TB3->TB adapter) + Win10


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Yukikaze
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Yup. And the 4K60hz adapters are not cheap. You will find cheap ones on ebay that claim to do it, and many of them will not work. Be careful with what you buy. In this case you very much get what you pay for.

Want to output [email protected] out of an old system on the cheap? Read here.
Give your Node Pro a second Thunderbolt3 controller for reliable peripherals by re-using a TB3 dock (~50$).

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rushvora
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I got the LG 27UD68, loving it, it also has HDMI 2.0. Works great with MBP and PS4 Pro.

Plugable's USB-C to displayport cable does 4K60, costs $20.

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torncanvas
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I just picked up an LG 27UD69P, which is a minor update from rushvora's 27UD68 (a very popular model and for good reason) with better 1300:1 contrast and maybe one other small update. It's great, although as a game developer my color needs are not that strict.

This morning my backordered LG 27MU88 arrived, which is the 3-year warranty pre-calibrated version of the 27UD88. Compared to the 68/69, the 88 series has better color coverage and accuracy, 350 nits instead of 300, and a couple USB ports including USB-C.

Both of these monitors are IPS, anti-glare matte, fake 10bit (8bit + FRC), have 5ms response time and FreeSync support, no backlight bleed, pretty minor vignetting, and have an attractive design with thin bezels. The 69P has HDCP 2.2, can't remember what the 88 has. I think both of them have speakers?

I paid about $500 and $600 USD for them respectively, all inclusive.

Both of them seem to work just fine with my Apple dev kit eGPU, although I've only used them individually (one is meant for home office, the other studio office).

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JDug
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Thank you everyone for your responses!  For my current space I think 32" is going to be too large.  So 27in is probably best.  I have been looking at the LG's you have recommended as well as the dell 27in 4K.   As for the LG's I would be leaning more towards the LG 27MU88 for photo and video work.  Torncanvas, do you know if the MU88 puts out enough power to charge the new 2017 13in MBP?  Does anyone have the Dell P2715Q and is willing to share thoughts on it?

A few follow ups to my original question.  I have read several places that 27" is not an ideal size for 4K monitors (particularly for a mac) because scaling would be required for coverage.  Is anyone who uses a 27" 4K monitor willing to chime in on this and offer comment.  As stated above, while 32" would be great, I just do not have the space for that right now.

Also, I do already have a USB-C to DP cable that does [email protected] so I am set there!

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torncanvas
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I didn't even consider Power Delivery for the 27MU88, it turns out it delivers 60W. Nice!

Oh I forgot to mention a couple things. Dell has some new 4k monitors coming out in July, including a 27" with slim bezels. The Samsung 28" 590D model or whatever it's called has narrow viewing angles. Asus and Acer seem to have decent options, although based on reviews I read the consistency of panels is maybe not as high as other brands.

27" at 4K does require scaling to match other Apple retina displays, yes. I actually prefer a custom scale anyway, so sorry I missed your question earlier because it didn't sink in.

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JDug
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Yes power delivery is somewhat important to help eliminate more cables coming out of the MBP

I saw that Dell has some stuff coming out, but who knows when it will ever get release and how it will really perform, it is an unknown.  At this point I am really looking for just a bump in resolution and accurate colors.  The majority of photo and video editing I do comes from my Sony a7rii which has a resolution of 7952 x 5304 (42mpix) so the added resolution of a 4k screen would be nice, I just was not sure how the scaling would effect things.

The 27MU88 looks pretty good feature wise, it just may be lacking a bit of color depth compared to some of the more "professional" imaging monitors.  But, at the same time I feel like in the next 1-2 years we are going to see an abundance of 4K, 5K, and 8K screens coming out so I think this is more of a hold over for me. 

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torncanvas
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Using the Display pane in System Prefs, the scaling adjusts the DPI of the interface, but otherwise the actual resolution is always native res. I suppose some app could configure itself like a browser and artificially scale it's content based on that setting, but at least the content apps I use, including Photoshop, don't do that.

I don't have SwitchResX installed on this laptop so I havent tried a true custom resolution, I couldn't say what other actual resolutions these two LG monitors support in High Sierra, if any.

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breda
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Dell's Ultrasharp monitors are very good for the price

Look at here http://thedigitalcamera.net/best-monitor-for-photo-editing-and-photography/

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steven 11
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I'm very happy with my Samsung S32D850T. Most of the time I run it at 1440p, and it's nice to have the extra resolution on demand.

 

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