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@itsage, good to hear! Thank you! I imagine that you are usging with Windows 11....

 

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@jefniro, Yes, it came with Windows 11 preinstalled and there were a lot of updates when I powered it on. This is my very first Surface product. I'm enjoying the keyboard and trackpad. The trackpad in particular is really similar to Mac laptop trackpad. This has always been a competitive advantage for Apple imo. The key travel is good with key caps feel sturdy.

I'm not sure how I feel about the display assembly yet. The main hinges are strong and can hold the display in all angles. The secondary hinges to pivot the screen about is too light for the weight of the magnets (at the bottom half edges) and the stiffness of main hinges. You would need both hands to operate this screen. Maybe this is unfair but I use the iMac G4 hinge/display arm mechanism as the standard.

The bottom case is an interesting design. I personally don't like either the look or feel of that many sharp edges on a product that I would handle many times a day. Microsoft's decision to conceal the screws using adhesive is also questionable. Exposed screws look great when placed symmetrically. I get they needed a space to store the Surface Pen and provide wireless charging, but this design is not a great solution imo.

Servicing this laptop takes more care than most laptops too. Microsoft will likely sell a service kit which includes new adhesives. I reused mine after opening the bottom case for photos and NVMe drive upgrade. The C-shaped strip doesn't retain the same hold and it's unevenly attached at different spots. I managed to scratch one section too when I was using a small putty knife to remove the adhesive strip.

Biggest criticism from me is the weight distribution. I tend to grab a laptop by the palm rest area. My reference laptop is LG Gram 17; it's remarkably even weighted across the footprint and makes handling the laptop a joy. Not so much with the Surface Laptop Studio. The bulk is towards the display hinge area so handling this laptop one hand at the palm rest area makes it seem heavy.

 

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@itsage, I think most of your criticisms come from the product trying to 'be' multiple things at once (which Surface has always aimed for). Be it iPads trying to be computers or SLS being a tablet, these configurations just don't click for me. I'm sure there are valuable use cases for them but in my eyes these configurations are just a bad computer (iPad) and a bad/hardly portable tablet (SLS) respectively. It's really just a 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' scenario.

 

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@itsage, @mac_editor, I think it depends of what kind of use you want to do with it. I feel the Laptop Studio as a "portable workstation" that you can use for creations. If you want mobility your priority must be the weight and the size, I don't think that SLS is the perfect choice for mobility. It's a workstation that you can eventually bring with you sometime and move with it inside the same building/apartment, not for holidays, not for the train usage, etc... Even about the screen position, I don't think you will change always his position. It depends from what kind of application you use but I don't see many applications that needs it like a tablet, maybe Photoshop, Premiere, hand drawing... I think it's a very good portable workstation concept! The presence of Thunderbolt 4 technology confirm my thoughts. 

 

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Posted by: @itsage

two Thunderbolt 4 ports.

This one shows one DMA controller (aka NHI? or USB4? need to see the class code on that) and two Thunderbolt root ports.

Other Tiger Lake CPUs will have two controllers and four root ports.

In either case, there's only one USB controller for the Thunderbolt ports (whether it's two or four ports).

@itsage, did you ever try repeating the Ice Lake benchmark tests with a Tiger Lake laptop? macOS doesn't run on Tiger Lake easily or at all, so the tests will have to be done in Windows. ATTO Disk Benchmark in macOS can do multiple disks at once without having to make a RAID 0, but I don't think the Windows version has that feature.

 

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@joevt, I have not repeated the same test on a Tiger Lake system. What I did recently on the Surface Laptop Studio was to run eGPU and NVMe benchmarks concurrently through the two Thunderbolt 4 ports [link]. The numbers look good, but I don't know if this test is as accurate.

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@itsage, I think you need a RAID 0 to be sure unless you have a benchmark like ATTO Disk Benchmark.app for macOS that supports doing multiple disks at the same time. In any case, it probably has to be a single benchmark to make sure the measurements of all the ports are being done at the same time.

 

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@itsage, I'd love to know if those two TB4 ports can handle 2 eGPUs connected simultaneously. If Windows and the SLS can support this, it would be a practical way to connect up to 6 5k monitors (rather than buying an overpriced single W6800 card, which appears to be the only GPU that supports >4 5k displays).

 

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@tetsuos, Two Nvidia eGPUs should work but adding AMD cards to the mix may cause error 12.

 

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That brings up an interesting point: Is error 12 still an issue in Windows 11? I haven't seen any mention of this yet...

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