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John_Petrucci
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Posted by: maketas

Nope, Nvidia will have to push a new Web Driver for their cards for High Sierra, and perhaps a few more tweaks will be required, as usual. At this moment I tested a GTX 1060 without doing anything else, but it does not work (no surprise). I will try to change the Web Drivers version just to see if i can install and make them work on High Sierra.

But its supporting for all Radeon Rx Series??

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Posted by: jonwatso

I've installed a fresh copy of High Sierra on my Mac and wow! This is amazing! eGPU works straight out the box on my Late 2013 MacBook Pro.f

Nice to see it works on TB2 devices! I am really curious now if High Sierra brings any benefits for Nvidia eGPU and the 750m models, which have been so hard to implement, at least with the TB3 Akitio Node. Perhaps High Sierra made changes to Boot ROM so that it is not confused anymore when two GPUs (from Nvidia) are present (or perhaps wishful thinking). 

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Posted by: gtosi

Nice to see it works on TB2 devices! I am really curious now if High Sierra brings any benefits for Nvidia eGPU and the 750m models, which have been so hard to implement, at least with the TB3 Akitio Node. Perhaps High Sierra made changes to Boot ROM so that it is not confused anymore when two GPUs (from Nvidia) are present (or perhaps wishful thinking). 

Was thinking the same! 

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I guess we will have to wait for High Sierra Nvidia web drivers to test this out?

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Daelin
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Nice to see it works on TB2 devices! I am really curious now if High Sierra brings any benefits for Nvidia eGPU and the 750m models, which have been so hard to implement, at least with the TB3 Akitio Node. Perhaps High Sierra made changes to Boot ROM so that it is not confused anymore when two GPUs (from Nvidia) are present (or perhaps wishful thinking). 

well... mine is not working :/

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Posted by: motoic

but why would you be using your macbook pro's display for gaming? it's tiny and if you're shelling out for an egpu you should probably be using an external monitor.

Well, for me, it's not a MacBook. It's my late 2012 iMac with it's perfectly fine sized 21.5" screen. I would be very excited by not having to pay extra for an external monitor if an e-GPU solution could accelerate back to my iMac screen! Not to mention cluttering up my desk.

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Can someone make a video of the eGPUs on high sierra?

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Very excited by all of this, ordered one of Apple's dev kits yesterday will be testing it with a 13inch touchbar mbp. Really want to see what kind of improvements I'll get with Premier CC 17. Cost of the devkit was about the same as getting an RX 580 (if you can find one in stock) and a Sonnet box.

For people using the beta of High Sierra, how stable is it and have you run in to any problems with software like any of the Adobe products?

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Posted by: goalque

From the release notes:

"The External Graphics Development Kit supports the AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB graphics card that is supplied with the kit. Other graphics cards are unsupported in the External Graphics Development Kit. "

This is what makes me think the officially supported cards have a special Apple-blessed EFI. 

I'm gonna just have to do it. I have a spare SSD I can use, just need an enclosure for it.

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oldtimer
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Doesnt work for me either...

Specs:

Result: Detects eGPU, login/logout with garbled screen on external monitor

 

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Posted by: oldtimer

Doesnt work for me either...

Specs:

Result: Detects eGPU, login/logout with garbled screen on external monitor

 

If you boot machine with it plugged in, does it work then? Rather than hot plugging and login/logout.

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I updated a 10.12.5 with installed Nvidia drivers to 10.13 :

  • TB3 Enable „Hack“ does not work anymore.
  • Nvidia driver says „Cannot work anymore, will tell you when an update is ready.“

I also lost support for the HP Thunderbolt 3 dock, which I am pretty sure did work without TB3 enable hack.

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Posted by: SaturnV

If you boot machine with it plugged in, does it work then? Rather than hot plugging and login/logout.

No signal, just black screen on both when connected during boot.

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Posted by: Rycco

Can someone make a video of the eGPUs on high sierra?

Here is a video I made of it in action.

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Posted by: mac_editor

Could you go into About This Mac > Displays and see which GPU accelerates each of the displays? I presume the internal display is now accelerated using the internal GPU - also mentioned in the release notes.

Currently both are showing as using the eGPU. I don't think that eGPU is actually running the internal screen, which makes sense given the release notes 

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I have a MBRP early 2013 too, and it has no tb2 port. the ports are the tb1 ports (´・ω・`)

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Early 2011 to early 2013 is TB1

Late 2013 to Late 2015 is TB2

Late 2016 to now is TB3

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Akitio Thunder2 support confirmed, amazingly even from the macOS install wizard:

so it's not just TI83
even other older controllers could work

other hardware in the video
MacMini 2012 dual core (TB1)
amd rx480 reference card
3440x1440 monitor

(it's not me I'm just constantly searching youtube for high sierra + eGPU setups)

By the way, hi.

I got a maxed out 2014 Mini (dual core i7 3Ghz haswell + 16GB ram).

I'm having fantasies about adding an Akitio Node Lite + rx 560 + 4K/5K display to it when High Sierra is released :).

Exciting news.

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Posted by: jonwatso

Currently both are showing as using the eGPU. I don't think that eGPU is actually running the internal screen, which makes sense given the release notes. 

Thanks for looking that up. It's the first beta anyway... lots of changes to come.

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High Sir
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My previous message needs approvation because of an external link but I just wanted to quickly confirm that Akitio Thunder2 works (I saw it in a video, with Mini2012 and RX 480), even before High Sierra is even installed (i.e. it already works in the High Sierra installation wizard...definitely something not possible with nvidia eGPUs, unless Apple natively support nvidia next year after the new Mac Pro is released). 

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High Sir
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Posted by: jonwatso

Here is a video I made of it in action.

Hi, could you test Kodi 17 (fullscreen on the external monitor) in High Sierra with your eGPU, playing HEVC 4K 10bit MKVs?

I have a theory that since High Sierra added GPU-accelerated HEVC support to the API ffmpeg-vtb, programs like Kodi using ffmpeg-vtb may automatically get support for HEVC, if proper hardware is used (AMD Polaris 10, 11 or 12, nvidia Pascal, nvidia 950 or 960). Your rx480 should have hardware HEVC 10bit support.

If that works, pre-KabyLake macs could get full HEVC support thanks to eGPUs.

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Posted by: High Sir

Akitio Thunder2 support confirmed, amazingly even from the macOS install wizard:

so it's not just TI83
even other older controllers could work

other hardware in the video
MacMini 2012 dual core (TB1)
amd rx480 reference card
3440x1440 monitor

(it's not me I'm just constantly searching youtube for high sierra + eGPU setups)

By the way, hi.

I got a maxed out 2014 Mini (dual core i7 3Ghz haswell + 16GB ram).

I'm having fantasies about adding an Akitio Node Lite + rx 560 + 4K/5K display to it when High Sierra is released :).

Exciting news.

 

Very Good News!

All AMD RX family works??

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High Sir
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Posted by: John_Petrucci

Very Good News!

All AMD RX family works??

Yes I think they (Polaris) should all work.

We also know AMD Vega will be natively supported this December because there are Vega GPUs in the upcoming iMac Pro.

AMD is the way to go to be 100% native in macOS. 

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Any chance of this allowing eGPUs through Parallels? Or is that just impossible from a technical standpoint.

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High Sir
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  1. Posted by: Eason85

Any chance of this allowing eGPUs through Parallels? Or is that just impossible from a technical standpoint.

Not sure I can link them but there are questions about this in the parallels forum...the short answer is no. (if you mean a complete passthrough at the PCI level) 

You can still use the eGPU in VMs in the same limited way you use a regular mac GPU. 

Dual booting actual Windows could be a solution...

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Posted by: High Sir

Akitio Thunder2 support confirmed, amazingly even from the macOS install wizard:

so it’s not just TI83
even other older controllers could work

other hardware in the video
MacMini 2012 dual core (TB1)
amd rx480 reference card
3440×1440 monitor

(it’s not me I’m just constantly searching youtube for high sierra + eGPU setups)

By the way, hi.

I got a maxed out 2014 Mini (dual core i7 3Ghz haswell + 16GB ram).

I’m having fantasies about adding an Akitio Node Lite + rx 560 + 4K/5K display to it when High Sierra is released :).

Exciting news.

@High Sir. Awesome first post!

For Thunderbolt 3 connection, the TI82 controller is unsupported. Very good to know the Thunder2 works in 10.13. There’s something very cool about pairing the Mac mini with an eGPU. 😀

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Posted by: motoic

But EGPUs are huge. Almost the size of a desktop computer. You'd want to travel with that?

Travel with your super light MacBook Pro and then at homer/office connect eGPU for power 😀


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Mac Pro 2013 D500 + Apple Thunderbolt Display 27' = Will work with Apple eGPU dev kit?

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The MacBook Pro 2015 is a combination of 15 inch + Archio Thunder 2 + rx480.

 

I have played 4k hevc 10bit video on YouTube.

 

Cpu was 400%, gpu did nothing.

 

The test specification is the first beta version of 10.13.

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High Sir
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Yeah, I looked more into the matter and HEVC support (outside of Apple first party apps like Quicktime) won't happen automatically at all.

But it will happen, once third party devs update their apps.

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Here is a nice video run through of the eGPU setup with High Sierra from 9 to 5 Mac. 

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Some snippets of eGPU @ WWDC. 

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Sadly I can neither get the Thunder 2 nor the Mantiz Venus to work in combination with a XFX RX480 XXX edition. Could be VBIOS, could be current setup with DP -> eGPU. This is with a MacBook Pro 2015 R9 M370X. Can't put my finger on it just yet.

I does spin up and accelerate every single time. But the screen first shows artifacts, then turns to solid red. Rebooting when attaching the eGPU results in nothing, neither does hot plugging during boot.

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Posted by: Mark

https://www.apple.com/macos/high-sierra-preview/#footnote-3

Don't get too excited. Planned for Spring 2018. We'll still need the DIY stuff for a long time!

Looking at that quote, I'm not giving up hope yet. It's not clear whether "Spring 2018" is referring to an eGPU from Apple, to the eGPU technology in general, or to VR support.

Given that people already have 3d party eGPU's up and running, I can't help but believe that eGPU support will be part of High Sierra as soon as it's out this fall.

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MacBook Pro 2013 (early) -> tb2 -> tb3 -> akitio node/xfx rx480 = failed (see above)

MacBook Pro 2016 13" (tb) -> tb3 -> akitio node/xfx rx 480 = success - via login-logout

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Late 2013 13" MBP -> Apple's TB cable -> Apple's TB2-to-TB3 adapter -> Akitio Node -> reference RX 480 8GB = some stripes but shows up the login screen and success.

By the way, RX 460 does not work - only RX 480/RX 580 are IOPCITunnelCompatible.

Avoid XFX brand.

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