Apple is supporting external GPUs with High Sierra // US$599 Apple Dev Kit  

I talked about the early 2013, not the late.

So for now, early 2013 is cut out?

Hi everyone,

I'm also very interested in any news on MBPs with dGPUs 650M and 750M (for example Early 2013 to Mid2014) and High Sierra... 

Thanks!

Posted by: ikir

So for now, early 2013 is cut out?

yes, regrettably.

Posted by: kingjans

Hi everyone,

I'm also very interested in any news on MBPs with dGPUs 650M and 750M (for example Early 2013 to Mid2014) and High Sierra... 

Thanks!

650M-equipped MBP's are highly unlikely to work - at least not the early 2013 ones. I don't think the 2012 models would be any different, their architecturally being very similar.

Anyone seeing anything new in beta 2?

Posted by: Menneisyys

Posted by: kingjans

Hi everyone,

I'm also very interested in any news on MBPs with dGPUs 650M and 750M (for example Early 2013 to Mid2014) and High Sierra... 

Thanks!

650M-equipped MBP's are highly unlikely to work - at least not the early 2013 ones. I don't think the 2012 models would be any different, their architecturally being very similar.

Why should that be the case? It works with Sierra somehow. Hope this won't be somehow blocked.

I will update my post when I get my Akitio Node and RX580

Posted by: Baldrake

Anyone seeing anything new in beta 2?

Drivers for AMD Vega GPU is the big change in 10.13 Beta 2.

Posted by: itsage

Posted by: Baldrake

Anyone seeing anything new in beta 2?

Drivers for AMD Vega GPU is the big change in 10.13 Beta 2.

Any News for the future support on NVIDIA??

The new kexts are for AMD drivers only. Nvidia has a lot of work to do.

Posted by: John_Petrucci

Any News for the future support on NVIDIA??

Radeon has better macOS support, better Metal and probably OpenCL drivers, plug&play setup. RX 580 is the best mid range card on the market and RX Vega is coming with performance similar to GTX 1080 maybe more... so choosing Nvidia is becoming less logical imho.

Nvidia pascal drivers are bad on macOS and Windows too.

Posted by: raybanner

Why should that be the case? It works with Sierra somehow. Hope this won't be somehow blocked.

I will update my post when I get my Akitio Node and RX580

I've just tested the new (2) beta with the early 2013. The same happens as before: it doesn't work. 

Posted by: Menneisyys

I've just tested the new (2) beta with the early 2013. The same happens as before: it doesn't work. 

Ahh that's pretty lame to hear. 

Posted by: Baldrake

Anyone seeing anything new in beta 2?

It seems as though with beta 2, the internal display is accelerated, provided the external display is the primary display. I was trying to figure out how to test that yesterday and wasn't sure how to launch an app directly from a secondary display, so I can't confirm that the About This Mac Display tab is telling the truth.

Posted by: kingjans

Hi everyone,

I'm also very interested in any news on MBPs with dGPUs 650M and 750M (for example Early 2013 to Mid2014) and High Sierra... 

Thanks!

Mid-14 w/ 750M does not work either on Beta 2. eGPU detected fine, but output to external display is just glitches.

For anyone having trouble getting their AMD eGPU to work with High Sierra, I'm going through te endeavour to flash my XFX RX480 8GB XXX Edition to a reference RX580 card. This might just fix the issues I (and some others) had with the card only showing artifacts.

For more information on this, I suggest you take a look at this excellent thread on Overlock.net:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1604567/polaris-bios-editing-rx5xx-rx4xx

Posted by: FricoRico

For anyone having trouble getting their AMD eGPU to work with High Sierra, I'm going through te endeavour to flash my XFX RX480 8GB XXX Edition to a reference RX580 card. This might just fix the issues I (and some others) had with the card only showing artifacts.

For more information on this, I suggest you take a look at this excellent thread on Overlock.net:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1604567/polaris-bios-editing-rx5xx-rx4xx

Does your card have 8-pin power connector or 6-pin?

I'm about to pull the plug on an eGPU for use with High Sierra. My thought is just to get the Apple dev kit, since it will work for sure with minimal fuss. But are there other options I should be considering? (And yes, I know the RX580 is hard to get these days, so the fact that Apple has them also speaks to getting the dev kit.)

H Baldrake, the reason you state is exactly why I ended up purchasing the Apple Dev Kit.  Originally I was going to purchase an Akitio Node and find and RX580 but the node was backordered and the RX580 was only available on Ebay for way more than it is worth.  If you plane to use High Sierra then it seems the Dev Kit is a great chose and it runs really well for me.  If you plan to use it on Sierra 10.12.5 or so far .6 (beta) I have been unable to get the Dev Kit working with the RX580 and it seems only those with NVidia cards have been able to run on Sierra.  

But again, on high sierra I have had no issues and the dev kit is literally plug and play.

Yeah, I pulled the trigger on the Apple Dev Kit as well.  It's actually a pretty decent deal and seems to be compatible with more than just Macs.

Posted by: Sky11

Does your card have 8-pin power connector or 6-pin?

It has a 6-pin power connector.

Posted by: FricoRico

Posted by: Sky11

Does your card have 8-pin power connector or 6-pin?

It has a 6-pin power connector.

Really not a good idea flash RX580 video BIOS on a 6-pin RX480. Reference 580 requires a single 8pin power connector for a reason...

Posted by: FricoRico

Sadly I can neither get the Thunder 2 nor the Mantiz Venus to work in combination with a XFX RX480 XXX edition. Could be VBIOS, could be current setup with DP -> eGPU. This is with a MacBook Pro 2015 R9 M370X. Can't put my finger on it just yet.

I does spin up and accelerate every single time. But the screen first shows artifacts, then turns to solid red. Rebooting when attaching the eGPU results in nothing, neither does hot plugging during boot.

Your problem is very likely the VBIOS. My Sapphire reference RX 480 8GB  + Mid 2015 MBP M370X works via direct TB2 and TB2-to-TB3 adapter on High Sierra (first beta), and DP-DP connection.

Just got the public beta for 10.13... works fine with my TB3 modified III-D with RX 480 so far!

EDIT: Just waiting now for NVIDIA drivers to see how a 1080 will cope with this

I updated to High Sierra but unfortunately my RX460 does not work with the Venus and the MBP 13" TB 2016. When I hotplug it, it does recognize something (R9 xxx) but it does not ask me to log out and I cannot get an external screen to work. When I leave it plugged in and restart, I end up with log in loop with a blue screen crash. 

Now it did work with the Sierra and Goalque's script but I forgot to uninstall it before I upgrade. So I did uninstall it afterwards and I am afraid that maybe some drivers got deleted. 

Any ideas?

Only RX 480/RX 580 and possibly RX 470 are supported on High Sierra. Vega very likely as well. RX 460, other AMDs or Nvidia don't work.

Posted by: goalque

Only RX 480/RX 580 and possibly RX 470 are supported on High Sierra. Vega very likely as well. RX 460, other AMDs or Nvidia don't work.

No RX 570?

The same device id 0x67DF (RX 480 / RX 580 / RX 470 / RX 570) should work. By the way, Overclockers.co.uk offers RX 470 mining edition cards from Sapphire, without display outputs:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search?sSearch=Mining+edition#

I've tried my RX 470 + Thunder2 eGPU and it works great in 10.13.

Anyone have any luck playing Blizzard games or Steam games in High Sierra using external GPUs?

Posted by: ikir

 

No RX 570

Tested my RX570 on 10.3 dev beta 2 + MacBook Pro 13.3 2017 and works fine.

This is the question!

Posted by: vertice

Anyone have any luck playing Blizzard games or Steam games in High Sierra using external GPUs?

No problems on the mid-2015 Iris Pro MBP 15" + Node + RX 480. Played XCOM 2 a lot (via Steam) on this config.

Posted by: mac_editor

Posted by: kingjans

Hi everyone,

I'm also very interested in any news on MBPs with dGPUs 650M and 750M (for example Early 2013 to Mid2014) and High Sierra... 

Thanks!

Mid-14 w/ 750M does not work either on Beta 2. eGPU detected fine, but output to external display is just glitches.

 Thank you for your info. Please post your result once the new beta make it work. I was thinking about to sell my MBP15 if it doesn't work for the egpu.

There were too many incompatibilities with High Sierra and other apps so I just went back to Sierra. I'm gonna miss hot plugging for the next couple of months 🙁

Posted by: goalque

 

Your problem is very likely the VBIOS. My Sapphire reference RX 480 8GB  + Mid 2015 MBP M370X works via direct TB2 and TB2-to-TB3 adapter on High Sierra (first beta), and DP-DP connection.

This might probably be the case for my GPU as well, albeit an MSI Armor RX 480 4GB. @FricoRico's suggestion might actually work. I believe this is a single 8-pin card, however the VRAM is different.