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PsyPryss
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The egpu shows up in the System Report in PCI. Even the name of the gpu is detected properly but it doesn’t work. Shows the the driver is not installed. 

When it’s unplug it shows gpu not disconnected properly. 

2012 15” MBP Nvidia 650M TB1 10.13.4
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Mid 2012 15" (Non-Retina) MPB GT650M + RX580 (AKiTio Node via TB3 -> TB2/TB1 Adaptor) macOS 10.13.4/Win10


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imcalledandy
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I wouldn’t imagine there is an NVIDIA driver for 10.13.4 yet.

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demariners
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Sometimes I really hate Apple.  This was working perfectly for months then now it doesn't.  They expect everyone to get on the USB-C bandwagon and buy 50 more adapters that half of the time also do not work.

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imcalledandy
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Without the NVIDIA driver it’s not going to work. 

The fact that that it shows up in System Information is promising. 

@psypryss please can you post screenshots of system info?

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2017 TB MBP 2xGTX1080Ti-TB3 (Akitio Node) + macOS 10.13.4


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laimis17
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Can someone please share if it affects ExpressCard eGPU setup ?

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PsyPryss
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@imcalledandy
I’d love to. I took a picture but was too big. Using the iPhone. How to reduce the picture size and post?

Never mind. Posted. There’s an app for that....

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imcalledandy
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@psypryss Apologies I thought you had an NVIDIA GPU. I guess some AMD cards aren’t supported?

2013 MacPro 2xD700 [email protected] (AKiTiO Thunder2) + macOS 10.13.3
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Posted by: PsyPryss

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The egpu shows up in the System Report in PCI. Even the name of the gpu is detected properly but it doesn’t work. Shows the the driver is not installed. 

When it’s unplug it shows gpu not disconnected properly. 

2012 15” MBP Nvidia 650M TB1 10.13.4
RX 580 Atitio Node

You succeeded to boot with the Node plugged in and a card in it ? With an MBP 2012 ?

Like said above, it seems promising... before that no possible boot with the thing plugged in ...

I am on vacation for now, far from my Node 🙂

MBP 2018, Touch Bar, i7 2.6 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1T SSD, Radeon 560X... very nice!
eGPU : Akitio Node + RX 580 + GTX 980 Ti + Vega64


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ondert
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My eGPU performance has dropped about %300 since I updated to 10.13.4

It happened to me during the beta and I formatted my Mac. On 10.13.3, there was no issue. Today, I made the update hoping they fixed it but it seems they didn't. 

I'm using 15" late 2016 MacBook Pro with Sonnet Breakaway 550 installed Sapphire Rx 580 Pulse 8gb and as an external monitor I'm using Dell P2715Q.

What can I do?

 edit: Doing NVRAM reset while eGPU is connected seems to worked. I have already performed SMC and NVRAM resets before but didn't work. This time I did the reset while eGPU is connected.

edit: it still performs poor. anyone experienced similar things?

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PsyPryss
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Posted by: imcalledandy

@psypryss Apologies I thought you had an NVIDIA GPU. I guess some AMD cards aren’t supported?

Nah, I forgot to include what gpu the egpu was. My bad. 

From what I remembered it has always worked with the egpu plugged in. The external monitor just didn’t display anything on High Sierra. I can blindly login (I had dual display set up with the external and internal showing different desktops) on 10.12.6 before upgrading but everything was super slow. It boots with it connected. Just doesn’t work.

Mid 2012 15" (Non-Retina) MPB GT650M + RX580 (AKiTio Node via TB3 -> TB2/TB1 Adaptor) macOS 10.13.4/Win10


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joedborg
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I have a Sonnet Breakout Box with an RX560 inside.  I keep getting an issue where the eGPU icon appears then goes away 

Any help would be appreciated.

ADDITION: It'a a late 2016 13" TB3 MBP.

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philw
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Yes, unexpectedly, I get the same. Unexpectedly, because I'm on a TB2 5k iMac and I thought I wouldn't get anything at all on 10.13.4

Icon appears briefly in the top menu and it whinges when unplugged...

Giagbyte Radeon RX580

Given up on all my Macs...but successfully running: Gigabyte Designare Z390, Core i9-9900K, 64GB RAM, 2x Internal GTX 1080TI, 2x GTX 1070 eGPU (Sonnet eGFX)


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secretsquirrel
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Sonnet already updated their macOS egpu info pages.
Now only Thunderbolt3-equipped Macs running 10.13.4 are able to use their eGPU products and are supported.
No more mention of Thunderbolt2 on their entire website...

Thats really sad because until now I used the Breakaway box without problems on my iMac late 2014 running 10.13.3...
It seems I am stuck with this release forever or have to switch to a new Mac...

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Arthy
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Apple has updated its support page for eGPU.

It recommends specific rigs and says Boot Camp is NOT supported.

Supported eGPU configurations

It's important to use an eGPU with a recommended graphics card and Thunderbolt 3 chassis. And if you're using a MacBook Pro, the eGPU's Thunderbolt 3 chassis needs to provide sufficient power to run the graphics card while charging the computer. Check with the maker of the chassis to find out how much power it provides, and make sure that it's enough to charge your connected Mac notebook.

Recommended graphics cards, along with chassis that can power them sufficiently, are listed below.

 

AMD Radeon RX 570, RX 580, and Radeon Pro WX 7100 graphics cards

These graphics cards are based on the AMD Polaris architecture. Recommended graphics cards include the Sapphire Pulse series and the AMD WX series.

Recommended Thunderbolt 3 chassis for these graphics cards:

 

AMD Radeon RX Vega 56

These graphics cards are based on the AMD Vega 56 architecture. Recommended graphics cards include the Sapphire Vega 56 and XFX Vega 56.

Recommended Thunderbolt 3 chassis for these graphics cards:

 

AMD Radeon RX Vega 64, Vega Frontier Edition Air, Radeon Pro WX 9100

These graphics cards are based on the AMD Vega 64 architecture. Recommended graphics cards include the Sapphire Vega 64, XFX Vega 64, AMD Frontier Edition air-cooled, and AMD Radeon Pro WX 9100.

Recommended Thunderbolt 3 chassis for these graphics cards:

 

Thunderbolt 3 all-in-one eGPU products

These products contain a powerful built-in GPU and supply sufficient power to charge your MacBook Pro.

Recommended Thunderbolt 3 all-in-one eGPU:

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itsage
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Apple not supporting Bootcamp is nothing new. I tested my 2016 15″ MacBook Pro with Windows 10 last night after installing 10.13.4 and eGPU remained working in Bootcamp.

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sdgsdfgsdhf
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Which of the AMD cards listed above by @arthy is the least expensive and actually purchasable?

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Arthy
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Thanks for the confirmation! With the removal of legacy TB support, I was worried they would also actively prevent BootCamp compatibility.

The RX560 is not present in the list but it was demonstrated to work on MBP 2017 in 13.2 I believe.

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Jared Busch
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Posted by: itsage

Apple not supporting Bootcamp is nothing new. I tested my 2016 15" MacBook Pro with Windows 10 last night after installing 10.13.4 and eGPU remained working in Bootcamp.

What GPU are you using? and did you just flat out update or did you need to uninstall or modify anything before or after updating to 10.13.4?

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detunedradios
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I also updated to 10.13.4 on my 2016 15” Pro and can confirm Boot Camp works the same as it ever did. No changes, just not something Apple officially supports.

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itsage
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@jared_busch I ran the update through the App Store from beta 7. Nothing was done in my existing Windows 10 Bootcamp. Mantiz Venus + RX Vega 56 was the connected eGPU. It has been working this way since I wrote the Bootcamp eGPU setup guide in September 2017.

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Juan C. Yunis
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@itsage I read the article you shared in Twitter, the part where you said that sleep works and puts the egpu to sleep, was it fixed, i still have beta 7 and it doesn't work with mantiz venus + vega fe air.

Also, i think that my bootcamp issues are related to the gaming driver for my vega fe

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Jared Busch
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@itsage ok cool, thanks. I was hoping you would say a Nvidia card...lol.

I have a Nvidia in my Mantiz Venus. I guess no one has posted if they've updated to 10.13.4 with Nvidia cards? I've had a look around but haven't found anyone post any success.

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itsage
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@jared_busch Nvidia cards is much easier in Bootcamp than AMD cards. I have no doubt your Nvidia eGPU setup will remain working if it was working in Bootcamp prior to 10.13.4.

@juan_c_yunis Vega FE is a different beast. I don’t currently have an enclosure with a suficient PSU to run it. My experience was with an RX Vega 56 eGPU setup.

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Jared Busch
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Thanks @itsage I agree with you regarding bootcamp. It was pretty darn easy!

My concern is with my Nvidia and 10.13.4. I'm wondering if updating will require me to perform any work arounds.

For example, when I tried to update from 10.13.2 to 10.13.3 my eGPU stopped working, so I had to restore my backup . to 10.13.2 again.

Just wondering if the update will be smooth and my eGPU will be ok or will it break it again and or will I need to perform any work arounds again.

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itsage
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@jared_busch You won’t be able to use Nvidia eGPU in 10.13.4 atm. There’s no confirmed workaround for this version yet.

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Arthy
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Why are the Nvidia card better in BootCamp? 

Ive been going for an RX560 because of the implementation experience of some of the people here, and also as a fallback MacOS option.

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Jared Busch
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@itsage that's exactly what I was talking about, lol. Ya Fre4k hasn't posted any work around files yet, so I'm just gonna hold off for now.

I've been thinking about buying a Vega56 to replace my GTX1080 but I'm wondering about performance comparison while in MacOS, but then I also game in Bootcamp...So I don't know =(

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@arthy Nvidia eGPU is not better than AMD eGPU in Bootcamp. Nvidia eGPU is easier to setup in Bootcamp than AMD eGPU (less likely to cause error 12 = easier).

@jared_busch The best thing to do right now is to stay on 10.13.3 and wait for this clusterfuck of a decision to unfold. The supported GPUs Apple lists on its website are not reasonably obtainable. The majority of people who are interested in external GPU are still on Thunderbolt 2 Macs.

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10.13.4 breaks the RX 560. Even automate-egpu doesn't work anymore. Ironically, recovery mode (without automate-egpu) sees the egpu, but a regular boot doesn't.

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Arthy
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@itstage thanks for the explanation  

@mortifer in MacOS or BC?

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With official support for OSX from eGPU vendors there should be no reason for them not so support flashtools on OSX?

@itsage Can you reach out to your contacts?

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Normal macOS boot. Recovery mode sees it. Normal macOS disables it.

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I would like to be publically mocked for updating to 10.13.4 on my Mac Pro 2013 while 10.13.3 was working. Sonnet Breakaway with XFX RX 580 8GB was working. Now, I cannot have my monitor run through my box to the TB3 to TB2 adapter into my Mac Pro
I've had the 10.13.4 beta on my MacBook Pro and everything was working great, so I thought they had this dialed in.

I'm becoming more and more upset with Apple day by day. Screw them professionals out there. I knew better to update.

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I read about this to see if your GPU is connected via Macrumors.com I believe it was, mine doesn't show in the activity monitor but does under PCI in System Information... ideas?

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I have the same problem. I'm guessing it has something to do with "Driver Installed = No".

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