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(@marc_kellerman)
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Hey guys,

Is there a setup for a eGPU setup for my mbp that wouldn't require any mod or additional power? I'm just looking for basic gaming additional boost, since my mbp doesn't have any graphics.

I'm running macOS Mojave.

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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@marc_kellerman

You will require modifications on macOS for eGPU. Some RX 560 models only use PCIe power (IIRC the MSI Aero ITX does).

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(@marc_kellerman)
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Thanks for the quick reply.

Would this work? Not exactly sure what I'm 'looking for'.. :/

https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Graphics-Card/GV-RX560GAMING-OC-4GD-rev-10

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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@marc_kellerman

Actually according to buyer’s guide the maximum GPU power supported without extra power supply is 25W for Thunder2, so essentially nothing will work. I was under the impression that up to 75W is supported, but seems not. 

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So just change the power supply? Or do something else fancy? :/ basically I’m looking for the simplest method to add a bit of GPU.. 

Or a thunderbolt 3 with adapter, and a better eGPU box? Even if I lose performance due to the 3->2 adapter?

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@marc_kellerman

From post title I assumed you already had the Thunder2, my bad. Get a thunderbolt 3 enclosure (see Buyer's Guide) and check builds for reference.

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@mac_editor

I do.. from amazon.. it's a simple return.. 😉

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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@marc_kellerman

Ah gotcha. I strongly suggest a TB3 enclosure + TB3>TB2 adapter (Apple) then.

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Changing the power brick to a more powerful one (12V, 100W works), would allow you to run a RX560 in a Thunder2/3. You won't need to mod the enclosure further. That said, these boxes tend to be pricey to the point where getting a cheap eGPU enclosure, plus a used Apple TB to TB3 adapter costs the same, or only a little more. I'd also recommend returning it and then picking up a TB3 eGPU enclosure, such as a Sonnet Breakaway Box 350W (when on sale, it can be cheaper than 200$) and then getting the Apple TB to TB3 adapter (~30$ used on ebay). Then you can opt for a RX470 or RX570 instead of the RX560 for significantly faster performance without a large increase in cost.

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Want to output [email protected] out of an old system on the cheap? Read here.
Give your Node Pro a second Thunderbolt3 controller for reliable peripherals by re-using a TB3 dock (~50$).

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(@marc_kellerman)
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@yukikaze

Thanks for the info!

I have a:

And the Sonnet eGFX Breakaway is not available in Canada for a reasonable price. I'm considering:

With a TB3->TB2 apple adapter.

Does this make sense?

GTX 1650: 168$
AKiTiO Node: 351$
TB3/TB2 Adapter: 59$

(All Canadian prices)

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MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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Unless I've missed something you are not going to be able to run the 1650 in any version of macOS, best stick to AMD.

I actually have a spare RX 560 I'd be happy to sell for cheap if of interest, although you'd prob do better getting a 570 locally as I'm UK based.

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(@marc_kellerman)
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Grrr.. alright.. lol.

Can someone point me to a power adapter? so I can use the Thunder2 + RX 560?

I can get it off amazon.ca for 240$ derived on Saturday. will be hard to beat.. lol

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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@marc_kellerman - This should work.

Want to output [email protected] out of an old system on the cheap? Read here.
Give your Node Pro a second Thunderbolt3 controller for reliable peripherals by re-using a TB3 dock (~50$).

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(@marc_kellerman)
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Awesome! and is the 560 the best card this thing will handle?

(I realize how much of a pain in the <beep> I am) 😉

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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@marc_kellerman

Its not recommend, but I use mine in a Node Lite with the standard power supply, also did the same with a 1050, and heard people doing it with 1050ti's.

I have no experience with your model of MacBook but full of thumb is Nvidia cards are usually easier to set up in Bootcamp (Windows), so if you are ONLY using the card in Windows a 1050ti or 1650 may be a better choice, if you are using the eGPU in macOS then the 560 is currently your best option. The 1050ti is a lot more powerful than a 560, but that makes no difference if you cant actually use a 1050ti (macOS).

Personally I like the mini eGPU solution but have since given it up in the chase for more and more power.

I made this little chart of the games I play which might give you an idea of expectations...

https://www.notion.so/eightarmedpet/7460661cce3e4cc3b98fd2e24abe35f2?v=b97d67731f95457aa21d6d2f0deea233

edit: Would also recommend getting a Node Lite as its TB3 rather than TB2 and some day you'll upgrade that laptop...

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2017 13" MacBook Pro Touch Bar
GTX1060 + AKiTiO Thunder3 + Win10
GTX1070 + Sonnet Breakaway Box + Win10
GTX1070 + Razer Core V1 + Win10
Vega 56 + Razer Core V1 + macOS + Win10
Vega 56 + Mantiz Venus + macOS + W10

---

LG 5K Ultrafine flickering issue fix


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(@marc_kellerman)
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I ordered the 560 and the power adapter... I'll give an update once it's setup!

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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Hardware:

Software:

Everything works fine! Thanks so much for everyones suggestions!

Is there anything else i should to? Am i missing anything?

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014): AKiTiO Thunder2 + RX 560


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