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hoeveler
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April 2, 2018 11:30 pm  

This isn’t too far off-topic as we are taking about Apple’s consistent pattern of doing their own thing at the expense of their users. This just came out 5 hours ago. Have fun sticking with macOS when developers have to develop for an entirely new family of processors, completely unique to Apple!  https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/4/2/17189372/apple-intel-chip-processors-macs-date


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April 3, 2018 1:47 pm  
Posted by: hoeveler
Apple DOES offer battery replacement here. And if you’re not covered, it costs about $75. Now can we get back on-topic? 🙂

https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-power

Only for iPhones. Will check if they have news about iPads, but I guess we need a couple more class actions 🙂


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April 3, 2018 2:40 pm  
Posted by: hoeveler

This isn’t too far off-topic as we are taking about Apple’s consistent pattern of doing their own thing at the expense of their users. This just came out 5 hours ago. Have fun sticking with macOS when developers have to develop for an entirely new family of processors, completely unique to Apple!  https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/4/2/17189372/apple-intel-chip-processors-macs-date

If true, this is another dumb move into Apple inconsciously and eventually becoming a software-only company.
Piss off developers and your “best” hardware and “best” OS will soon be useless.
You will be soon developing your own “best” apps running only on your own “best” platform... only to eventually realize that your apps are not that good and the real best apps are made by third-party developers but only run on Windows. You have become a dying niche for fanboys only.
Now you need your customers back, and quick. Hurry up, add a Windows emulator... uhm, wait a moment...
I have some kind of deja-vu 😉

So what should Apple do instead ? Keep running on x86 and sell an yearly subscription to OS X with full support for standard PC hardware with selected components. Free OS X if you buy a Mac (until there will be Macs).


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April 3, 2018 2:57 pm  

@dan_streaman Apple is filtering out the demanding customers and keeping only the "best" ones.

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April 4, 2018 9:41 am  

Sorry, your problem with that is what, precisely? Apple makes plenty of mistakes, but this is just a company looking to securing its future: whilst the Intel architecture has the advantage of near-universality in desktop and laptop devices, it's a triumph of development over design, with a massively complex legacy architecture that is now suffering quite badly from falling off Moore's curve. ARM, otoh, is a largely 'clean' architectural model that is both highly extensible and readily integrated with other elements of a close-coupled hardware ecosystem. It is also a multi-source model where you're not tied to a single supplier. The direction the world is taking is definitely more towards the ARM model than Intel's, so I'd be more worried if Apple weren't at least looking at all alternatives.

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April 4, 2018 12:01 pm  

@Technomad Note that the desktop (in terms of workloads, not form factor) is also foreign land for ARM and requires development-over-design to flourish. ARM was born with simplicity and power-friendliness in mind. This works wonderfully in mobile/portable scenarios, but *today* does not address desktop-class workloads. ARM is just starting to truly get in on multi-core (even there, things like BIG.little were more efficiency than performance-oriented). Also - there were already a couple of attempts at going after desktop/server/datacenter loads with ARM (most notably NVidia's Denver) which failed miserably, so we know elegance in design is not enough just yet.

A lot of Intel's baggage came from the requirement for software compatibility - so in a weird way things like Windows 10, UWP apps et al make things easier for them to change things, too, no longer being expected to run WinXP (and same age apps) forever.

As for single supplier - that never really was the question, Apple prefers not to have ANY critical-component suppliers (if we were to nitpick, the x86 ecosystem has AMD, too, and the open high-end ARM market is very Samsung/Qualcomm polarized, so not exactly teeming with choice).

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April 5, 2018 4:24 am  

Goalque, Thanks for all of the work toy guys have done on this page as well as taking care of the Mac faithful with GPU work in general. I do have a question. Is the performance hit going to be as drastic for internal monitor acceleration as this sounds?


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April 9, 2018 4:09 pm  

is rx 460 support in 10.13.4 with tb1/2 script?


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April 9, 2018 4:27 pm  

To use RX 460/560 as eGPU in 10.13.4, you'll need goalque's automate-eGPU.kext.

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May 11, 2018 1:49 am  

ziggy, you are my hero. I love my Late 2012 Mini 2.6GHz i7-3270QM quad core with 16GB mem and 1.2TB fusion drive. It "processes" great, but it doesn't "fly" well (X-plane flight sim). I had to work really hard to get the 10.13.4 upgrade installed for some reason and now on the 2018-0001 security patch version, but lusting over a Sonnet Breakaway with the RX580 card. I really love Mac OS X, and especially time-machine which I don't need very often, but when I do it has always come through for me. I want more graphics now - not in September, not in 2019, now. (As a progressive eye-glassed old-timer, l also I like my Mini paired with a 24" 21:9 aspect external monitor better than the new larger 16:9 iMac, that I would have to crane my neck up to see the top of the screen.) I had a big iMac before - don't want to go there again.


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