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kizmiaz
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Hey everyone,

I thought I would share a screenshot of a chat that I had with Nvidia chat support today. The representative stated that Pascal support will be coming to High Sierra very soon (in two working days apparently).

https://imgur.com/a/m86F6

Fingers crossed they're an official (non beta release), but I figured this might provide some relief to quite a few of you on this forum.

nando4 Sep-29>> The released  Nvidia High Sierra drivers DO NOT WORK for TB3 eGPUs. Per @itsage's testing:

I tested GTX 960, GTX 980 Ti, and GTX 1070 with a bunch of TI83 Thunderbolt enclosures (AKiTiO Node, AORUS Gaming Box, Mantiz Venus, OMEN Accelerator, and Sonnet Breakaway Box). Nvidia eGPU does not work in High Sierra at the moment. The web driver is not enough to enable external graphics in 10.13.

Apple’s native eGPU support is for a select group of AMD cards only. The reason Nvidia eGPU was possible in 10.12 Sierra is due to workarounds such as Goalque’s automate-eGPU script and Ratasfabi’s eGPU-enabler app. Apple has changed external GPU activation in 10.13 and these workarounds are no longer effective in High Sierra.

If you have upgraded to High Sierra and found your Nvidia eGPU no longer working, either downgrade to 10.12 or go AMD RX 580/Vega 56. The clearest message you can send to the manufacturers is with your wallet. Also comment on AppleInsider’s article and 9to5Mac’s article about their inaccuracy. 

 

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stygianflux
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Everything was working beautifully!  I waited to update Mac’s OS to 10.13 til today I noticed there were new drivers…

I installed the new Nvidia Driver, as well as the latest CUDA driver..

My eGPU is not being recognized.  I thought I might have to reinstall Rastafabis' Installer again , so I did.. still nothing.. 

I made sure SIP was disabled, so I went into Restore Mode and ran csrutil disable in Terminal.  still nothing.

Weirdly enough, when I boot my computer the CUDA Driver Preferences tell me I need to Update to the current version.. but it also says my current version IS the current version.. Am I missing something?

 

 

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itsage
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Thank you for sharing. Please keep in mind the Nvidia Rep. explicitly stated "the new driver that enables Pascal GPUs on High Sierra will be released in the next two working days." This does not necessarily mean Nvidia eGPU support in High Sierra.

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kizmiaz
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You're welcome, and you're right that this doesn't confirm egpu support.

I was actually wondering, what do you guys think the chances are of someone creating a script/fix to enable egpu support in case high sierra does not support Pascal egpus natively (like goalque etc. did for sierra)?

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goalque
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IOPCITunnelCompatible does nothing in High Sierra with the GTX 780, which has native Apple drivers.

This key is not enough for "native eGPU support".

Native eGPU support in High Sierra === integration with Metal 2, its MTLDevice properties and events. Without a green light from Apple, things don't look promising... We will see soon.

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Rycco
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@goalque but if we at least have support like on Sierra than it's already good enough, no?

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Hallelujah
https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/378/WebDriver-378.10.10.10.15.114.pkg

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Excubitoro
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Anyone with eGPU tried this driver yet.

also, a lot of users seem to get black screen (Nvidia on hackintosh I assume). Would installing this for eGPU give similar problems?

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Yep. Unfortunately, it doesn't work OOB for my setup (MBA mid2012 + Akitio Thunder 2 + GTX980) - the card is detected as Nvidia Chip Model.

But I don't have any issues w/ my hack-build (asus p9x79 + 4930K + GTX980Ti).

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devild
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I've just tested my 2nd build (MBP late 2016 + Akitio Thunder 3 (Ti82) + GTX1080) - the card is detected as Nvidia Chip model.

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Posted by: goalque

IOPCITunnelCompatible does nothing in High Sierra with the GTX 780, which has native Apple drivers.

This key is not enough for "native eGPU support".

Native eGPU support in High Sierra === integration with Metal 2, its MTLDevice properties and events. Without a green light from Apple, things don't look promising... We will see soon.

^ This. A web driver release this quickly means things have not changed much. There's no solution for Nvidia eGPU in High Sierra atm. It seems to me Apple and Nvidia are trying one another to see who needs whom more. As consumers, we should tell them they both need us and quit playing games.

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Nvidia wake up... maybe they are waiting for their partners Bizon....


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kizmiaz
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Hmm. This is disappointing news.

@theitstage: What is the best way to express our concerns to Apple? I feel as though going through their standard chat channels may be insufficient. 

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Posted by: itsage
Posted by: goalque

IOPCITunnelCompatible does nothing in High Sierra with the GTX 780, which has native Apple drivers.

This key is not enough for "native eGPU support".

Native eGPU support in High Sierra === integration with Metal 2, its MTLDevice properties and events. Without a green light from Apple, things don't look promising... We will see soon.

^ This. A web driver release this quickly means things have not changed much. There's no solution for Nvidia eGPU in High Sierra atm. It seems to me Apple and Nvidia are trying one another to see who needs whom more. As consumers, we should tell them they both need us and quit playing games.

It seems there is since a few hours ...

Nvidia Web Driver - 378.10.10.10.15.114

(was posted here)

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Rycco
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I don't get it. There were no official support for Sierra on nvidia cards as well but here its all working with goalque's script. What changed on High Sierra? We only needed the drivers, no?

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Posted by: Rycco

I don't get it. There were no official support for Sierra on nvidia cards as well but here its all working with goalque's script. What changed on High Sierra? We only needed the drivers, no?

My question also

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Posted by: Reinhard1004

It seems there is since a few hours ...

Nvidia Web Driver - 378.10.10.10.15.114

(was posted here)

 Hackintosh. Please specify where do you see a solution for a Mac & eGPU? MetalFishX did not get it working.

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Several "hackintoshes" seem to have it working already...  https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/nvidia-releases-alternate-graphics-drivers-for-macos-high-sierra-10-13-0-378-10-10-10-15.225522/

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Hackintosh != Mac eGPU. Unfortunately these hacks are not helpful through the Thunderbolt connection. All Nvidia extensions do load fine by the IOPCITunnelCompatible key, nvAccelerator is registered, but does nothing and the GPU is not visible to any graphics APIs. I guess Apple has made a strategic decision: they don't want Nvidia to be part of their eGPU ecosystem in macOS High Sierra.

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AngelRC
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Just read this: http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/09/27/macos-high-sierra-drivers-for-nvidia-pci-e-video-cards-now-available-for-mac-pro-egpu

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goalque
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eGPU mentioned in the title. Where is the first "Thunderbolt 3 external graphics" implementation in macOS 10.13 with an Nvidia card?

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Posted by: goalque

eGPU mentioned in the title. Where is the first "Thunderbolt 3 external graphics" implementation in macOS 10.13 with an Nvidia card?

This!!

I'm looking to get an eGPU to run through bootcamp on my 2016 macbook Pro w/ touchbar but all the installation tutorials seem outdated as there is a new, faster way to install eGPUs by the day. Is error 12 still a thing? Can I just plug and play now? Does support for High Sierra mean support for bootcamp w/ High Sierra? So many questions!

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Posted by: AngelRC

Just read this: http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/09/27/macos-high-sierra-drivers-for-nvidia-pci-e-video-cards-now-available-for-mac-pro-egpu

That is inaccurate. There was no Nvidia web driver for 10.13 beta builds. This misinformation would lead to many more people upgrading to High Sierra only to find out their Nvidia eGPUs no longer work.

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goalque
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Yeah, I would be very interested in their "brief testing" and the level of compatibility.

A good start is to add IOPCITunnelCompatible true to NVDAStartupWeb.kext/Contents/Info.plist which is now located at /Library/Extensions/.

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Posted by: goalque

Hackintosh != Mac eGPU. Unfortunately these hacks are not helpful through the Thunderbolt connection. All Nvidia extensions do load fine by the IOPCITunnelCompatible key, nvAccelerator is registered, but does nothing and the GPU is not visible to any graphics APIs. I guess Apple has made a strategic decision: they don't want Nvidia to be part of their eGPU ecosystem in macOS High Sierra.

Apple should make a clear, public statement about this if this is true.

It's a shame that hackintoshes are "supported", but not original hardware with compatible eGPU enclosures ...

Hmm, does anybody know what Nvidia say about current status with High Sierra and outlook..?
(why the drivers for high sierra, if it's not supported anyway..?)

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Posted by: Reinhard1004
Posted by: goalque

Hackintosh != Mac eGPU. Unfortunately these hacks are not helpful through the Thunderbolt connection. All Nvidia extensions do load fine by the IOPCITunnelCompatible key, nvAccelerator is registered, but does nothing and the GPU is not visible to any graphics APIs. I guess Apple has made a strategic decision: they don't want Nvidia to be part of their eGPU ecosystem in macOS High Sierra.

Apple should make a clear, public statement about this if this is true.

It's quite a shame that Nvidia runs with hackintosh hardware, but that they intentionally block it for original Apple hardware + compatible eGPU enclosures ...

We don't really know, until Apple actually announces proper eGPU support come Spring next year. 

My understanding could be wrong, but the reason Nvidia eGPU not working in High Sierra is not so much about Apple blocking it, but they need to implement the Nvidia-specific stuff in Metal 2 to enable eGPU functionality. For all we know, maybe Apple wants to get the RX/Vega cards working properly with Metal 2 before they start work on Nvidia. 

Non-eGPU (cards connected directly to the PCIe bus in Hackintoshes) continue to work normally for Nvidia as long as Nvidia releases the relevant High Sierra drivers.  

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goalque
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Is this another inaccurate statement?

"The release also includes beta drivers for Thunderbolt 3 eGPU setups on the 5K iMac and MacBook Pro."

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/27/nvidia-pascal-drivers-high-sierra/

Has anyone tested TB3 and various IOPCITunnelCompatible settings? I haven't had time.

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Posted by: goalque

Is this another inaccurate statement?

"The release also includes beta drivers for Thunderbolt 3 eGPU setups on the 5K iMac and MacBook Pro."

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/27/nvidia-pascal-drivers-high-sierra/

Has anyone tested TB3 and various IOPCITunnelCompatible settings? I haven't had time.

"Includes BETA support for iMac and MacBook Pro systems with NVIDIA graphics"

The article was just changed. I've tested & it's not working on MBP 13' 2017 without touchbar + 1050TI & Node Lite. It is recognized as Nvidia Chip Model. 

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Still says "Thunderbolt 3 eGPU setups on the 5K iMac and MacBook Pro." at the top, but probably inaccurate.

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I tested GTX 960, GTX 980 Ti, and GTX 1070 with a bunch of TI83 Thunderbolt enclosures (AKiTiO Node, AORUS Gaming Box, Mantiz Venus, OMEN Accelerator, and Sonnet Breakaway Box). Nvidia eGPU does not work in High Sierra at the moment. The web driver is not enough to enable external graphics in 10.13.

Apple's native eGPU support is for a select group of AMD cards only. The reason Nvidia eGPU was possible in 10.12 Sierra is due to workarounds such as Goalque's automate-eGPU script and Ratasfabi's eGPU-enabler app. Apple has changed external GPU activation in 10.13 and these workarounds are no longer effective in High Sierra.

If you have upgraded to High Sierra and found your Nvidia eGPU no longer working, either downgrade to 10.12 or go AMD RX 580/Vega 56. The clearest message you can send to the manufacturers is with your wallet. Also comment on AppleInsider's article and 9to5Mac's article about their inaccuracy. 

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Also just test... no luck.. my new Sonnet box doesn't work either... Windows gets stuck on the Windows logo... any ideas? Anyone?

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There's neither support nor workaround for Nvidia eGPU in High Sierra atm. [link]

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Posted by: itsage

I tested GTX 960, GTX 980 Ti, and GTX 1070 with a bunch of TI83 Thunderbolt enclosures (AKiTiO Node, AORUS Gaming Box, Mantiz Venus, OMEN Accelerator, and Sonnet Breakaway Box). Nvidia eGPU does not work in High Sierra at the moment. The web driver is not enough to enable external graphics in 10.13.

Apple's native eGPU support is for a select group of AMD cards only. The reason Nvidia eGPU was possible in 10.12 Sierra is due to workarounds such as Goalque's automate-eGPU script and Ratasfabi's eGPU-enabler app. Apple has changed external GPU activation in 10.13 and these workarounds are no longer effective in High Sierra.

If you have upgraded to High Sierra and found your Nvidia eGPU no longer working, either downgrade to 10.12 or go AMD RX 580/Vega 56. The clearest message you can send to the manufacturers is with your wallet. Also comment on AppleInsider's and 9to5Mac's articles about their inaccuracy. 

Link to the articles?  

I upgraded last night and have a 1080 Ti which is useless at the moment. 

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@awer25, the links were shared on the first page of this thread. I added them to my post just now.

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