Setup & Software Discussions
Radeon VII and Razer Core X Causes Hard Reboot
 

Radeon VII and Razer Core X Causes Hard Reboot  

  RSS

(@arden_shibley)
Trusted Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 

MBP 2018 2.6GHz 32GB Vega 20
Razer Core X with included TB3 cable and Radeon VII.

Plug it in, and the response ranges from "No eGPU detected" in the little chip-looking icon in the top right, to my Macbook's fans going full tilt for two seconds, then shutting off abruptly.

EDIT: AMD says you must wait for MacOS 10.14.4, as confirmed by other threads. 

Will update here once 10.14.4 is released. 

This topic was modified 8 months ago

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

Had the same happen on an iMac Pro with Helios eGPU containing the Radeon VII.  Hard reboot.
I may soon try the 10.14.4 beta 2.  If it works I'll update.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
(@arden_shibley)
Trusted Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 
Posted by: mwo21

Had the same happen on an iMac Pro with Helios eGPU containing the Radeon VII.  Hard reboot.
I may soon try the 10.14.4 beta 2.  If it works I'll update.

Awesome! Keep us posted please!

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


ReplyQuote
Jason0991
(@jason0991)
New Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 

same thing happens to me. Hard reboot. Do you know when apple will release 10.14.4?

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

No. Hoping March. 

Oddly, I’ve been unable to download the 10.14.4 beta. There’s apparently some problems doing so reported by quite a few people.  Apple has been silent. But I will give it a shot as soon as I can. 

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
OliverB
(@oliverb)
Noble Member
Joined: 12 months ago
 

Why not 2,9GHz?

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680


ReplyQuote
(@arden_shibley)
Trusted Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 
Posted by: OliverB

Why not 2,9GHz?

I presume you're talking about me? .. Waste of money. Improper cooling for a processor of that calibre. I got Vega 20 and Radeon VII, I'm good.

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

Tried Mojave Mac OS X 10.14.4 beta 3 today.   Radeon VII not working.
After installing the beta Mac OS X, I restarted then plugged in the Helios FX 650 box containing the Radeon VII.  The Mac suddenly shutdown.  (Note:  this behavior of suddenly shutting down is not isolated to the Radeon VII.  The same behavior happened plugging in my eGPU containing a Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB card.)
I restarted again with the Helios and Radeon VII turned on and plugged in.  No crash this time.  However, the eGPU icon shows "no removable GPU".  The iStat Menu does show both the dGPU Radeon Pro Vega 64 in the iMac Pro and shows a second generic "Radeon Vega" as well.  The System Report for Mac OS does not show the eGPU card at all.  Geekbench does show there are two GPUs installed, but only lets me run benchmarks on the internal dGPU Radeon Pro Vega 64 not the eGPU Radeon VII.
So, as of right now, it doesn't appear the AMD Radeon VII drivers via eGPU are functional in Mac OS X 10.14.4 beta 3.

This post was modified 8 months ago

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
OliverB
(@oliverb)
Noble Member
Joined: 12 months ago
 

I have a neighbour, a journalist, he might know something. Only problem: He's a drunk.
Do you think it's worth a try?

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680


ReplyQuote
(@arden_shibley)
Trusted Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 
Posted by: mwo21
So, as of right now, it doesn't appear the AMD Radeon VII drivers via eGPU are functional in Mac OS X 10.14.4 beta 3.

Thanks for the great update, I wish they'd stop beta-ing and go full release 😛

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


ReplyQuote
beppedessi
(@beppedessi)
Active Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

I am planning to buy a Radeon VII and I will wait for your updates!

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

I'm so disappointed.
The release version of 14.4.4 did not work to support my Radeon VII  using the helios 650 egpu from OWC on my iMac Pro.   Hot plugging the egpu caused a reboot.  Booting up with the Radeon VII plugged in does not cause a reboot, but the egpu shows up as a generic Radeon Vega.  The egpu with the Radeon VII is completely inactive.

If anyone with a different mac gets it working, I'd love to know.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
Robin_Martin
(@robin_martin)
Eminent Member
Joined: 7 months ago
 

Unfortunately, it’s not really a Mac or eGPU chassis issue. It’s just the macOS drivers for that card that we’re missing.

I’m in the same boat and now waiting to see what happens with 10.14.5 betas.

2018 MBP i9, 32GB, Vega 20; Razer Core X, Radeon VII


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

You're right.  I have to assume it won't work well until there is a Mac model shipping with the Radeon VII or similar card.  I'm guessing when the redesigned Mac Pro is released that the Radeon VII will be supported.  But, it's certainly frustrating to have to wait for months on end.   Apple's resistance to Nvidia is also more than frustrating.  Nvidia drivers for Mojave are being held up by Apple still.  My testing in my PC of the Radeon VII vs a 1080 Ti, the Radeon VII competes well.  I hope the redesigned Mac Pro actually does support an open architecture like old Mac Pros did.  Regards.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
(@andrew_flatt)
New Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 

Apparently,  it's working on 10.14.5 Beta now... can anyone test then I'll be on it with a Mac mini + EGPU + VII

https://egpu.io/forums/gpu-monitor-peripherals/radeon-vii-compatible-with-mac/paged/5/#post-57238

This post was modified 7 months ago

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

I just watched a youtube video that indicated the iMac Pro has an updated gpu option of Radeon Pro 64X that has many specs similar to the Radeon VII.  If true, it makes me wonder ever more why 10.14.4 doesn't work native.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
(@arden_shibley)
Trusted Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 

Y'all missing out. 

Here: https://egpu.io/forums/gpu-monitor-peripherals/radeon-vii-compatible-with-mac/paged/6/#post-57297

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


ReplyQuote
mac_editor
(@mac_editor)
Noble Member Moderator
Joined: 3 years ago
 
Posted by: mwo21

I just watched a youtube video that indicated the iMac Pro has an updated gpu option of Radeon Pro 64X that has many specs similar to the Radeon VII.  If true, it makes me wonder ever more why 10.14.4 doesn't work native.

Link? I don’t think it’s close to similar. The 64X is likely just higher clocked at the same 14nm architecture and slower HBM. Though this is a guesstimate on my part as well.

purge-wrangler.shpurge-nvda.shset-eGPU.shautomate-eGPU EFI Installer
2018 MacBook Pro 15" RP560X + Vega 64 (Mantiz Venus MZ-02)


ReplyQuote
Barretts
(@barretts)
New Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

OMG it works. Just installed the beta 10.14.5 Beta (public release). Currently, running it through the external monitor no issues yet. Will fire up Final Cut Pro and burn the s**t out of this card because I have been waiting too long for this day. Set up: Macbook Pro 13 (2018) + Razor Core X + Radeon 7. No software modification other than installing the 10.14.5 Beta and plugging in the egpu unit as you would have if you had the old supported cards (e.g. vega 64/56) . I can run some benchmarks and post if you guys are interested. Very stable so far. 

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
(@arden_shibley)
Trusted Member
Joined: 8 months ago
 
Posted by: Barretts

 I can run some benchmarks and post if you guys are interested. Very stable so far.

Hi yes plz can I order one restart and one Geekbench Compute to go?

2018 15" MBP, 2.6GHz 32GB 1TB Vega Pro 20, Razer Core X, AMD Radeon VII (Waiting for OS X Drivers), MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 Wave


ReplyQuote
OliverB
(@oliverb)
Noble Member
Joined: 12 months ago
 
Posted by: Arden Shibley
Posted by: Barretts

 I can run some benchmarks and post if you guys are interested. Very stable so far.

Hi yes plz can I order one restart and one Geekbench Compute to go?

A donut and a hot chocolote for me, pleeease.

2018 15" MBP & 2015 13" MBP connected to RTX2080Ti GTX1080Ti GTX1080 Vega56 RX580 R9-290 GTX680


ReplyQuote
zulg
 zulg
(@zulg)
Active Member
Joined: 7 months ago
 

I've just been putting it through its paces. I have a 2018 MBP 15" + Razer Core X. Seems very stable. I've been running PS + LR, playing various games that I have in Steam. MacOS functions like quicklook haven't cased any crashes either.

The benchmarks are...underwhelming.

Geekbench 4 got me 147080 (OpenCL), 135667 (Metal).
Valley scored :1626 (38.9 FPS, 27.0-53.5 min/max)
(1440p, x8 AA, Ultra)

However, the card also didn't seem like it was working very hard, so in my very unprofessional opinion, maybe the drivers aren't using the card very efficiently at this point? Geekbench 4 average scores on the main OpenCL chart pin the RVII over 200,00.

This post was modified 7 months ago

MBP 2018 15" - Razer Core X - Radeon RX580 (Radeon VII hopeful)


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

It works!  Just installed Mac OS X 10.14.5 beta 1.  The Radeon VII is recognized and does work.
I have an internal iGPU Radeon Pro Vega 64 = geekbench metal is about 179K
The eGPU with Radeon VII is geekbench metal about = 147K
The eGPU with RX Vega 64 is geekbench metal about = 141K

So, the overhead of the thunderbolt 3 seems substantial.   I've only just started testing.  But, I'm so happy that 10.14.5 now seems to support the Radeon VII.  Hopefully future updates will further optimize it.

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
mwo21
(@mwo21)
Active Member
Joined: 9 months ago
 

Here's Unigen Valley benchmarks.  Radeon VII seems to have an advantage here.  The Radeon Pro Vega 64 is the score of 2392 and the Radeon VII is the score of 3062.

Screen Shot 2019 04 02 at 8.36.53 PM
Screen Shot 2019 04 02 at 8.32.50 PM
This post was modified 7 months ago

Pending: Add my system information and expected eGPU configuration to my signature to give context to my posts


ReplyQuote
(@shen_lin)
Active Member
Joined: 1 year ago
 

The official 10.14.4 has been released and maybe you should try it out again.

Computer: MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
eGPU: AORUS GTX 1080 Gaming Box


ReplyQuote
Chippy McChipset
(@chippy-mcchipset)
Reputable Member
Joined: 2 years ago
 

Not supported on 10.14.4 but it probably will be on 10.14.5. The beta worked for me as well without any driver / kext hacks. Performance on Sonnet box was very good / comparable to above. 90+FPS Valley at 1080p (4x AA not 8x all else maxed). Compute benchmarks were impressive as well. Not 2080 Ti impressive, but good enough to not waste your time with other AMD cards if you're in the market for a new one.

Thunderbolt 3 Macs, Sonnet and OWC eGPUs, 4K Displays, etc


ReplyQuote