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However: if I connect a second display to the iGPU HDMI port, the boot screen appears on the HDMI display (the firmware seems to prefer it to eGPU) and the eGPU display is sleeping during boot. In this case the login screen appears normally on the eGPU (since in the OS this is selected as primary display) and there is no white screen of death! This is not a very practical setup however (I don't have a need for a secondary display permanently connected to iGPU).

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@steve4332 That’s a good point. I believe both @joevt and I have a smaller monitor connects to the iGPU. In my setup, the Boot Selector remains visible through the eGPU-connected monitor. What if you connect both HDMI and DisplayPort to your monitor? HDMI from iGPU and DisplayPort from eGPU. In Windows we can easily set to show one monitor only, I’m not sure if there’s an easy way to choose only eGPU screen in macOS.

 

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@steve4332 That's a good point. I believe both @joevt and I have a smaller monitor connects to the iGPU. In my setup, the Boot Selector remains visible through the eGPU-connected monitor. What if you connect both HDMI and DisplayPort to your monitor? HDMI from iGPU and DisplayPort from eGPU. In Windows we can easily set to show one monitor only, I'm not sure if there's an easy way to choose only eGPU screen in macOS.

 

I tried this. Unfortunatelly there is no way to disable a secondary display in MacOS. You can set it to mirror, but that affects resolutions and if I mirror the eGPU to iGPU it will result in a constant memcopy over TB3 and slows down the system considerably.

This finding however might be an indication that the white screen of death is related to the presence of the boot logo. If there is no boot logo (for whatever reason), then there is no white screen of death. @joevt 's finding seems to reinforce this.

The difference between the left and right two ports are interesting. I don't know how is it possible that for @joevt the port selection affects the white screen of death issue, on Vega it affects the presence of the preboot screen and in my case why is it that on the left two ports have progress bar while the other two don't.

This whole issue might indicate that probably as a cost saving initiative Apple hired a monkey to do the firmware coding for the 2018 Mac Mini. The monkey accomplishes this task by punching his keyboard in a random manner while giving out wild cries demanding more bananas. * 🙂

 

* If the mentioned coder reads this comment, I would like to clarify that this comment of mine is meant to be humorous and of course I hold every firmware programmer in high regard and I consider the Mac Mini firmware to be the pinnacle of the science of coding! 😉

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This would essentially indicate that the eGPU bootscreen support is still work-in-progress. Otherwise Apple would have updated their document regarding Mac mini eGPU support here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208544

Notable though is that their recommendation for Mac mini only applies if FileVault is on, but white screen issue occurs even without FileVault. Hopefully we see a resolution by 10.15.3 at least. Typically around the .4 release Apple plans to bring some more significant under-the-hood changes (and sometimes these changes are split between the .4 and .5 releases).

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I seem to have fixed my issues - booted into recovery mode and turned on full system / startup disk protection (it had been turned off previously when I was playing with boot options). Seems to boot into Catalina with the egpu connected just fine now...

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I feel bad for asking this, because its prob in the first post and I've just missed it, but...

Does 10.15 effect things like rEFInd and EFI Bootloader? Think I saw somewhere the EFI Bootloader needs updating to boot into windows, but what about rEFInd? Seen it works in Catalina on Macs with Linux but no mention of eGPUs...

 

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Posted by: @shad0wca7

I seem to have fixed my issues - booted into recovery mode and turned on full system / startup disk protection (it had been turned off previously when I was playing with boot options). Seems to boot into Catalina with the egpu connected just fine now...

Are you using a Mac mini and RX570/580?

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Posted by: @shad0wca7

I seem to have fixed my issues - booted into recovery mode and turned on full system / startup disk protection (it had been turned off previously when I was playing with boot options). Seems to boot into Catalina with the egpu connected just fine now...

Are you using a Mac mini and RX570/580?

Turning on full security (it was medium) did not fix the white screen of death problem. 🙁

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Posted by: @shad0wca7

I seem to have fixed my issues - booted into recovery mode and turned on full system / startup disk protection (it had been turned off previously when I was playing with boot options). Seems to boot into Catalina with the egpu connected just fine now...

Are you using a Mac mini and RX570/580?

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Hey all! Just wanted to report that I'm on Mac Pro 5,1 (Late-2013 "trash can") and my eGPU is not working with Catalina. It was working fine in High Sierra. Setup is Sapphire RX580 and Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box. Hoping Apple will release an update to fix things up as my company just bought this a few months ago to breathe new life into my aging Mac as opposed to having to buy an entirely new system. 🙁

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@cpokrywka You need to run Purge-Wrangler script again to enable eGPU on the 2013 Mac Pro 6,1 which is Thunderbolt 2.

 

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I've tried it about three times now. Have even tried a full uninstall and reinstall to no avail. Thought it might be related to others here saying that the RX570/580 is having issues with Catalina.

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What version of Catalina are you running? Please also share build number.

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@mac_editor It wasn't working for me with the initial 10.15 mass release build and still isn't working with the latest supplemental update. Using purge-wrangler. Native graphics are Dual AMD FirePro D300 2GB. Have tried plugging the cable into all ports and nothing. Enclosure powers up when I turn on my Mac but nothing is displayed on my Cinema Display nor my external monitor just black screens.

 

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The initial release of Catalina is definitely supported, so I’m not sure what’s going on with your particular setup. I cannot say about the supplemental update.

Edit: Supplemental update is also supported. Please share logs of script run (take screenshot at every question asked), share screenshots of System Report > Displays and PCI section with eGPU connected. I also assume that the card is appropriately powered (all power cables plugged) and assembled. 

Also add your config. to your signature.

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I know there won‘t be Good News but maybe Beta 2 of .1 fixes White Screen of Death?

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Not sure if beta 2 fixed my boot screen for my mac mini with a Razer Core X + Radeon VII but i also followed @itsage instructions of using controller #1 (Port 4) instead of controller #0.

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@juan_c_yunis Can you clarify your boot screen struggle? Was it not showing through the eGPU-connected monitor? I believe 10.15.1 Dev Beta 2 has nothing to do with it.

 

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I was getting a black screen with a Razer core x + Radeon VII, my monitor detected an input like signal but no output at all, the only way i was able to boot was with iGPU connected too. And I read that you had trouble using controller #0 (Port 1 and 2) so i disconnected the eGPU and connected it in controller #1 (Port 4) and applied the update and when it finished i was able to boot with the eGPU alone. Not sure if the problem was the controller or if the beta fixed something for me. I read that this beta added support for Navi 5700, so maybe they did something for bootscreen too.

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It was TB3 controller-related. I found that out when I was using an older macOS 10.15 version. It’s also possible that the Radeon VII was the only card to behave that way on the 2018 Mac mini.

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I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013) and I''ve been using PurgeWrangler since the Mojave, however after updating to Catalina version 10.15 (19A602), it appears that my eGPU works without PurgeWrangler! (PurgeWrangler continues to pop up after restarting alerting that my settings have been reset and asks me if I want to reconfigure; I've been hitting "No," because everything appears to be working and I wanted to ask the community's opinion.)

I have a Razor Core X, with a Radeon RX 580, connected via my Thunderbolt 2 ports. 

Has anyone else experience this? System details below:

Thunderbolt Bus:

  Vendor Name:  Apple Inc.
  Device Name:  MacBook Pro
  UID:  0x0001000F02215900
  Route String: 0
  Firmware Version: 17.2
  Domain UUID:  E0EE2631-4D4C-EF50-99E0-E56AC1CEF68C
  Port:
  Status: Device connected
  Link Status:  0x2
  Speed:  Up to 20 Gb/s x1
  Current Link Width: 0x2
  Receptacle: 1
  Cable Firmware Version: 1.0.16
  Cable Serial Number:  C4M914201JGF798AX
  Link Controller Firmware Version: 0.11.0
  Port:
  Status: Device connected
  Link Status:  0x2
  Speed:  Up to 20 Gb/s x1
  Current Link Width: 0x2
  Receptacle: 2
  Cable Firmware Version: 1.0.16
  Cable Serial Number:  C4M914202PFF798AG
  Link Controller Firmware Version: 0.11.0

TS3 Plus:

  Vendor Name:  CalDigit, Inc.
  Device Name:  TS3 Plus
  Vendor ID:  0x3D
  Device ID:  0x11
  Device Revision:  0x1
  UID:  0x003D9D3FA8C8AC00
  Route String: 1
  Firmware Version: 35.1
  Port (Upstream):
  Status: Device connected
  Link Status:  0x2
  Speed:  Up to 20 Gb/s x1
  Current Link Width: 0x2
  Cable Firmware Version: 1.0.16
  Cable Serial Number:  C4M914201JGF798AX
  Link Controller Firmware Version: 0.36.0
  Port:
  Status: No device connected
  Link Status:  0x7
  Speed:  Up to 40 Gb/s x1
  Current Link Width: 0x1
  Link Controller Firmware Version: 0.36.0

Core X:

  Vendor Name:  Razer
  Device Name:  Core X
  Vendor ID:  0x127
  Device ID:  0x1
  Device Revision:  0x1
  UID:  0x01279CC9B0482200
  Route String: 3
  Firmware Version: 33.1
  Port (Upstream):
  Status: Device connected
  Link Status:  0x2
  Speed:  Up to 20 Gb/s x1
  Current Link Width: 0x2
  Cable Firmware Version: 1.0.16
  Cable Serial Number:  C4M914202PFF798AG
  Link Controller Firmware Version: 0.35.0
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Could you share screenshot of purge-wrangler System Status as well as System Report > Displays and System Report > PCI with eGPU connected?

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Graphics/Displays
----------------
Intel Iris:

  Chipset Model:	Intel Iris
  Type:	GPU
  Bus:	Built-In
  VRAM (Dynamic, Max):	1536 MB
  Vendor:	Intel
  Device ID:	0x0a2e
  Revision ID:	0x0009
  Metal:	Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily1 v4

Radeon RX 580:

  Chipset Model:	Radeon RX 580
  Type:	External GPU
  PCIe Lane Width:	x4
  VRAM (Total):	8 GB
  Vendor:	AMD (0x1002)
  Device ID:	0x67df
  Revision ID:	0x00e7
  Metal:	Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily1 v4
  GPU is Removable:	Yes
  Displays:
LG HDR 4K:
  Resolution:	6720 x 3780
  UI Looks like:	3360 x 1890 @ 60 Hz
  Framebuffer Depth:	30-Bit Color (ARGB2101010)
  Main Display:	Yes
  Mirror:	Off
  Online:	Yes
  Rotation:	Supported
  Automatically Adjust Brightness:	No
  Connection Type:	DisplayPort


PCI
----------------
ethernet:

  Type:	Ethernet Controller
  Driver Installed:	Yes
  Tunnel Compatible:	Yes
  Pause Compatible:	Yes
  MSI:	Yes
  Bus:	PCI
  Slot:	Thunderbolt@10,0,0
  Vendor ID:	0x8086
  Device ID:	0x1533
  Subsystem Vendor ID:	0x1ab6
  Subsystem ID:	0x0214
  Revision ID:	0x0003
  Link Width:	x1
  Link Speed:	2.5 GT/s

pci1b21,1242:

  Type:	USB eXtensible Host Controller
  Driver Installed:	Yes
  Tunnel Compatible:	Yes
  Pause Compatible:	Yes
  MSI:	Yes
  Bus:	PCI
  Slot:	Thunderbolt@11,0,0
  Vendor ID:	0x1b21
  Device ID:	0x1242
  Subsystem Vendor ID:	0x1ab6
  Subsystem ID:	0x1143
  Revision ID:	0x0000
  Link Width:	x1
  Link Speed:	8.0 GT/s

pci1b73,1100:

  Type:	USB eXtensible Host Controller
  Driver Installed:	Yes
  Tunnel Compatible:	Yes
  Pause Compatible:	Yes
  MSI:	Yes
  Bus:	PCI
  Slot:	Thunderbolt@12,0,0
  Vendor ID:	0x1b73
  Device ID:	0x1100
  Subsystem Vendor ID:	0x1ab6
  Subsystem ID:	0x1105
  Revision ID:	0x0010
  Link Width:	x1
  Link Speed:	5.0 GT/s

pci1b73,1100:

  Type:	USB eXtensible Host Controller
  Driver Installed:	Yes
  Tunnel Compatible:	Yes
  Pause Compatible:	Yes
  MSI:	Yes
  Bus:	PCI
  Slot:	Thunderbolt@13,0,0
  Vendor ID:	0x1b73
  Device ID:	0x1100
  Subsystem Vendor ID:	0x1ab6
  Subsystem ID:	0x1106
  Revision ID:	0x0010
  Link Width:	x1
  Link Speed:	5.0 GT/s

pci1002,aaf0:

  Type:	Audio Device
  Driver Installed:	Yes
  Tunnel Compatible:	Yes
  Pause Compatible:	No
  MSI:	Yes
  Bus:	PCI
  Slot:	Thunderbolt@196,0,1
  Vendor ID:	0x1002
  Device ID:	0xaaf0
  Subsystem Vendor ID:	0x1da2
  Subsystem ID:	0xaaf0
  Revision ID:	0x0000
  Link Width:	x4
  Link Speed:	8.0 GT/s

Radeon RX 580:

  Name:	ATY,Orinoco
  Type:	Display Controller
  Driver Installed:	Yes
  Tunnel Compatible:	Yes
  Pause Compatible:	No
  MSI:	Yes
  Bus:	PCI
  Slot:	Thunderbolt@196,0,0
  Vendor ID:	0x1002
  Device ID:	0x67df
  Subsystem Vendor ID:	0x1da2
  Subsystem ID:	0xe353
  Revision ID:	0x00e7
  Link Width:	x4
  Link Speed:	8.0 GT/s

 

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(Edit: Just noticing it looks like it's still enabled after the update!?)

Sorry about that, here's purge-wrangler:

>> PurgeWrangler (6.0.1)

1. Setup eGPU
2. System Status
3. Uninstall
4. Recovery

5. More Options
6. Donate
7. Quit

>> System Status

Ti82 Devices Disabled
TB1/2 AMD eGPUs Enabled
Legacy AMD eGPUs Disabled
NVIDIA eGPUs Disabled
Web Drivers Absent

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Thank you for sharing. Clearly the patch is active, hence your eGPU is working. Are you still getting a notification every time you boot? Can you share contents of the following file: /Library/Application Support/Purge-Wrangler/io.egpu.purge-wrangler.config.plist

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Yep, you're right, and I just noticed it's still enabled (:facepalm:), sorry for the runaround. I'll check again after I reboot and share those details with you.

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No worries and thanks for the quick response! If you are still getting a notification from the script after reboot pls share a screenshot of that along with the file I requested above so I can debug.

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Just rebooted and the dialog popped up again, and I clicked on "No" again. (Took a screenshot, too, but can't attach here. Edit: attached.)

more io.egpu.purge-wrangler.config.plist 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>DidApplyBinPatch</key>
<true/>
<key>DidApplyPatchNVDAWebDrv</key>
<false/>
<key>OSBuildAtPatch</key>
<string>19A583</string>
<key>OSVersionAtPatch</key>
<string>10.15</string>
</dict>
</plist>
io.egpu.purge-wrangler.config.plist (END)

 

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Thanks for sharing. So I presume you ran the patch on macOS 10.15 (19A583), then installed supplemental update which made the build (19A602), and system is already patched? Usually any sort of updates disable patches. I shall investigate more thoroughly. For now, you can disable the notification by choosing “Never” next time it pops up. I will hopefully be able to incorporate a fix for this issue in the upcoming v6.0.3 release. For tracking/logging purposes, I request that you file an issue on the purge-wrangler github page if you have time (though I have it noted in my personal notes anyway!).

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Yep, that's exactly the series of events. I'll submit the issue on Github now. Thanks for taking a look! And also, great work on purge-wrangler

Edit: Github issue filed: https://github.com/mayankk2308/purge-wrangler/issues/36

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Thought I'd chime in here now I have had a few days on my set up since upgrading.

The new firmware defo changed the way TB3 works in Bootcamp. My egpu works and is detected just fine using rEFInd (EFI Bootloader didn't work) but I have to hot plug my Ultrafine pretty much. Its not consistent. One boot it will be ok, one it will be blank and I have to unplug and replug. Have had it go blank a couple of times during gaming too. I'm thinking it really is time changed display.

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@mac_editor This is absolutely unacceptable. I thought my 2013 Mac Pro firmware was corrupted due to the commonly known failing dGPUs and the mix of unsupported eGPU and beta software. As you had followed my EFI corruption saga from start to finish, it was not straight forward to determine the cause. The support staff at the Apple Store won’t be able to help because none were trained to perform such repair. The fix was the solderless chip then clean install of the appropriate macOS version. Very sad to see how bad their QA has become.

 

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Indeed. In one link it was mentioned that the Genius Bar diagnosed it as a hardware issue unrelated to the software update. As with your scenario, we guesstimated a lot of possibilities, so diagnosis in this situation is very difficult, compounding the problem. Of note is the fact that this bricking is occurring on older macs (pre-2015). After Yosemite, all odd-numbered releases have been problematic QA-wise IMO.

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Wow... this is just horrendous...  My 2016" MBP was the first one that I updated, no issue there.  I think I updated my wife's 2013 Macbook Air after that and that too didn't have any issues.  My Mac mini is the only one that is still on Mojave, and I guess I'll keep it that way...  I'll double check the MBA again, but I do believe I did update.

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