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LorenzoH
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November 29, 2018 6:27 am  

Is anyone having an issue with their gfx card not being read? Im on mojave, using an akitio node with an rx 580 with a late 2016 15' macbook pro but can't get tit to read or come up or read?

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December 8, 2018 1:48 pm  

Hi,

I have brought a AORUS Gaming Box (without the 1080) for my 2017 MBP 13 base line. I believed MSI Radeon RX 560 Aero ITX can be used with this enclosure. I am waiting both to be arrived next week. So, basically all I need to do is to install EFI automate-eGPU solution by Goalque, and I am good to go?Am I right? I can't with to play some DOTA 2 with max settings!

 

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December 8, 2018 5:54 pm  

Hi 
I have a 2017 13 inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar running Mac OS Mojave and I am planning to buy an eGpu specially for gaming on bootcamp. I might also use it for some video editing purposes in Mac OS. Right now I am stuck between the Aorus gtx 1070 gaming box and Gigabyte rx580 gaming box. Is the Aorus gaming box just plug and play on bootcamp ? (After installing the drivers) I have heard people having problems with their Nvidia egpus in bootcamp after updating to Mojave. I know the rx 580 will be plug and play in Mojave and therefore I consider buying it and save the hassle. If the gtx 1070 will work on bootcamp without any complicated steps, please let me know, because this is gonna be the deciding factor.
Thanks 

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December 9, 2018 10:17 am  

@Eddiexx, I also have that same MSI card.  As of 10.14.1 the RX560 is natively supported for EGPUs.  Everything should be plug and play.

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December 25, 2018 3:22 am  

Hey, question:

(I'm going to be very specific in this question)
How can I play CSGO in Mojave 10.14.2 with the Blackmagic eGPU pro? (Non bootcamp)
WITH a Samsung U28E590D monitor (Im wondering if I can game on the external monitor) Through the HDMI 2.0 (4k 60Hz)
I heard that eGPUs dont work with steam??
Please get back to me ASAP!

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December 25, 2018 5:50 am  

I was told yesterday by a Genius tech at an Apple Store that I could use the new eGPU Blackmagic Pro with a Thunderbolt 3-to-2 adapter and significantly speed up times in FCPX on my Mac Pro 2013.

Thoughts?

LC

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December 27, 2018 7:06 pm  
Posted by: L C

I was told yesterday by a Genius tech at an Apple Store that I could use the new eGPU Blackmagic Pro with a Thunderbolt 3-to-2 adapter and significantly speed up times in FCPX on my Mac Pro 2013.

Thoughts?

LC

not natively support.

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December 27, 2018 11:47 pm  

Thanks.

L C

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December 28, 2018 2:54 am  

@l-c While Apple does not provide native eGPU support for non-Thunderbolt 3 Macs, our community has solutions to enable eGPU feature on most Thunderbolt Macs including the trashcan. The quickest way to get start is @Mac_editor's Purge-Wrangler. Hardware-wise, I'd recommend an RX Vega 56. You can pair it with a wide-range of enclosure. The best matching enclosure to the Mac Pro's quiet operation would be the ASUS XG Station Pro. This is my build with the 2013 Mac Pro + RX Vega 56 eGPU from last year. For reference FCPX BruceX went from 24s with the pair of D500s to 13s with eGPU added to the mix.

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December 28, 2018 5:55 pm  

Thanks theitsage!

Did you see an appreciable change to your processing speed?

I'll check it out.

L C

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January 6, 2019 5:41 am  

My computer freezes upon hotplugging my RX 580 to my MBP. The eGPU icon shows up at the top of the screen before everything freezes. Unplugging the eGPU causes my system to crash and reboot.

Has anyone else experienced a similar issue? I'm running Mojave 10.14.2 on my 15" Late-2016 MBP with the Touch Bar.

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January 6, 2019 1:35 pm  

Some hope to get the drivers relatively quickly:

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January 6, 2019 1:52 pm  
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@aidan_kelly bad or faulty GPU.

Would it be? It's recognized in Device Manager when running Bootcamp. I've been strapped for time so I'm still working on solving Error 12 on that front.

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January 6, 2019 6:27 pm  

@aidan_kelly had the same issue myself. Windows isn’t crashing as the GPU is not initialized (due to Error 12). If there was no Error 12 I would expect the system to freeze or crash. Best to test more or simply put it in a PC to check. 

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January 6, 2019 6:37 pm  
Posted by: Aidan Kelly
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@aidan_kelly bad or faulty GPU.

Would it be? It's recognized in Device Manager when running Bootcamp. I've been strapped for time so I'm still working on solving Error 12 on that front.

Another potential issue would be badly seated GPU in the PCI slot.
I had this happen with my RTX.

Try re-seating your GPU.

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January 6, 2019 8:52 pm  

@jangoloti The wording of that response makes it sound they are working on native macOS drivers in upcoming 10.14.3+ for Macs that have Nvidia dGPUs. I'm hopeful there will be Nvidia Web drivers for Mojave. However GTX 900 series compatible drivers took seven months and GTX 1000 series took 11 months. There was no public dispute back then so I highly doubt RTX series compatible drivers will be available in Q1 2019.

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January 6, 2019 9:40 pm  

@itsage Past releases indicate that most major under-the-hood changes occur at the initial big macOS update and .4 update (since El Capitan). The earliest we may see something could be 10.14.4. Which is months away really. For the last few years I have kept a close eye on macOS build number patterns and the .4 release usually has a high intermediate build number (value after the letter, excluding special releases such as security updates and some betas that have an additional number appended, ex. for iOS; Troubleshooting guide has a brief breakdown of the build numbers), meaning much longer development (almost twice as long assuming linearity). And if NVIDIA pulls it off for 10.14.3 then great for all of us.

Also, I recall one of the forum members emailing NVIDIA for 10 series drivers. They were initially not planning to develop any, but then did after reading it. That may explain the delay there.

Finally, if Apple and NVIDIA are working together, they might as well add full-on eGPU support for NVIDIA. It's really not that difficult. Today we have issues with AMD+NVIDIA frame buffers - this wasn't the case on Sierra. Funny.

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January 6, 2019 9:49 pm  
Posted by: Jyin

Another potential issue would be badly seated GPU in the PCI slot.
I had this happen with my RTX.

Try re-seating your GPU.

J

This could be the case and makes for good troubleshooting.

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January 10, 2019 9:27 pm  

I am on OSX Mojave 10.14.2. Still waiting on support for OSX Side, however; here is my results for Bootcamp side with Windows 10:

- MacBook Pro 2017 4 USB-C ports
- Razer Core V2 with Nvidia RTX 2080

When booting into Windows, you have to plug in the eGPU right when you see the windows logo. Then everything works just fine and it plays every game I have with no issues (Fortnite, OverWatch, Call of Duty Black Ops 4, etc).

Just in case anyone else was curious about this type of setup. Mojave shouldn't break Bootcamp. 🙂 I can't wait for support though on the OSX Side. 🙂

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January 11, 2019 2:03 pm  
Posted by: benip2140
Posted by: L C

I was told yesterday by a Genius tech at an Apple Store that I could use the new eGPU Blackmagic Pro with a Thunderbolt 3-to-2 adapter and significantly speed up times in FCPX on my Mac Pro 2013.

Thoughts?

LC

not natively support.

I am far from familiar with eGPUs, but this seems to have worked for at least this guy:   https://postperspective.com/review-using-egpu-apple-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-2/

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January 11, 2019 3:38 pm  

@j_m the user in that article uses macOS 10.13.3 - outdated even though the article is fairly recent. Since macOS 10.13.4+, purge-wrangler is necessary on TB1/2 Macs, hence it is not natively supported anymore.

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January 11, 2019 4:34 pm  
Posted by: eaglejs

I am on OSX Mojave 10.14.2. Still waiting on support for OSX Side, however; here is my results for Bootcamp side with Windows 10:

- MacBook Pro 2017 4 USB-C ports
- Razer Core V2 with Nvidia RTX 2080

When booting into Windows, you have to plug in the eGPU right when you see the windows logo. Then everything works just fine and it plays every game I have with no issues (Fortnite, OverWatch, Call of Duty Black Ops 4, etc).

Just in case anyone else was curious about this type of setup. Mojave shouldn't break Bootcamp. 🙂 I can't wait for support though on the OSX Side. 🙂

Are you on a 13 or 15inch MBP? And if 13 fancy sharing some FPS benchmarks in games?

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January 13, 2019 8:58 am  

--the itsage

Just to confirm, will the eGPU you propose work under Mojave 10.14.2?

LC

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January 19, 2019 10:06 am  

Does not look good.

Here you are:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/18/apples-management-doesnt-want-nvidia-support-in-macos-and-thats-a-bad-sign-for-the-mac-pro

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January 19, 2019 5:46 pm  

--jangoloti

Thanks for the response. Very informative... and a bummer.

LC

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January 28, 2019 9:15 pm  

I have read a loads of forum threads, and tutorials, you guys did a really great job, but the more I read the more I became frustrated  😛
I have a 2016 macbook pro 15"
What is an ideal enclosure and graphics card for me to use it in bootcamp and mac os too (gaming on win, coding on mac)?
I have Mojave, and I always was an NVIDA "supporter".
I can buy a Razer Core V0.1 or a devilbox for 330$ in Hungary, but as far as I know neither of them is fully compatible with mac!
I'm thinking about other enclosures too, can you help, with the current Mojave+Win which is the best?
Favored graphics card is: gtx 1080, but support is a big deal here too.

I can't choose, can you help me? 🙂  🙁

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January 29, 2019 11:24 pm  

Hi, I have OS X El Capitan 10.11.6 running on a late 2014 Mac mini, attached to that a custom built eGpu with an ATI Radeon HD 5000 2048 MB (Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity Edition (GV-R5876P-2GD-B) 2 GB GDDR5) and 6 screens attached to it via Mini DP.
It was a lot of work and as regards OS settings / driver modifications, I cannot remember anymore how exactly I did it (2 or 3 years ago). Something with an identification string which I had to inject into a file inside the driver, but that's been too far in the past, sorry. And the 500 entries in the command line history aren't enough either. It's working flawlessly though.
I'm scared to update to OSX Mojave as I've heard that it only TB3 is supported.
Can anyone point me to the answers of the following questions?

  1. How can I gather the necessary information in order to redo the configuration (let's say under El Capitan) which allows me my current setup? I'd like to post-document everything
  2. How can I find out, which driver is currently being used?
  3. If I update and replay what I did so far then under OSX Mojave, will this setup work again?
  4. If the solution is only a newer Mac with TB3, what Graphics adapter with what eGpu can I use in order to serve 6 screens again?

Thanks in advance for your patience with me 🙂

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January 29, 2019 11:49 pm  

@wondermike The Radeon 5870 does not support Metal. It won't work on Mojave. Originally, the driver responsible for this GPU was the AMD5000Controller, which is absent in Mojave. You might be able get it going on High Sierra. I recommend testing on a separate installation first. You will require purge-wrangler or automate-eGPU EFI.

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January 30, 2019 12:42 am  
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@wondermike The Radeon 5870 does not support Metal. It won't work on Mojave. Originally, the driver responsible for this GPU was the AMD5000Controller, which is absent in Mojave. You might be able get it going on High Sierra. I recommend testing on a separate installation first. You will require purge-wrangler or automate-eGPU EFI.

I wouldn't have too much expectation. I have tried several Vintage AMD chips on High Sierra and everything older than Tahiti (HD 7870, which works perfectly thanks to purge-wrangler on Mojave and HighSierra, using it right now) just doesn't work, e.g. HD 7770 (Cape Verde) doesn't work, nor does 5850, 5670 or 4850. I haven't tried the 5870 yet, so this maybe be interesting.

Edit: If 5870 chip is Cypress like 5850 or 5830, it won't work.

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January 30, 2019 12:49 am  

Perhaps this may be interestaing: I have a table here of what is working and what is not working from personal experiences:

  Chip Native Mojave  High Sierra OpenCL
Radeon Vega 56 gfx900 ****      
Radeon RX 580 Ellesmere ****      
Radeon R9 Nano Fiji   ***    
Radeon HD 7870 Tahiti   ***    
GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GP102     **  
GeForce GTX 1080 GP104     **  
GeForce GTX 1050 GP107     **  
GeForce GTX 980 Ti GM200     **  
GeForce GTX 780 GK110   ***    
GeForce GTX 770 GK104   ***    
GeForce GTX 680 GK104   ***    
GeForce GTX 660 GK104   ***    
GeForce GT 740 GK107   ***    
GeForce GTX 570 GF110       *
GeForce GTX 465 GF100       *
Quadro 4000 GF100       *
           
Does not work:          
GeForce RTX 2080 Ti TU102       ?
GeForce GT 640 Fermi GF116       ?
GeForce GTS 450 GF106       ?
GeForce GT 430 GF108       ?
GeForce GTX 285 GT200        
GeForce GTS 250 G92        
GeForce GT 240 GT215        
GeForce 310/Ion GT218        
GeForce 9500 GT G96        
GeForce 8500 GT G86        
Radeon R9 290 Hawaii        
Radeon HD 7770 Cape Verde      
Radeon HD 6950/6970 Cayman        
Radeon HD 5830/5850 Cypress        
Radeon HD 5670 Redwood        
FirePro 3800 Redwood        
Radeon HD 4850 RV770        
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January 30, 2019 12:53 am  

@oliverB I noticed that in AMDLegacySupport that purge-wrangler installs, there is no override for controllers older than the 7000 series. Perhaps automate-eGPU EFI will work (uses different mechanism for older AMD cards). I could add the keys for the older controllers, but do not have a way to test those.

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January 30, 2019 12:59 am  
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@oliverB I noticed that in AMDLegacySupport that purge-wrangler installs, there is no override for controllers older than the 7000 series. Perhaps automate-eGPU EFI will work (uses different mechanism for older AMD cards). I could add the keys for the older controllers, but do not have a way to test those.

I have tried with @goalque's solutions,  too (both USB-Flashdrive and installation), but there was no difference to purge-wrangler for the GPUs I have tried. I still have most of the GPUs in this table, so I can try again for a particular one, if you want.

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January 30, 2019 1:05 am  
Posted by: OliverB

I have tried with @goalque's solutions,  too (both USB-Flashdrive and installation), but there was no difference to purge-wrangler for the GPUs I have tried. I still have most of the GPUs in this table, so I can try again for a particular one, if you want.

Not sure what you mean by that. Did you use them together? Or do you mean there was no difference in comparison to purge-wrangler?

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January 30, 2019 1:11 am  

@oliverb I'll send you a kext to try once I have some time. I have to scour into my old backups for a High Sierra install to examine some things. If you're up for some testing and have a High Sierra installation handy, that is.

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January 30, 2019 1:15 am  
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I have tried with @goalque's solutions,  too (both USB-Flashdrive and installation), but there was no difference to purge-wrangler for the GPUs I have tried. I still have most of the GPUs in this table, so I can try again for a particular one, if you want.

Not sure what you mean by that. Did you use them together? Or do you mean there was no difference in comparison to purge-wrangler?

Not at the same time. Let's take any of the non-working AMD GPUs.

I started with the @goalque's USB-Flashdrive, as I like to use it when using nVidia chips. It didn't work. Then I installed automated-egpu.kexts. It didn't work. Then I installed purge-wrangler, enabled Legacy AMD support. It didn't work. E.g. For "Cape Verde" the installation of automated-egpu.kext says it doesn't support the chip, which is a good thing, of course.

Fiji and Tahiti worked immediately with purge-wrangler. They were the only vintage AMD chips that have worked so far.
I must say that there are must more old nVidia cards that work, at least you can do some OpenCL and funny things.

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