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OldMac
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Morning lads,

Has anyone tried the high Sierra beta with older (tb1/tb2) Macs? I'm on a 2011 MacBook pro 15, i7 2635QM upgraded to 16gb ram, and will be getting an egpu chassis soon to use with my old gtx780, and I'm hoping someone has tried the beta with a similar machine just so I know if I can hope for native support.

-Joe

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deplomb
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I would be interested as well

MBP mid 2012 unibody
2,3GHz i7 / 16GB ram / NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 512 MB
currently running Akitio Thunder2 with GTX970 on Bootcamp and OSX

Feedback is very much appreciated

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igerard
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I use also a 2011 model with my egpu

In our case, for sure it doesn't work, we would need an AMD card first to test

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jonwatso
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Here is a video my friend made running his TB1 Mac with high sierra. However for proper native support you will need to go with AMD

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itsage
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Thank you for the confirmation @jonwatso. The current state of 10.13 would allow plug-and-play for all Thunderbolt Macs as long as the eGPU enclosure has TI83 controller paired with AMD PCI ID 67DF (RX 470/480/570/580).

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OldMac
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That's great news. In that case, I'll probably sell my 780 and buy a 580, although it wouldn't surprise me if the supported gpu list becomes larger when high Sierra is released.

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Posted by: itsage

Thank you for the confirmation @jonwatso. The current state of 10.13 would allow plug-and-play for all Thunderbolt Macs as long as the eGPU enclosure has TI83 controller paired with AMD PCI ID 67DF (RX 470/480/570/580).

Plus the video shows it working with a Thunder2 enclosure, which doesn't have a TI83 controller ... but I don't know how reliably Thunder2 works with newer TB3 macs, even before High Sierra ...

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Thank you for the fast feedback.

 

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Posted by: itsage

Thank you for the confirmation @jonwatso. The current state of 10.13 would allow plug-and-play for all Thunderbolt Macs as long as the eGPU enclosure has TI83 controller paired with AMD PCI ID 67DF (RX 470/480/570/580).

Thats a very important peace of information for future setups. Thank you!
Do we know which enclosures come with the TI83controller?

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Posted by: itsage

Thank you for the confirmation @jonwatso. The current state of 10.13 would allow plug-and-play for all Thunderbolt Macs as long as the eGPU enclosure has TI83 controller paired with AMD PCI ID 67DF (RX 470/480/570/580).

Unfortunately, I need to disagree. The early 2013 15" MBP's for example are guaranteed NOT to work ATM. See for example:

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/apple-is-supporting-external-gpus-with-high-sierra/paged/6/#post-12759

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/apple-is-supporting-external-gpus-with-high-sierra/paged/3/#post-12389

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/apple-is-supporting-external-gpus-with-high-sierra/paged/4/#post-12525

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Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Do you know which firmware on the enclosure? 25.1 is what on the dev kit and latest version through AKiTiO for the Node.

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Posted by: itsage

Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Do you know which firmware on the enclosure? 25.1 is what on the dev kit and latest version through AKiTiO for the Node.

I have the January one - it's what the enclosure came with. I can't upgrade as I couldn't make my Windows 10 see it on my early 2013 MBP.

However, exactly the same enclosure + TB2 adapter + Sapphire RX480 works just fine with the 2015 15".

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great new for the 2011 models, I am going to buy an AMD 580 then... keeping the 980 Ti for Cuda when I need it... 

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Posted by: Menneisyys
Posted by: itsage

Thank you for the confirmation @jonwatso. The current state of 10.13 would allow plug-and-play for all Thunderbolt Macs as long as the eGPU enclosure has TI83 controller paired with AMD PCI ID 67DF (RX 470/480/570/580).

Unfortunately, I need to disagree. The early 2013 15" MBP's for example are guaranteed NOT to work ATM. See for example:

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/apple-is-supporting-external-gpus-with-high-sierra/paged/6/#post-12759

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/apple-is-supporting-external-gpus-with-high-sierra/paged/3/#post-12389

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/apple-is-supporting-external-gpus-with-high-sierra/paged/4/#post-12525

since my 15" late 2013 isn't working as well, i guess this has to do with the internal GT650M or GT750M...

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Just to confirm what Daelin just posted above: 15" Macbook Pro late 2013 doesn't detect the Dev Kit that Apple just started selling (Sonnet 350 + AMD 580). The Sonnet box is detected, but nothing for the video card. That's on High Sierra Beta 3.

Works like a charm in bootcamp however.

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Daelin
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since i've read elsewhere that people with the mid 2014 modell and the GT750M have the same problems, my thesis seems to be correct.

i am wrong or was there a way to disable the dGPU completely? maybe this could fix the problem as a workaround...

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Posted by: madeofbits

Just to confirm what Daelin just posted above: 15" Macbook Pro late 2013 doesn't detect the Dev Kit that Apple just started selling (Sonnet 350 + AMD 580). The Sonnet box is detected, but nothing for the video card. That's on High Sierra Beta 3.

Works like a charm in bootcamp however.

So, it works straight away with Windows, without doing anything about error 12, and doing anything like DSDT??

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madeofbits
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Yeah, it worked straight away*

* it actually took a few minutes of Windows doing things in the background before I could use it however. It detected the card then downloaded some drivers and eventually, I had the "AMD Configuration Panel" option available. I'm not in bootcamp right now, so I can't say exactly which version of the OS I'm on, but it is the one before the Creator update I believe.

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Posted by: madeofbits

Yeah, it worked straight away*

* it actually took a few minutes of Windows doing things in the background before I could use it however. It detected the card then downloaded some drivers and eventually, I had the "AMD Configuration Panel" option available. I'm not in bootcamp right now, so I can't say exactly which version of the OS I'm on, but it is the one before the Creator update I believe.

But, being that way, I am pretty sure that maybe there were some changes at EFI level... otherwise it couldn't work straight away, I guess... maybe @nando or @itsage could answer that question!! Should be great not having the need to modify anything to make windows work!!

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im on a 2012 15" gt650m and it works, only thing with the adobe apps, i get black screens under heavy load  (full power connected to gtx 1070)

 

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Posted by: itsage

Thank you for the confirmation @jonwatso. The current state of 10.13 would allow plug-and-play for all Thunderbolt Macs as long as the eGPU enclosure has TI83 controller paired with AMD PCI ID 67DF (RX 470/480/570/580).

Unfortunately not the case at all. +1 @madeofbits: Mid-14 MBP 15" w/ 750M does not work w/ 67DF AMD on High Sierra at the moment (Beta 2).

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Still no change for Late-13 MBP w/ 750M on High Sierra for Beta 3, the video card is not detected but the Sonnet box is detected.

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Posted by: madeofbits

Still no change for Late-13 MBP w/ 750M on High Sierra for Beta 3, the video card is not detected but the Sonnet box is detected.

The latest available High Sierra build (17A291m) is Beta 2 (Update 1). At the time of writing there is no Beta 3.

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Great to hear things work in Bootcamp... I have found very little info about it believe it or not... might hunt out an AMD card for my 2017 MBP.

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Hi. I see the things for eGPU on Mac are getting better with High Sierra but can anybody confirm if there's any improvement with the bootcamp side?

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I can confirm the AMD Radeon RX460 4GB is recognized in macOS High Sierra Beta 4 (17A315i) on a MacBook Pro mid 2012 15", but shows black screen on external monitor via HDMI.

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mid-2012 15'' Macbook Pro GT650M + [email protected] (AKiTiO Thunder2) + macOS10.12 <-- no windows detection


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