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NCPFMP
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Dear all

I want to buy a gtx 980 ti while they still are in stock. However I missed out on the big EVGA had in the EU.

-I have heard that EVGA is the most mac friendly brand - is that true? or is to only when it comes to firmware flashing?

- is it a must to get a flashed card? ( I only want to use it for octane / cycles4d rendering )

Thanks in advance

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itsage
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No need to get a flashed card if your use is with an external enclosure. Even if you were to install a PC card in the older Mac Pro tower, the flashed card is not really worth it.

Regardless of brand, I'd recommend getting a reference cooler GTX 980 Ti if you can find one in stock. I've had four EVGA Nvidia GPUs and they all work well with Macs.

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NCPFMP
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ok, thanks

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It depends, usually I'd recommend getting an Nvidia card due to performance, and if you want to go down that route EVGA was the most reliable brand that I had with Nvidia. I used to run a Titan X with my 2013 15".

However with my 2016 MBP I was having horrible 4k playback (i.e. low frame rates and choppy playback), which was fixed by using an RX 480 instead. I am currently running an MSI 8gb RX 480 with my eGPU setup. Hoping the driver from 10.2.3 fixes it but I am not counting on it. It will however crash when using iMovie or FCP X 10.3 so if you like using those then I won't recommend this.

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NCPFMP
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thanks -

I need cuda power.

The d700s in my mac pro are great but of little use with gpu renders

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imcalledandy
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I have a nMP and will try a 980Ti too (EVGA brand). The Titan X didn't really work for me.

@NCPFMP - let us know how you get on.

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NCPFMP
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I will - just...it is really hard to get a hand on a evga gtx 980 ti here in eu...unless you want to pay almost €1000

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Wow - that's a lot! I got one from Amazon UK for ~£600 - I haven't tested it yet!

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NCPFMP
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you're right - placing an order right away 🙂

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frankpit
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Has anyone ever gotten a Titan X card (Maxwell) to work with an egpu enclosure, MacBook 2016 and Sierra?

MacBook 2016 15" w/ AMD 460
macOS Sierra 10.12.3
EVGA Titan X 12GB
Razer Core

I ran goalque's script (thank you!) and it recognizes the Razer Core but not the Titan.

I ordered a Devil Box and ASUS RX480 (hey I need one at home and one at the office) but the card doesn't quite fit--I'll be magivering that and trying it next.

 

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frankpit
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So I replaced the Titan X in the Razer Core with the ASUS AMD RX480 and ran goalque's script again and it detected the RX480.

I need to clean up some things (like the card naming AMD R9 XXX) and then I'll run some tests.

I'll see if the Titan X fits in the Devil Box and crossing fingers that it's firmware allows OSX to see it.

 

 

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The Akitio Thunder2 sees the Titan X but OS X freezes on boot. That's been my experience anyway. 

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goalque
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Thanks for your reports. We have two Maxwell Titan X user here, seems that the nMP is not the culprit. It’s the card itself or Nvidia's web driver.

On macOS Sierra, Apple uses new system logging and the old syslog command with handy -B option doesn’t work anymore, so please try this in Terminal:

log show --last 10m | grep NVDA

What does it say when you boot with Titan X? (Assuming that you've logged in max 10 minutes ago, increase the value if necessary).

If it freezes on startup, please do SMC and NVRAM reset, and disable SIP in recovery mode first before executing the script.

automate-eGPU EFIapple_set_os.efi

Mid 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro eGPU Master Thread


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frankpit
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Thanks goalque!  I will come back to the Titan X soon and try your suggestions.

In the meantime, I have installed the AMD RX 480 with the Razer Core but I can't seem to get it display on an external monitor.

The egpu AMD 480, discrete AMD 460 and Intel all show up but only detects the MBP 2016's Retina display.

Also, if I reboot, it only shows me the embedded 460 and Intel video cards.  I have to unplug and hot-plug the egpu for it to detect it again.

Thoughts?  Am I missing something?

 
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@frankpit: Did you follow my script thread steps? You need an USB-C device with the AMD card. I don’t recommend binary hacks but I guess you need TB3 enabler script as well (not sure if it works on 10.12.3). Razer Core is not a future-proof solution on macOS.

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imcalledandy
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Hey @goalque I have a EVGA GTX 980 Ti FTW ACX 2.0+ 6GB to test with the Akitio Thunder2 / nMP now. You got a 980 Ti working, right?

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goalque
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Great! Smile I am looking forward to your results. Nope, I got the screenshot from my friend.

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frankpit
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goalque, I also installed the Titan X in the Devil Box instead and had the same result as when it was installed in the Razer Core.

Your script finds the Razer Core but says no GPU detected.

I also ran your log search (log show --last 10m | grep NVDA) but it didn't find anything.

Thoughts?

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imcalledandy
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Sounds like there's no power going to the card?!

what does it say in system information > thunderbolt?

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goalque
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The first step is to get it detected by the script - if it works, then you can use log command for troubleshooting, after restart.

Devil Box should be Mac compatible:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/17/powercolors-thunderbolt-3-devil-box-is-the-easiest-way-to-get-an-external-gpu-on-the-macbook-pro

EDIT:

FW 23.1 is not macOS compatible: https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/late-2013-mac-pro-setup-issues-macos-10-12-3/#post-2070

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frankpit
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@imcalledandy there is power to the card...I bought it (Razer Core + Titan X) off someone who had it working with a Razer laptop (on Windows 10)--so assume the card has enough power to it in both cases (Razer Core or Devil Box).

Here is what it says on my MBP 15" Late 2016 when I connect the Devil Box with the undetected Titan X in system information:

 

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goalque
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What's the exact output of the script? "Thunderbolt device is connected, but no external GPUs detected."?

If it's the above output, the script can't parse your GPU's device/vendor ids. Possible reasons:

1) Titan X shows them differently in system registry. I have to change the script.
2) Titan X is completely invisible to the system

What about command: system_profiler SPDisplaysDataType

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frankpit
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The output is exactly that ("Thunderbolt device is connected, but no external GPUs detected.").

This is the result of the command:

ystem_profiler SPDisplaysDataType

Graphics/Displays:

 

    Radeon Pro 460:

 

      Chipset Model: AMD Radeon Pro 460

      Type: GPU

      Bus: PCIe

      PCIe Lane Width: x8

      VRAM (Total): 4096 MB

      Vendor: ATI (0x1002)

      Device ID: 0x67ef

      Revision ID: 0x00c0

      ROM Revision: 113-C980AF-908

      Automatic Graphics Switching: Supported

      gMux Version: 4.0.29 [3.2.8]

      EFI Driver Version: 01.00.908

      Metal: Supported

 

    Intel HD Graphics 530:

 

      Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics 530

      Type: GPU

      Bus: Built-In

      VRAM (Dynamic, Max): 1536 MB

      Vendor: Intel (0x8086)

      Device ID: 0x191b

      Revision ID: 0x0006

      Automatic Graphics Switching: Supported

      gMux Version: 4.0.29 [3.2.8]

      Metal: Supported

      Displays:

        Color LCD:

          Display Type: Retina LCD

          Resolution: 2880 x 1800 Retina

          Retina: Yes

          Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

          Main Display: Yes

          Mirror: Off

          Online: Yes

          Automatically Adjust Brightness: No

          Built-In: Yes

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goalque
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Thanks, as if it was completely invisible to the system… the next step is to look at ioreg output, if there are some signs of the Titan X. However, I can’t ask this from your because it contains some private and personal information. Any chance to try another Nvidia card?

How does your RX 480 play with the script and Devil Box?

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frankpit
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I moved back over to try and get the Razer Core + AMD RX 480 working.

As I showed before, the system detects it (usually only after hot-plugging it)--but doesn't show anything on the external display.

I connected a USB device to the t3 port beside the one connected to the Razer Core and when I rebooted, the external display turned on for a second but then the MBP crashed on boot--I had to disconnect the egpu to get it to boot.

At a loss. 🙁

2 egpu set ups that "should" work and neither is getting external gpu powered  display or processing. Ugh.

I am grateful for your great input so far ! Thank you.

 

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goalque
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I would count more on Devil Box than Razer Core, because appleinsider tested Devil with the same Radeon Pro 460 equipped 15” MBP. Or... Apple has put some barriers along with macOS updates.

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adrielg
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Hi joined the forum today searching for a solution to the same problem frankpit reported. 

I got the Devil Box yesterday after reading the Appleinsider article and have the same problem "No external GPU detected" , I tried 2 cards (GTX 980t1 and GTX 950) on macos Sierra 10.12.2 but no luck.

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I'm also having the same issue with a newly purchased Devil Box. I know the card (EVGA 980ti) is not the culprit as it runs with my Akitio Thunder2 setup just fine.

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So I've been able to get both the (Devil Box + ASUS 980ti) and (Razer Core + TITAN X) operational under Windows 10 (after wrestling with error 12 on both).

@imcalledandy, so under MacOS should be no issue with power.

@goalque, how would I approach troubleshooting what is happening with the script?  After 30 seconds, I get this:

frankp$ sudo ./automate-eGPU.sh

Thunderbolt device is connected, but no external GPUs detected.

Thoughts?

 

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goalque
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@frankpit: if the command "ioreg -l | grep de10" doesn’t output anything, your Nvidia card is completely invisible to macOS.

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Add me to the list of Devil Box owners with the no GPU detected problem. I'm using a Sapphire RX 460 which I would have hoped wouldn't have any issues.

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I never used AMG cards. Not even back in the AGP age (used a Riva TNT2).

My 2 cents on nVIDIA.

Use good quality brands. Like EVGA, GYGABYTE, MSI. The chipset should be the same, they should not push the limits on their builds, the drivers will work. There is another thing to take in consideration beside drivers. The way it was built. Airflow. Heating. Noise. The way it will fit in your box. The connectors (power and monitor output). I switched from a EVGA to an MSI because the EVGA had only one Display port and the HDMI 2.0 lowered the refresh rate to 30HZ to one of my 4k monitors. Now with the MSI I have a slight decrease in benchmarks (not noticeable while playing) but the power connectors are way in the back so I can close the box. It also provides 3 Display ports. 

Go for the high end GPU builders and more importantly, choose the layout that you need (size, connectors, fans, etc)

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NCPFMP
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I have been trying with an Inno3D 980ti and nMP No luck -

 

I made it work flawlessly with a Inno3D GTX 980 TI iChill X3. I missed two important steps before getting there. Che k my poste here:
https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/automate-egpu-sh-is-reborn-with-amd-polaris-fiji-support-for-macos/paged/3/#post-2160

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